Share your latest idiotic stories with the people in the dungeon finder

Teridaxus

So...have to vent now by writing an angry thread and then going outside after this.
Random vet queue for the daily xp bonus, its veteran tempest island.
Everyone is atleast lvl 50 and i the tank move out.
All npcs die quickly and not a single team death ... yet.

Maormer are dying left and right and neither lighting wizard npcs or even a storm atronauch are dangerous to us.
We reach the last boss and then everything felt into pieces.
First the rather low cp dps get oneshooted by a charge attack, then the max cp dps gets charged to death. Boss is taunted by me and rarely charges us, maybe once in 30 seconds to wake up the dps from their routine. I try to revive people, but the boss charge interrupts me or a random tornado bumbs into me, cancelling the revive. The healer got the same problems when reviving them.
I slowly get annoyed by the dying dps and look at them and behold, neither the new guy or the "veteran" block or dodge. The healer is in the same health range
as them and died only once in 10 minutes. At some point one them yells at the healer for heals, but even the greatest templar healer can't heal oneshoots (and stupidty).
After around 20 deaths of both dpses each, i get kicked from the servers since morrowind killed most of the server hamsters.

I relog but the healer and max cp dps are gone. Just the low cp guy remains and smiles at me, i don't even want to ask what happened to the leavers.
I try to reinvite people and like the dps before, they die over and over again by ignoring all movements of the boss. Finally a solid warden healer with somewhat good dps joins.
The dps in the meantime, die and die over again. No amount of boss taunting can protect from a random charge which a single block can stop easily. When you finally manage to revive one of them in between boss charges and tornados, they choose the revive when the boss cast a huge red ground aoe, oneshooting them 1 second after their revive.
Finally the boss is slain by me and the warden healer and i just ask me, why do dps love the red grounds.

Doesn't the tutorial teach how to block and roll dodge? How can a cp 630 with monster helmet fail to use both?
Did we tanks with our taunting spoil them to much in boss fights where bosses lack aoe and random targetting attacks like all the previous bosses in said tempest dungeon?

Edit:
There are around 15 answers about the charge, i get it , i get it. I know the rest of the mechanics, i just assumed the charge if random against all people who are too far away, not that it targets the furthest away.
And i did try to talk the dps, no chance.

TheNuminous1

I have been queing for vet white gold tower and vet vaults of madness for three days in a row. I've come across many great player insane dps. Beautiful tanking and have completed it every time without much error. Decent communication and a willingness to share all the loots.

I've gotten all my best in slot healer gear over three days of mostly constant farming. Its been amazing and I Couldent be happier!!!!


Thank you to all the random I met that have shared such a fun experience and helped me to be the best healer I can!!!

Malamar1229

Well not quite the dungeon finder but I queued in the Battleground and got stuck with 1 partner who was a magicka sorc running two pets (matriarch and clannfear) using a bow

Teridaxus

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

I have been queing for vet white gold tower and vet vaults of madness for three days in a row. I've come across many great player insane dps. Beautiful tanking and have completed it every time without much error. Decent communication and a willingness to share all the loots.

I've gotten all my best in slot healer gear over three days of mostly constant farming. Its been amazing and I Couldent be happier!!!!


Thank you to all the random I met that have shared such a fun experience and helped me to be the best healer I can!!!

How dare you to come into this thread of frustation and anger with your happiness. May all your loot be prosperous and training today.

QUEZ420

Nerf this wall of text wit the next incremental patch plz.

AhPook_Is_Here

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

So...have to vent now by writing an angry thread and then going outside after this.
Random vet queue for the daily xp bonus, its veteran tempest island.
Everyone is atleast lvl 50 and i the tank move out.
All npcs die quickly and not a single team death ... yet.

