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Your "Fix" didn't fix anything at all, Battlegrounds still BROKEN

  • Feanor
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    @Tyvarra

    Agreed. I just wouldn't call them lovely people. ;)
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Edited by [Deleted User] on May 31, 2017 8:21AM
  • sadownik
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    For me it does seem to work better, not every time but i do queue only solo.
  • Mojomonkeyman
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Solo queuing worked fine for me yesterday, there was some waiting time, but at most around 5 minutes. Some matches were almost instant. I didn't haven't Hammer the queue button which my index finger was very grateful for.

    What's still not good is the team distribution, lopsided matches 4v2v2 or 1v2v3 is just not a whole lot of fun. CTF and Domination are quite boring in the current state too. Overall I see improvements, but ofc I didn't try joining with a premade group.

    @Mojomonkeyman

    Was the char Mojo yesterday yours? If so, well played!

    Hey, yeah I played yesterday with Little Mojo, my magWard. Think we had 1-2 matches against and with each other.
    Koma Grey, Chocolate Thunder, Little Mojo, Dagoth Mojo & Mojomancy
  • Prive
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    Thanks, everyone. We're actively looking into all your reports now. Stand by for further updates...

    Don't worry everyone. This is only live cycle 2. Plenty of time to still fix stuff.

    @AlfonsoV [HODOR}

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    *** C Stam Templar, khajit
    Alfonso V Mag Templar, high elf
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    Gr'ethe StamDK, redguard
    Luna L Mag Sorc, high elf
    Shark Ira Stam Sorc, redguard
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  • Sophieous
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    EU | PC

    Sophious - AD Templar (The one and only true Queen)
    Not Sophious - AD Warden
    Mayorz DK Slave - DC Templar
    May is my bae - DC Magblade
    Galabriem - DC Sorc
    Queen Sophie - DC Stamblade
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Ok I actually have my whole trial team online atm......full group of 12 people..you know to play 4v4v4....for some lulz.

    Oh wait it still cannot form a match, really don't get this, even the likes of EA and Treyarch have never ever had this grief.

    This is actually a complete shambles.

    I think it's about time zos you install a separate network for testing, why you honestly think it's good practice to test on an inhouse network is stupid. All you need is a separate line to be installed. The loss of just 100 subbers would outweigh the cost of this each year. I truly hope no one at ZOS get's paid a bonus, Other than Soundmaster, he is the only guy that actually does superb work.
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  • Zyrudin
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    Can you be a bit more specific, please? What still appears to be broken?

    The queing process gets stuck in "Forming Group" After that you get just que´d again or the "one person declined"-message pops up. First BG worked, after that it doesn't work anymore for my group or alone. Tested it with 4, 2 and alone.

    @Anne_Firehawk @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Note that this is true not just for Battle Grounds, but even Random Dungeons queuing.
    At least it has been for me and a friend.

    Exact same behavior as described.
  • Insandros
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    Koensol wrote: »

    @Insandros No, in this case people don't need to be specific. The devs need to just start up a damn pc and try it for themselves. They should already know this stuff.



    @Koensol

    You know man, with that attitude of yours, i'm just being laughing now and happy that the kind of you are being bugged with what they like most in the game, and i mean laughing hard. :) I guess that'S why i'm not working with customer services, your kind of customer would be the ones i would tell to f.. o... and ban and tell you you can go cry now for a good reasons :) But hey, ZoS staff are way better then i could ever be at being Mods here and customer services/support.... my point here is, the Devs are way better at their stuff thatn 99% of you guys here insulting them for what they do or not with the few or non existing game develeppment experiences you guys have.
    Edited by Insandros on May 31, 2017 10:31AM
  • Apherius
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    Oh ! you are english ,you didn't know what happend on the french side ?

    1- as we can see , the battelground is still broken for everybody
    2- they deleted all the french traduction for Morrowind with this patch

    7 hours for don't fix anything and delete traduction , OP
  • Artemiisia
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    this morning I have gotten some more BGs under tha belt, the main bug today is it says:

    Forming Group, and after 5mins it gets cancelled, this can happen like 2-3 times before actually getting inside
  • Wren622
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    Zyrudin wrote: »
    Can you be a bit more specific, please? What still appears to be broken?

