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LarsS

We often often leave singel enemies alone, they give little AP to a guild group. Exceptions are those who are attacking members in our group or who are around were there is a battle going on or on the way to one.

Jawasa

Same here We might also la them for ult.

Nermy

Oh aye, we call tanky gits, 'Ulti builders'. We build our ultis on them, then when we're done - leave them be.

Alphaa

Another prime time EP emp. Seems like a lack of communication from the DC aswell as some nice EP timing allowing this to happen.

Where is the DC organisation our lord Prootch was talking about?

Nermy

Alphaa wrote: »

Another prime time EP emp. Seems like a lack of communication from the DC aswell as some nice EP timing allowing this to happen.

Where is the DC organisation our lord Prootch was talking about?

The DC organisation is to have one HUGE zerg hitting whatever is UA...

BohnT

Nermy wrote: »

Alphaa wrote: »

Another prime time EP emp. Seems like a lack of communication from the DC aswell as some nice EP timing allowing this to happen.

Where is the DC organisation our lord Prootch was talking about?

The DC organisation is to have one HUGE zerg hitting whatever is UA...

And to defend or take chal no matter what is lost in the meantime

Biro123

Nermy wrote: »

Alphaa wrote: »

Another prime time EP emp. Seems like a lack of communication from the DC aswell as some nice EP timing allowing this to happen.

Where is the DC organisation our lord Prootch was talking about?

The DC organisation is to have one HUGE zerg hitting whatever is UA...

This is true

BohnT wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Alphaa wrote: »

Another prime time EP emp. Seems like a lack of communication from the DC aswell as some nice EP timing allowing this to happen.

Where is the DC organisation our lord Prootch was talking about?

The DC organisation is to have one HUGE zerg hitting whatever is UA...

And to defend or take chal no matter what is lost in the meantime

This is also true.

Honestly, I'm convinced that apart from a very small number of small-medium sized guild-groups - DC are all soloers. Which means VERY limited ability to start a new siege, great at quickly rushing to where the nearest fight is, but also a lot of tunnel-vision (chalmania)..

Nermy

Biro123 wrote: »

Honestly, I'm convinced that apart from a very small number of small-medium sized guild-groups - DC are all soloers. Which means VERY limited ability to start a new siege, great at quickly rushing to where the nearest fight is, but also a lot of tunnel-vision (chalmania)..

Def: Chalmania - The urge or need to own or siege Chalman Keep.

LarsS

Well lets make a trade, dc sells dragonclaw to ep and buys chalman problem solved.

Nermy

LarsS wrote: »

Well lets make a trade, dc sells dragonclaw to ep and buys chalman problem solved.

Wouldn't be a fair swap. Chalman is prime property, on the Emp ring and near to Imperial City whereas Dragonclaw is way to the north and it's so cold up there. *shivers*

WillhelmBlack

Biro123 wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Alphaa wrote: »

Another prime time EP emp. Seems like a lack of communication from the DC aswell as some nice EP timing allowing this to happen.

Where is the DC organisation our lord Prootch was talking about?

The DC organisation is to have one HUGE zerg hitting whatever is UA...

This is true

BohnT wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Alphaa wrote: »

Another prime time EP emp. Seems like a lack of communication from the DC aswell as some nice EP timing allowing this to happen.

Where is the DC organisation our lord Prootch was talking about?

The DC organisation is to have one HUGE zerg hitting whatever is UA...

And to defend or take chal no matter what is lost in the meantime

This is also true.

Honestly, I'm convinced that apart from a very small number of small-medium sized guild-groups - DC are all soloers. Which means VERY limited ability to start a new siege, great at quickly rushing to where the nearest fight is, but also a lot of tunnel-vision (chalmania)..

You're right. There are two big DC PUG's, though they may aswell be a 24 man group of solo players.

We definitely don't have any ball groups.

We can pull a decent group (I don't mean a ball group) together maybe 2-3 times a week. When we do there's a massive difference to the map. Keeps flipping everywhere.
When theres just 2-3 of us we just float about, zerging and trying to pull PUG's out of zergs but that never works out great for us.

Tillalarrien

LarsS wrote: »

Well lets make a trade, dc sells dragonclaw to ep and buys chalman problem solved.

Hmm.. Ash. Id like Ash instead of Dragon. Then we can talk.

Junipus

It's a common psychological problem in DC. It's a simple case of following a familiar path based on the initial experiences within Cyrodiil.