Maormer are dying left and right and neither lighting wizard npcs or even a storm atronauch are dangerous to us.
We reach the last boss and then everything felt into pieces.
First the rather low cp dps get oneshooted by a charge attack, then the max cp dps gets charged to death. Boss is taunted by me and rarely charges us, maybe once in 30 seconds to wake up the dps from their routine. I try to revive people, but the boss charge interrupts me or a random tornado bumbs into me, cancelling the revive. The healer got the same problems when reviving them.
I slowly get annoyed by the dying dps and look at them and behold, neither the new guy or the "veteran" block or dodge. The healer is in the same health range
as them and died only once in 10 minutes. At some point one them yells at the healer for heals, but even the greatest templar healer can't heal oneshoots (and stupidty).
After around 20 deaths of both dpses each, i get kicked from the servers since morrowind killed most of the server hamsters.

I relog but the healer and max cp dps are gone. Just the low cp guy remains and smiles at me, i don't even want to ask what happened to the leavers.
I try to reinvite people and like the dps before, they die over and over again by ignoring all movements of the boss. Finally a solid warden healer with somewhat good dps joins.
The dps in the meantime, die and die over again. No amount of boss taunting can protect from a random charge which a single block can stop easily. When you finally manage to revive one of them in between boss charges and tornados, they choose the revive when the boss cast a huge red ground aoe, oneshooting them 1 second after their revive.
Finally the boss is slain by me and the warden healer and i just ask me, why do dps love the red grounds.

Doesn't the tutorial teach how to block and roll dodge? How can a cp 630 with monster helmet fail to use both?
Did we tanks with our taunting spoil them to much in boss fights where bosses lack aoe and random targetting attacks like all the previous bosses in said tempest dungeon?

The charge is a random thing off your agro as a tank, same with vet spindle I, vet banished I and II, vet fungal II, and others. If you are a DK tank you can carry them with igneous, usually enough to keep them alive, blocking of course works if they are not ***, as to shields that every magicka class can get from light armor, stamina and RD it. I think for that particular charge you have to be far enough away from the boss to be charged, if you get up on her rear it doesn't happen, but the cyclones will be annoying with a stacked party.

TheNuminous1

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

I have been queing for vet white gold tower and vet vaults of madness for three days in a row. I've come across many great player insane dps. Beautiful tanking and have completed it every time without much error. Decent communication and a willingness to share all the loots.

I've gotten all my best in slot healer gear over three days of mostly constant farming. Its been amazing and I Couldent be happier!!!!


Thank you to all the random I met that have shared such a fun experience and helped me to be the best healer I can!!!

How dare you to come into this thread of frustation and anger with your happiness. May all your loot be prosperous and training today.

Lol we just see so much negativity! Its just like the news all the tragic stories get told but where is the joy and good news!

kylewwefan

Tempest island is a Major pain. Faceroll the whole dungeon til the last boss. The stupid one shots or tornado pushes you into red or prevents you from rolling out of red. It's a piece of cake to tank, give your squishy friends a break.

everyone else needs to be close enough so she won't charge at you and one shot and that puts you in danger zone for one shot AOE and tornados getting in the way.

You can't take her down the stairs anymore; she resets. Sometimes it works ok to DPS and healer stand on top of exit.

Magdalina

The Tempest last boss charge is NOT a random. She will charge the person furthest away from her. If everyone stands within like 10 m circle around her("safe" circle is roughly 1 m bigger than her expanding aoe), she won't charge anyone. But you need to either stand in that sweet 1 m just outside of her aoe or stand closer and then dodge out as she does the aoe(pay attention to whirlwinds as they can push you into it).

You can survive her charge with block+shield but it's actually pretty fast, hard and if she did it it means the "victim" failed already - they went where they shouldn't have, they were too far.

It's all about the mechanics

NordSwordnBoard

If all stay close to her and she doesn't charge at all.

Teridaxus

We tried to stay close too, the dps still died from her close range aoe while i and the healer roll away from it.

theamazingx

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

So...have to vent now by writing an angry thread and then going outside after this.
Random vet queue for the daily xp bonus, its veteran tempest island.
Everyone is atleast lvl 50 and i the tank move out.
All npcs die quickly and not a single team death ... yet.