    The queing process gets stuck in "Forming Group" After that you get just que´d again or the "one person declined"-message pops up. First BG worked, after that it doesn't work anymore for my group or alone. Tested it with 4, 2 and alone.

    @Anne_Firehawk @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Note that this is true not just for Battle Grounds, but even Random Dungeons queuing.
    At least it has been for me and a friend.

    Exact same behavior as described.

    I, too, experience this on PS4 when dungeon (specific/random) queuing.
    Edited by Wren622 on May 31, 2017 11:32AM
  • Koensol
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    Insandros wrote: »
    Koensol wrote: »

    @Insandros No, in this case people don't need to be specific. The devs need to just start up a damn pc and try it for themselves. They should already know this stuff.



    @Koensol

    You know man, with that attitude of yours, i'm just being laughing now and happy that the kind of you are being bugged with what they like most in the game, and i mean laughing hard. :) I guess that'S why i'm not working with customer services, your kind of customer would be the ones i would tell to f.. o... and ban and tell you you can go cry now for a good reasons :) But hey, ZoS staff are way better then i could ever be at being Mods here and customer services/support.... my point here is, the Devs are way better at their stuff thatn 99% of you guys here insulting them for what they do or not with the few or non existing game develeppment experiences you guys have.
    To be honest, I was sitting on the toilet when reading this post and had the biggest trouble of keeping myself from laughing really hard. Thank you for that.
  • souravami
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    Insandros wrote: »
    Koensol wrote: »

    @Insandros No, in this case people don't need to be specific. The devs need to just start up a damn pc and try it for themselves. They should already know this stuff.



    @Koensol

    You know man, with that attitude of yours, i'm just being laughing now and happy that the kind of you are being bugged with what they like most in the game, and i mean laughing hard. :) I guess that'S why i'm not working with customer services, your kind of customer would be the ones i would tell to f.. o... and ban and tell you you can go cry now for a good reasons :) But hey, ZoS staff are way better then i could ever be at being Mods here and customer services/support.... my point here is, the Devs are way better at their stuff thatn 99% of you guys here insulting them for what they do or not with the few or non existing game develeppment experiences you guys have.

    Oh look a White Knight. Keep playing devil's advocate dude, maybe they'll toss you a 750 crowns pack for your efforts.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
    ZOS_GinaBruno
    Community Manager
    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.
    Gina Bruno
    Senior Creator Engagement Manager
    Dev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter | My Twitter
    Staff Post
  • Cinbri
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    I rate fix for Engine Guardian visual effect higher than fix for Battlegrounds :trollface:
  • Darlon
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    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.


    Ugh, you're going to do maintenance on a day that is a holiday in large parts of Europe ? (Next Monday) @ZOS_GinaBruno ... just great.....
  • MrFish024
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    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    Thanks for the detailed update, now can we get one for Xbox trials. It's only been 98 days since they were reported broken...
  • McCracken79
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    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    Gina, may I ask why you wait until the Patchday, Monday's to push out fixes? I am assuming that you have the fix for it now or are close to finishing it. I understand why it's done on the console but for the PC there are no restrictions. This means that we will probably not to be able to group up for Battlegrounds this weekend again and have to wait until Monday's patch, also assuming it will come out next Monday.

    Every other MMO I played pushed fixes out when they had the fix ready, whether it was a hotfix or they had to bring down the servers. Sure people complained but at least things were corrected relatively quick.
  • Avran_Sylt
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    @DRXHarbinger

    I think group size is at max 4 for Battlegrounds Queue. So people can't easily cheese rewards/score. It'd be cool if you could later on queue for non-scoreboard/non-rewards battlegrounds matches with a max group size of 12, but that won't happen anytime soon.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Yay! a more technical and detailed response to the issue! And edge-cases are a pain in the arse for sure and are annoying to track down, always assume that the worst case scenario will happen, even if it makes it more of a pain in the ass to fully implement. Hope you're able to easily filter through the negativity to see the core of the complaints that most people have, and I'd also copy/paste your comment into a spoiler under the pinned bug report thread as well. (if you've not considered the idea already).
  • Zyrudin
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    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Thank you for the update.

