Your "Fix" didn't fix anything at all, Battlegrounds still BROKEN

Darkdex

Oh May God....
This is hilarious, sad, and ridiculous...

Xbox One player here, so I'm part of the player base that CANNOT play the content we paid for (vMoL), seriously ZOS, do you expect I'm going to PAY for another piece of broken content?

I can't understand why the game is soooo broken, or how you run your "internal tests" that you ALWAYS mention in the EsoLive broadcasts.

@ZOS_GinaBruno will this bug ALSO come to console?

You really need to provide a HIGH Quality product, or at least a 'decent' one, because if you don't, you are going to lose half (or even more) of your console player base when TERA get released.

hamburgerler76

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks, everyone. We're actively looking into all your reports now. Stand by for further updates...

All I really wanna know is does this mean console will not get fix on June 6th and now we will have to wait another month or 2 for the incrimental patch??

McCracken79

grim_tactics wrote: »

McCracken79 wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

Just some thought ...

In GW2 you can't change map while in queue, because according to the devs there, it would cause problems, if queue pops during loading screens. In ESO there is no such restriction. I'm aware that this is a completely different game with different technical background, and maybe loading screens are handeled just fine, but what if not? Anyone from the devs thought about this?

This does make sense. People do different things while in a queue and I know I have missed queues to Cyrodiil many many times because I missed the pop up to accept either because I was doing something else or I didn't get the screen notification at all. I think perhaps they should remove the option to accept/decline. If you queue for something as soon as its ready just load them into wherever. I am also going to add if this ever went live that if you do queue for anything don't think you'll have time for a dungeon or trial and then get mad that you got pulled out. A work around would be if you travel anywhere while in queue it would kick you.

What about when you are 126th in queue for Cyrodiil?

I'm not going to stay in one area for that long while I wait.

Lol, If I queued up for Cyrodiil and there was 125 people in front of me I would just turn the game off. But I do hear you, its a crap shoot.

LMar

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks, everyone. We're actively looking into all your reports now. Stand by for further updates...

Some further info:

-Queue pops quite quickly, sometimes "someone declined" still comes up but not as often as before
-Sometimes grouping tool says "Forming group" but it stays there for a while and then says "someone declined"
-Sometimes team is not full. Often have 2 or 3 people in while other teams have a full complement, or vice versa
-Not sure if just RNG but other before today I got various maps, today only Ruins of [Insert long name of daedric temple to Mehrunes". Not sure if related to bugs or not.

It is definitely more easy to get in than before today however and while I kept playing on the same map I got "Hold the Flag" and "Deathmatch" modes

PS: This is in PC/EU

TragedyOA

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Can you be a bit more specific, please? What still appears to be broken?

The queing process gets stuck in "Forming Group"

Same in random dungeon finder!

Dark_Aether

Nothing will ever get fixed properly in this game because their mentality is not to go back and clean up what's broken in the codes, but adding bandage fixes with new codes. Most things that have been broken since release are still there, which is why the game runs like s**t.

Magdalina

It actually appears to be working significantly better for me now. Was able to get in 3 BGs in a row without button mashing or getting stuck in "someone declined" loop. Got "someone declined" once but that could be a legit decline, didn't go in the loop of despair.

Was queueing alone. I'm sure I'll run into more bugs later but that's already significantly better than before the patch.

Btw can we stop mindlessly bashing ZOS? They [snip] up royally with releasing something - one of the main somethings in fact - THAT broken, but simply complaining they should know what's wrong and insta fix it instead of constrictive feedback is not gonna help.

Oh and yeah. The numbers are still the same. 3v4v4, 2v3v4, 4v4v4. Seems random really.

Kalante

Zvorgin wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Can you be a bit more specific, please? What still appears to be broken?

Perhaps the Devs should simply login to their game and try to get into a battleground?

HOLY ****

DHale

Ok let us be specific... it doesn't work. At all.

Shanjijri

I was queuing solo, it worked. I had some "someone declined" or "acitivity no longer valid", but I entered BG often. Now, I'm trying to enter with my boyfriend (group of two players) and we have a lot of "someone declined".