Maormer are dying left and right and neither lighting wizard npcs or even a storm atronauch are dangerous to us.
We reach the last boss and then everything felt into pieces.
First the rather low cp dps get oneshooted by a charge attack, then the max cp dps gets charged to death. Boss is taunted by me and rarely charges us, maybe once in 30 seconds to wake up the dps from their routine. I try to revive people, but the boss charge interrupts me or a random tornado bumbs into me, cancelling the revive. The healer got the same problems when reviving them.
I slowly get annoyed by the dying dps and look at them and behold, neither the new guy or the "veteran" block or dodge. The healer is in the same health range
as them and died only once in 10 minutes. At some point one them yells at the healer for heals, but even the greatest templar healer can't heal oneshoots (and stupidty).
After around 20 deaths of both dpses each, i get kicked from the servers since morrowind killed most of the server hamsters.

I relog but the healer and max cp dps are gone. Just the low cp guy remains and smiles at me, i don't even want to ask what happened to the leavers.
I try to reinvite people and like the dps before, they die over and over again by ignoring all movements of the boss. Finally a solid warden healer with somewhat good dps joins.
The dps in the meantime, die and die over again. No amount of boss taunting can protect from a random charge which a single block can stop easily. When you finally manage to revive one of them in between boss charges and tornados, they choose the revive when the boss cast a huge red ground aoe, oneshooting them 1 second after their revive.
Finally the boss is slain by me and the warden healer and i just ask me, why do dps love the red grounds.

Doesn't the tutorial teach how to block and roll dodge? How can a cp 630 with monster helmet fail to use both?
Did we tanks with our taunting spoil them to much in boss fights where bosses lack aoe and random targetting attacks like all the previous bosses in said tempest dungeon?

Bit of a sidebar, but the easiest way to avoid the charge is to just not be far enough away for her to charge. That's how the mechanic works: you have to move away to get out of her aoe, but not just stay out of the way because you'll be punished with the charge, all the while navigating through whirlwinds. Blocking is an option but it'll be messier with her bouncing around like that. Of course, this is more than one simple mechanic, so it does demolish pugs.

I guess the one redeeming part about getting stuck in awful groups is learning that many vet bosses are quite soloable. Once in vICP, and twice in vTempest, I've ended up soloing the fight after the rest whipe 10 seconds in. This is even better if they've been blaming you for the wipes.

grim_tactics

Prob the most frequent idiotic things I run into are people who don't understand how to block or dodge roll.

Every time I think I'm with a good group, get to the last boss, and everyone has no idea what to do.

Tell them "The boss can 1 shot you guys unless you block or dodge roll the attack." What do they do - stand still and die.

Then you got the healers that do absolutely 0 attacks - they follow the group and stand still until they need to heal and that's it.

And of course - the "tanks" that queue up that aren't tanks at all. Those people are the ones that *** me off the most.

idk

I've rarely has issues with GF and often queue for dungeons in GF for the experience of playing with randoms.

I've often been with groups that had never cleared the vet dungeon we were in. I explain the fights and we move on.

Yes ,I've been with a small number of groups that could not clear the dungeon. Three to far. But I've never found it so much an issue that I needed to create a thread on the subject.

Magdalina

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

We tried to stay close too, the dps still died from her close range aoe while i and the healer roll away from it.

Avoiding her aoe is heaps easier than her charge, not to mention it's generally preferable to not have the boss jump all over randomly because most of people's dps comes from ground based dots these days usually. She kinda hunches over and slooooowly does that expanding aoe, giving you plenty of warning. Now when people consistently manage to fail that rolldodge 20/20 times in a row, yup there's an issue, seen it so many times I'd recommend standing closer to the outside of her aoe(unless melee) or better yet, JUST out of it, then you're safe/easy enough to get out. Whirlwinds can be a real pain there though, unavoidable cc pushing you into aoe is not very fun.

My last idiot pug story features vet WGT as a healer with a friend, first we got a tank who had 120 cp and 17k health...ran in and died to mobs while standing in my Springs(note that 2 other squishy dps did not)...
Me: Xxxxx, you aren't actually a tank, are you?
*Xxxxx runs into the big atro boss and manages to die within 5 seconds, after which we wipe because he hits too hard with no one to hold agro, plus that cc*
*Xxxxx stays silent*
My friend: The answer is nope
Me: Kick?
*Xxxxx stays silent, stubbornly pulling the atro again, causing another wipe*
*kicked*
5 mins later groupfinder finds us another tank, woot.