    I reiterate that this does not happen solely with Battleground queues, but also with the other dungeon finder.
    Both the "eternal" forming group and the endless looping "one person declined".

    Given that there will be a fix for BG finder, it might be worth it to look at the Dungeon finder as well.

    Thanks and regards!
  • Feanor
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    I just love how NA gets the maintenance on Tuesday due to Monday being a holiday and EU gets it on Monday despite this day being a holiday at least in all of Germany.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
    ZOS_GinaBruno
    Community Manager
    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    Gina, may I ask why you wait until the Patchday, Monday's to push out fixes? I am assuming that you have the fix for it now or are close to finishing it. I understand why it's done on the console but for the PC there are no restrictions. This means that we will probably not to be able to group up for Battlegrounds this weekend again and have to wait until Monday's patch, also assuming it will come out next Monday.

    Every other MMO I played pushed fixes out when they had the fix ready, whether it was a hotfix or they had to bring down the servers. Sure people complained but at least things were corrected relatively quick.
    In this case, it's the type of fix this requires. We're only able to hotfix certain things, but more complicated fixes (things that touch the actual code, for instance) need to go into a full patch. Full patches take time to build, test, etc. and also require downtime. Even if we were going to try and push the patch out early, it's something that can't be done immediately. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. As mentioned in the post, relogging if you're stuck in the queue is a temporary workaround.

    Zyrudin wrote: »
    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Thank you for the update.

    I reiterate that this does not happen solely with Battleground queues, but also with the other dungeon finder.
    Both the "eternal" forming group and the endless looping "one person declined".

    Given that there will be a fix for BG finder, it might be worth it to look at the Dungeon finder as well.

    Thanks and regards!
    Yep, we're aware this is affecting dungeons as well. The fix we have going into next week's patch will address Battlegrounds and Dungeon queuing.
    Gina Bruno
    Senior Creator Engagement Manager
    Dev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter | My Twitter
    Staff Post
  • Sigtric
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    Feanor wrote: »
    I just love how NA gets the maintenance on Tuesday due to Monday being a holiday and EU gets it on Monday despite this day being a holiday at least in all of Germany.

    This game is not made in Germany, but rather in the USA. Yes, it's unfortunate, but it's the way of things.

    Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
    Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |

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  • McCracken79
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    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    Gina, may I ask why you wait until the Patchday, Monday's to push out fixes? I am assuming that you have the fix for it now or are close to finishing it. I understand why it's done on the console but for the PC there are no restrictions. This means that we will probably not to be able to group up for Battlegrounds this weekend again and have to wait until Monday's patch, also assuming it will come out next Monday.

    Every other MMO I played pushed fixes out when they had the fix ready, whether it was a hotfix or they had to bring down the servers. Sure people complained but at least things were corrected relatively quick.
    In this case, it's the type of fix this requires. We're only able to hotfix certain things, but more complicated fixes (things that touch the actual code, for instance) need to go into a full patch. Full patches take time to build, test, etc. and also require downtime. Even if we were going to try and push the patch out early, it's something that can't be done immediately. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. As mentioned in the post, relogging if you're stuck in the queue is a temporary workaround.

    Zyrudin wrote: »
    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Thank you for the update.

    I reiterate that this does not happen solely with Battleground queues, but also with the other dungeon finder.
    Both the "eternal" forming group and the endless looping "one person declined".

    Given that there will be a fix for BG finder, it might be worth it to look at the Dungeon finder as well.

    Thanks and regards!
    Yep, we're aware this is affecting dungeons as well. The fix we have going into next week's patch will address Battlegrounds and Dungeon queuing.

    Thank you for explaining.
  • Darlon
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    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    Gina, may I ask why you wait until the Patchday, Monday's to push out fixes? I am assuming that you have the fix for it now or are close to finishing it. I understand why it's done on the console but for the PC there are no restrictions. This means that we will probably not to be able to group up for Battlegrounds this weekend again and have to wait until Monday's patch, also assuming it will come out next Monday.