EDIT: I entered a BG two minutes after we decided to solo queue. He had a loop of "someone declined".
I entered a Deathmatch. 2V2V2. Alright, at least, numbers are equal. After ten minutes of fighting, my teammate and I were unable to find our opponents and he "left the group". I don't know if he was kicked or if he left by himself. I find an opponent three seconds after his leaving but the BG closed because I was alone in the group.

zaria

ZunaRoath wrote: »

I'm having a similar problem:

I queue, I accept, I get stuck in "Forming Group". After that, a few more invites appear, I accept them, but same. Sometimes its stuck on Waiting for Player: 1, and then it says someone declined the queue invite, and goes back to queue. I was able to get into two battlegrounds, but after accepting many invites.

Same with dungeon finder, invite in guild for random normal, we was 3 missed one DD, decided to queue, game tried to form group 5 times, we had to leave group and reform, now as four players.
tried again, did not work but knew it was BC2, I ported in two other followed but last wanted to switch to other character, we cleared the first room and the coridor waiting for last to come in. suddenly group was disbanded for unknown reason.

NBrookus

Queued 4 times. Got in pretty much right away each time, each time it was a match type where the goal is to run really fast in a circle and avoid actually PvPing to get the most points.

Twice I was a replacement with only 2 other players on my team. Once we only had 3 to begin with and never got more. 4th time, we had 4, two dropped and we got to play 2v4v4.

All of these are issues reported on PTS and never addressed.

MisterBigglesworth

I think ZOS, as a little experiment, should see if they can just simply get a 1v1 battleground (not even a 1v1v1, too complicated) to function 100% of the time internally.
If working, expand from there. If not, then back to the drawing board.

Jerdeh

Well, as frustrated as I am, I hope that ZOS will fix this issue before the official release of Morrowind. I have only got in for like 5 times to battlegrounds since the early access release. It could probably help if ZOS would add separate matches for each category to the grouping tool. For example that people could directly try to queue to Deathmatch etc.

Leogon

Battlegrounds after today's "fix" = "Forming Group", "Someone declined", "Accept". You can get stuck in that loop for a while.

I paid to play Battlegrounds not Patience.

Lirkin

I'm getting the loading screen right now,

Alaztor91

I guess that ignoring all the problems with the dungeon finder for months and then using the same tool with a few tweaks for battlegrounds was not the brightest idea.

itsfatbass

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Can you be a bit more specific, please? What still appears to be broken?

1) When the ready check pops up and a member hits F for READY, the dungeon finder immediately recognizes it as DECLINE, and other group members who also had the ready check appear will instead have a message saying "Somebody declined the invite, you are placed at the front of the queue" and the ready check disappears. It then continues to loop popping up then disappearing saying the above message. Ready checks are being recognized as declines, and will result in a bug that forces you to camp out to be able to requeue again.

2) When all members are successfully able to say YES to being ready, all roles become checked and it activity finder says "Forming Group". 60 second wait results in nothing and instead the message "Somebody declined the invite, you were placed at the front" appears again.

3) There is still a "desync" bug in which all players get booted from the zone. I believe this has to do with the activity finder not getting to the "In progress" status BEFORE it ports you in automatically (for dungeons).

There are other bugs too but those are the main ones.

Cocorocho

People actually explaining what is not working... Cmon guys i believe they know exactly what is broken but can't find a solution. I don't really know anything about coding but maybe i can google and try to fix it since current staff can't fix it for months? @ZOS

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Alaztor91 wrote: »

I guess that ignoring all the problems with the dungeon finder for months and then using the same tool with a few tweaks for battlegrounds was not the brightest idea.

It is going to work this time! And if it doesn't we will just pretend we didn't know the dungeon finder was broke! What is that? Having problems with the dungeon finder? Let me add that to the known bugs list because we had no idea until you mentioned it!

Domander

can I have the option of pausing my sub for a few weeks while these things are fixed?

soll

battlegrounds still broken and doesn't work. waiting for 30-60 minutes at least for one and no result in prime time. It' little more chance to get a BG when it's no-prime time. Yes, notification that BG is ready pops up much often, but it gives no result in the end.

mess. shame. how many more hotfixes on the live server we re going to need to get one of the main feature of the update get to work?