Me:Hi Yyyyy! Please tell me you're an actual tank with >20k health xD
*Yyyyy drops the group*
Me: ...well I suppose that answers my question.

Next groupfinder actually managed to find us a pretty good tank who knew the mechanics and whatnot and we were actually able to finish it on hm (not without a few wipes)

Teridaxus

Magdalina wrote: »

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

We tried to stay close too, the dps still died from her close range aoe while i and the healer roll away from it.

Avoiding her aoe is heaps easier than her charge, not to mention it's generally preferable to not have the boss jump all over randomly because most of people's dps comes from ground based dots these days usually. She kinda hunches over and slooooowly does that expanding aoe, giving you plenty of warning. Now when people consistently manage to fail that rolldodge 20/20 times in a row, yup there's an issue, seen it so many times I'd recommend standing closer to the outside of her aoe(unless melee) or better yet, JUST out of it, then you're safe/easy enough to get out. Whirlwinds can be a real pain there though, unavoidable cc pushing you into aoe is not very fun.

My last idiot pug story features vet WGT as a healer with a friend, first we got a tank who had 120 cp and 17k health...ran in and died to mobs while standing in my Springs(note that 2 other squishy dps did not)...
Me: Xxxxx, you aren't actually a tank, are you?
*Xxxxx runs into the big atro boss and manages to die within 5 seconds, after which we wipe because he hits too hard with no one to hold agro, plus that cc*
*Xxxxx stays silent*
My friend: The answer is nope
Me: Kick?
*Xxxxx stays silent, stubbornly pulling the atro again, causing another wipe*
*kicked*
5 mins later groupfinder finds us another tank, woot.

Me:Hi Yyyyy! Please tell me you're an actual tank with >20k health xD
*Yyyyy drops the group*
Me: ...well I suppose that answers my question.

Next groupfinder actually managed to find us a pretty good tank who knew the mechanics and whatnot and we were actually able to finish it on hm (not without a few wipes)

Well rather 10/10 of the time.
Tried to change tactics, but they could not hold their own both close range and far away, while both the first healer and the later second healer did it fine.

Lusty

haha, first time i met tempest island boss, same problem.
annoying tornados preventing you from reviving...

in the end we managed to do it, how?

On the stairs before the boss we were about to quit until one of us started spamming light attack with his staff...right into the boss, we didnt go in and the boss met us on the steps, 2 others hid behind the rocks and healed and dps'ed from there while tank and i kept him busy, it was so easy because those little hurricane things never left the room, they didnt go to the stairs where we were fighting, boss never moved either.

GuyNamedSean

So I'm in Fungal II on normal early in the morning doing my pledge and things seem like they're going well. Just a tad slow, but one of the DPS is only level 30 so I attributed it to that. We get to Gamyne Bandu (the first real boss) and she wipes us very quickly. I'm tanking and the healer is the first person she pins down, so I'm trying to hold her attention and the DPSs both ignore the healer is pinned. They both die quickly once her shadows are out.

We wipe (boss heavy attacks me too often to pick anyone up) and the healer and I immediately jump on mic so we can communicate. He and I are both CP200something, there's the DPS that's 30 not joining group chat, and the other DPS is CP450. We see that mister 450 is in chat, but don't hear anything back from him while trying to communicate, so we start the fight again. Healer and I know all the mechanics and are doing a fair job keeping Things #1 and #2 alive, but the 450 gets killed way fast. This leads to another wipe after picking him up and him dying again several times.

It's around this point that the healer and I notice that Mr 450 is a strange hybrid build. He has medium armour mixed with heavy, he's using exclusively dual wield (no idea what his back bar was, never saw him use it), and the class abilities he picked were the Clanfear, the Twilight (don't know what morph, he never used either of their abilities after summoning), and Hurricane. Considering all his armour was Imperial style, I'm assuming it was all crafted. He barely could deal damage and seemed to have no idea what any of the boss mechanics were.