    Every other MMO I played pushed fixes out when they had the fix ready, whether it was a hotfix or they had to bring down the servers. Sure people complained but at least things were corrected relatively quick.
    In this case, it's the type of fix this requires. We're only able to hotfix certain things, but more complicated fixes (things that touch the actual code, for instance) need to go into a full patch. Full patches take time to build, test, etc. and also require downtime. Even if we were going to try and push the patch out early, it's something that can't be done immediately. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. As mentioned in the post, relogging if you're stuck in the queue is a temporary workaround.

    Zyrudin wrote: »
    Hey guys,

    While yesterday’s patch did fix many of the issues with the queuing system, there is at least one issue that wasn’t completely resolved. This is preventing you from joining a Battleground, and makes it so you wait forever in the queue without ever being added to a Battleground. This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state. You will also sometimes see an endless “Forming Group” message when this happens. Until we’re able to fix this issue in Monday’s patch, our recommendation is to relog if you end up waiting in a queue for more than 5 minutes, then re-join the queue. Based on the nature of this fix, we’re not able to do a hotfix – it must go into a full patch.

    Yesterday when we asked you to describe the exact problem you were encountering, we wanted to be sure we had fixed all the other outstanding issues (such as needing to press “Join Queue” multiple times). We do test fixes, but sometimes see different behavior on our test servers than on a live server that has many more active players. We appreciate the help we received from everyone that responded; it clarified what was, and was not, working with Battlegrounds.

    We understand it's frustrating to encounter issues such as these while entering our new Battlegrounds, and we’re doing everything we can to address the issue as quickly as we can.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Thank you for the update.

    I reiterate that this does not happen solely with Battleground queues, but also with the other dungeon finder.
    Both the "eternal" forming group and the endless looping "one person declined".

    Given that there will be a fix for BG finder, it might be worth it to look at the Dungeon finder as well.

    Thanks and regards!
    Yep, we're aware this is affecting dungeons as well. The fix we have going into next week's patch will address Battlegrounds and Dungeon queuing.

    If the fix can wait until Monday, it can wait till Tuesday so the maintenance is not on a holiday in Europe...

  • IwakuraLain42
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    I reiterate that this does not happen solely with Battleground queues, but also with the other dungeon finder.
    Both the "eternal
    Yep, we're aware this is affecting dungeons as well. The fix we have going into next week's patch will address Battlegrounds and Dungeon queuing.

    Considering that next Tuesday is the general release of Morrowind for Console will this patch be included in that release and if not can we get at least a fast update this time ?
    Darlon wrote: »
    If the fix can wait until Monday, it can wait till Tuesday so the maintenance is not on a holiday in Europe...

    Next Tuesday is the Morrowind release for Consoles, they will be rather busy that day ....
  • Sabbathius
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    This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state.

    Ummm...shouldn't such cases be pretty much the first thing you test when adding a battleground system? Or am I just crazy? Because this stuff, like joining a BG that is almost over and being stuck, or more than 4 players being allowed in, etc., just sounds like you guys do absolutely no QA testing at all. How could you miss it?

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    Sabbathius wrote: »
    This is caused by a intermittent edge case where you are attempting to join a Battleground just as it’s ending, causing you to get stuck in a waiting state.
    Ummm...shouldn't such cases be pretty much the first thing you test when adding a battleground system? Or am I just crazy? Because this stuff, like joining a BG that is almost over and being stuck, or more than 4 players being allowed in, etc., just sounds like you guys do absolutely no QA testing at all. How could you miss it?
    I was also thinking that nobody should ever be joining a battleground in-progress. People want to play battlegrounds in full, not ones that are partially complete already.
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  • Avran_Sylt
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    @Enodoc

    Issue Being that now if players leave early on in the match, there is no possibility that a player can fill that empty spot. So for pugs that means the other players just got shafted. And the other teams are less likely to finish the match as quickly. Wonder if they would allow a setting where the player can choose to only join fresh matches (but also be warned that queue times would be longer).

    Seeing as the punishment for leaving early is only a temporary time ban, for many players they'd do it.
    Edited by Avran_Sylt on May 31, 2017 4:46PM
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