BuggeX

the whole grouping tool, in the whole game, since the patch with the grouping tool, was and is still so horrible,
f2p Play games make it better.

after 2 years the groupfinder still is bugged af and doesnt work half the time.

and thats actually pathetic and sad that a Company that sells AAA titel, with 40€ dlc and monthly Sub cant get a *** grouping tool working once for all, if i want to Play solo i Play skyrim

grim_tactics

hamburgerler76 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks, everyone. We're actively looking into all your reports now. Stand by for further updates...

All I really wanna know is does this mean console will not get fix on June 6th and now we will have to wait another month or 2 for the incrimental patch??

I've asked them this with no response.

I feel like they won't have time to get the patch certified and console will be looking at the issues PC is having and then a patch to address all the bugs at least a month or two later.

Gonna be sad times on console.

ThyIronFist

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Can you be a bit more specific, please? What still appears to be broken?

Hmm, I don't know... the entire queue system maybe?!?!

Do you people even know or play your own game? What material was this game built on? Rotten wood and dried up mud from third world Argonian peasant villages in Black Marsh? In the past week I have been able to join 2 BGs and queued about a million times.

2 BGs.

2

TWO

One of my friends got quite pissed as well, 99 out of a 100 times you end up wasting your time queueing, with the queue getting stuck, reforming the queue... not being able to do a BG... and then, the ONE time it does actually work, you get ported into an unbalanced *** of a BG where one team has 4 players, the second team 2 players and the third team 2 players as well.

I mean wtf?

Mrs_Malaka wrote: »

omg.

OH. MY. GOD.

It just dawned on me.

They didn't do this early access thing as a nice gesture to those who pre-ordered the expansion.
They did it to get mass testers because the closed PTS wasn't giving enough feedback.
We're not lucky pre-order players; we are guinea pigs.

***.

Yep sadly that seems to be the case... I honestly don't know why I came back to this game and it's braindead people that work with it.

Darlgon

Skjoldur wrote: »

Mrs_Malaka wrote: »

omg.

OH. MY. GOD.

It just dawned on me.

They didn't do this early access thing as a nice gesture to those who pre-ordered the expansion.
They did it to get mass testers because the closed PTS wasn't giving enough feedback.
We're not lucky pre-order players; we are guinea pigs.

***.

a) I said so when they announced it and got bashed by fanboys and ppl that believe in Vivec.
b) Even if they had gotten the feedback: After 3 years of the same ***, namingly bugs and fundamental, system inherent performance issues, I don't think they have any good developers left... if they ever had some.

Dude. people been saying that since PCs launched ahead of the console release. PC never was the master race, just the master Beta testers for console.

Sophieous

So, how's the 'active' search going?

Up untill now (7 hours later), I can confirm, it's a bit easier to get in a BG solo, if u cancel queue and requeue but it seems to be completely broken for groups again. Same 'someone declined' loop over and over again.

Dungeon finder also broken, doesn't give u a group at all.

Darlgon

grim_tactics wrote: »

hamburgerler76 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks, everyone. We're actively looking into all your reports now. Stand by for further updates...

All I really wanna know is does this mean console will not get fix on June 6th and now we will have to wait another month or 2 for the incrimental patch??

I've asked them this with no response.

I feel like they won't have time to get the patch certified and console will be looking at the issues PC is having and then a patch to address all the bugs at least a month or two later.

Gonna be sad times on console.

The response the same, so why repeat it endlessly? It is something like:

"If it is a hotfix, we can fix it as soon as we identify it. If we have to patch it, the patch has to go thru the same certification process as the game did, so it will be as soon as Sony/MS/JohnHenry certifies the patch."

I have been reading that since the game rolled out onto consoles.

souravami

vMOL and vHRC for consoles is broken for 4 months now.
Dungeon que is broken for 2 years.
And you thought problem with Battleground que will be resolved after 2 maintenances? LOL.

Shad0wfire99

You think ZoS fixes stuff. lul