Halfway through the dungeon that we've somehow dragged ourselves through, with this poor fool dying when fighting even the adds, the healer and I are complaining that this would be easier if the DPS were on mic. Me 450 plugs in and says he can hear everything we're saying, but has to remain quiet because he has a sleeping kid next to him.

We've been bagging on this dude for being a worst build of the year nominee up until this point and decided not to stop because he was amazingly bad at his role. We asked him if he recently switched to DPS and he said he's always played DPS and that the Sorc was his original character.

I don't understand how you can get to 450 and still have no idea how to play the game. The level 30 had a higher damage output and surviveability than him and was wearing what seemed like Ashen Grip (for certain, he was a fire-breathing stamblade) and probably Night's Silence. I'm still amazed that the healer and I could drag this guy through the dungeon.

Teridaxus

Yay vet direfrost keep with people who don't know how to break free...low dps of course too.

Epona222

Queued with a group of 3 wanting a healer. Got matched, clicked ready, ported into dungeon. Had about 10 seconds before spotting the "removing from area" countdown at the bottom of the screen. Found ourselves back at the Mournhold Undaunted Encampment. Activity not showing as In Progress and 15 minute cool-down on queuing again for all of us.

The most idiotic story about dungeon finder is that it does this sort of thing.

Silver_Strider

vSpindleclutch 2
Get lowish characters
259 Magsorc
179 Stamblade
119 Templar
I didn't think much of it, it's Spindleclutch after all, so we proceed...
...to wipe 3 times to Bloodspawn.
DPS is so low I take off all my usual tank stuff, throw on my Rattlecage (all I had at the time) and sure enough we clear.

I just observe the team after that.
Sorc is spamming mages wraith at full health, hard casting frags and light attacking.
Stamblade looked somewhat competent, using volley, trap beast, and flurry but I'm guessing his gear was are awful cause his damage wasn't that high either.
Templar.....lord help me. His idea of DPS was to rapid fire Shards and heavy resto attacks, with BoL thrown in as needed.

During Praxin, Sorc got the ring nearly every time and died every time. I get ring once and the templar gets hit as he was reviving the Sorc. We eventually cleart that.

Final boss, it took us literally an hour to kill. The stamblade died and DC'd never to return. Templar and Sorc must have been color blind because they stood in red, revived while it was red or got 1 shot by boss' charge. After several revives, gave up on both and proceeded to solo boss.

I was so upset afterwards, signed off to go play FFXIV, only to have terrible groups there too XD. I signed off for the night after everything. I had the biggest headache.

max_only

Lately group finder has been marking a low lvl dps as crown and/or coincidentally the player that dies the most OR who won't Rez the healer during a "break" in the fight OR the one who keeps reading the hard mode scroll after 5 wipes OR the one who bow light attacks and pops werewolf -- well you get the point. For some reason the weakest link keeps getting crown. I usually consider myself to be the weakest link with my off-meta crab and my strange race choices but geez some of these players aren't doing the bare minimum basics of rpg logic. (Wait for the healer, don't fear the adds out of the AOE, Rez the other dps, burn adds off healer, etc)

I think many of them heard that dungeons can be done with 4 dps and don't think they need anyone because they can sit and spin.... dungeons can be done with 4 dps sure, but not 4 terrible dps.

ColoursYouHave

I doubt people in the dungeon finder want to hear about my latest idiotic stories, TBH.

Khenarthi

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

Yay vet direfrost keep with people who don't know how to break free...low dps of course too.

I kid you not... that first week when Direfrost got buffed and started dropping a monster set, I spent 45 mins fighting Drodda with with a PUG. Not even Hard Mode, just basic Vet. The people were obviously new and had very low DPS (and so did I... I'm a tank) but I was so amazed at their willingness to go on and try to learn to dodge and break free, that it remains one of the most memorable fights for me.

lagrue

Here's my idiotic story.

People que up as DPS then get salty when they can't find a game because everybody and their dog is DPS, so they come and complain on the forums and facebook page that it's broken.

The end.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

i get kicked from the servers since morrowind killed most of the server hamsters.

Those poor hamsters :'(

As I've long said, good DPS are rare, anyone can be a semi decent tank/heal but the vast majority of DPS suck just like the ones in your group

azfardajiwang

MAGSORCS WHO HARDCASTS CRYSTAL BLAST. THEY MAKE ME CRINGE SO BADLY. I WOULD EXPECT A 400CP PLAYER TO ATLEAST KNOW SOME ROTATION. THANK GOD I WAS JUST FARMING A NORMAL DUNGEON DD:

ProfesseurFreder

I'm just glad to know that I'm not the only one who's bad at blocking and tumbling. PFFFFFFFT.

MehrunesFlagon

Magdalina wrote: »

The Tempest last boss charge is NOT a random. She will charge the person furthest away from her. If everyone stands within like 10 m circle around her("safe" circle is roughly 1 m bigger than her expanding aoe), she won't charge anyone. But you need to either stand in that sweet 1 m just outside of her aoe or stand closer and then dodge out as she does the aoe(pay attention to whirlwinds as they can push you into it).

You can survive her charge with block+shield but it's actually pretty fast, hard and if she did it it means the "victim" failed already - they went where they shouldn't have, they were too far.

It's all about the mechanics

Real issue is that it's not idiot proof.

CaptainBeerDude

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Well not quite the dungeon finder but I queued in the Battleground and got stuck with 1 partner who was a magicka sorc running two pets (matriarch and clannfear) using a bow

That. Is. AWESOME!

I am going to change the build on my main to mystic archer summoner sorc. All stat points into health.

supaskrub

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

So...have to vent now by writing an angry thread and then going outside after this.
Random vet queue for the daily xp bonus, its veteran tempest island.
Everyone is atleast lvl 50 and i the tank move out.
All npcs die quickly and not a single team death ... yet.

Maormer are dying left and right and neither lighting wizard npcs or even a storm atronauch are dangerous to us.
We reach the last boss and then everything felt into pieces.
First the rather low cp dps get oneshooted by a charge attack, then the max cp dps gets charged to death. Boss is taunted by me and rarely charges us, maybe once in 30 seconds to wake up the dps from their routine. I try to revive people, but the boss charge interrupts me or a random tornado bumbs into me, cancelling the revive. The healer got the same problems when reviving them.
I slowly get annoyed by the dying dps and look at them and behold, neither the new guy or the "veteran" block or dodge. The healer is in the same health range
as them and died only once in 10 minutes. At some point one them yells at the healer for heals, but even the greatest templar healer can't heal oneshoots (and stupidty).
After around 20 deaths of both dpses each, i get kicked from the servers since morrowind killed most of the server hamsters.

I relog but the healer and max cp dps are gone. Just the low cp guy remains and smiles at me, i don't even want to ask what happened to the leavers.
I try to reinvite people and like the dps before, they die over and over again by ignoring all movements of the boss. Finally a solid warden healer with somewhat good dps joins.
The dps in the meantime, die and die over again. No amount of boss taunting can protect from a random charge which a single block can stop easily. When you finally manage to revive one of them in between boss charges and tornados, they choose the revive when the boss cast a huge red ground aoe, oneshooting them 1 second after their revive.
Finally the boss is slain by me and the warden healer and i just ask me, why do dps love the red grounds.

Doesn't the tutorial teach how to block and roll dodge? How can a cp 630 with monster helmet fail to use both?
Did we tanks with our taunting spoil them to much in boss fights where bosses lack aoe and random targetting attacks like all the previous bosses in said tempest dungeon?

In-experience at this particular dungeon is the problem, there is one mechanic that you need to keep on mind and that is to stack relatively close to the boss as she will always charge the person furthest away, the very first time she drops her AOE use the outside edge of the red circle as your marker for where to stand, there should be no need to move from that spot for the duration of the fight, she will no longer charge and will stay in place... rinse her with dps and ultimates.. simple