DC upon entering Cyrodiil always head east within their safe zones, behaviour that becomes more ingrained and feels 'safer' as they become more accustomed to spending time doing PvP. Eventually it becomes an ingrained urge, like the salmon swimming upstream or being a fan of Nickelback, to always continue along the same familiar and comfortable pathway no matter what the obstacle, all the way to the bitter end.

If you took EP out of the picture, DC would carry on all the way to Akavir (for you lore buffs).

BigBadVolk

Tillalarrien wrote: »

LarsS wrote: »

Well lets make a trade, dc sells dragonclaw to ep and buys chalman problem solved.

Hmm.. Ash. Id like Ash instead of Dragon. Then we can talk.

Damn you fools, Brindle is our ancestral home keep

elfantasmo

Junipus wrote: »

It's a common psychological problem in DC. It's a simple case of following a familiar path based on the initial experiences within Cyrodiil.

DC upon entering Cyrodiil always head east within their safe zones, behaviour that becomes more ingrained and feels 'safer' as they become more accustomed to spending time doing PvP. Eventually it becomes an ingrained urge, like the salmon swimming upstream or being a fan of Nickelback, to always continue along the same familiar and comfortable pathway no matter what the obstacle, all the way to the bitter end.

If you took EP out of the picture, DC would carry on all the way to Akavir (for you lore buffs).

Please continue to push Chally when the map is yellow if you want to lose every campaign for another 12 months...

StereoLiz

It doesn't matter where DC push, nightcappers allways win.

Bam_Bam

The Pact don't do themselves any favours. Just now they lost Chal - the Pact ar on the walls on the mine side pew-pewing some lone unkillable DK...completely Oblivious to the 100000000000 DC at the outer maingate. The EP who managed to get inside decide the best way to stop them is..... to pew-pew with staves and bows and not a single oil down (except for my 2).

The massive pug zergs are going to kill that campaign off, soon. Sad times.

Biro123

StereoLiz wrote: »

It doesn't matter where DC push, nightcappers allways win.

All too true. Just had a couple of days off work. Going to bed with an all red/blue map and Waking up to an all yellow map is so disheartening..

And when we finally take Ales, less than 2 mins later EP are knocking on its door.. Ash still yellow, BRK still yellow... But nooo, blues n reds just gotta fight each other.

And its all because nobody cares about the campaign anymore since yellows always win dispite what the majority if the players do.

steven22

Maybe we should leave the campaign for a few months ? The nightcapping is not funny , also for an AD player like me .

Jawasa

Well maybe atleast the dc guilds could try get off chalman? Thursday was 3 hours of dc pugs and atleast 3 guilds stacking in chal and going for arrius when EP didnt push. Most of EP was down south.

Biro123

Jawasa wrote: »

Well maybe atleast the dc guilds could try get off chalman? Thursday was 3 hours of dc pugs and atleast 3 guilds stacking in chal and going for arrius when EP didnt push. Most of EP was down south.

I wish they would.
Wouldn't make any difference in who wins the campaign though.

elfantasmo

Biro123 wrote: »

Jawasa wrote: »

Well maybe atleast the dc guilds could try get off chalman? Thursday was 3 hours of dc pugs and atleast 3 guilds stacking in chal and going for arrius when EP didnt push. Most of EP was down south.

I wish they would.
Wouldn't make any difference in who wins the campaign though.

Cyrodil is dead. Long live taking scrolls to the slaughter fish.

Hexys

elfantasmo wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Jawasa wrote: »

Well maybe atleast the dc guilds could try get off chalman? Thursday was 3 hours of dc pugs and atleast 3 guilds stacking in chal and going for arrius when EP didnt push. Most of EP was down south.

I wish they would.
Wouldn't make any difference in who wins the campaign though.

Cyrodil is dead. Long live taking scrolls to the slaughter fish.

Blobsky

I dont even know any "good" DC guilds any more, most vanished... theres a 24-48 man megazerg in white tabards at prime time but they only brige zerg. DC pvp literally sucks

Morning there are 20 AD to each DC.
Evening the megazerg takes all action to the bridge whilst 15k health pugs snipe at chalman.

I might be a solo pvper, but even we need some map objective play from the megazergs to generate any interesting pvp XD.

If you run in a mega zerg please god play objecives rather than 24man "ganking (bombing)" between keep routes where solo players might get some PvP

WillhelmBlack

Blobsky wrote: »

I dont even know any "good" DC guilds any more, most vanished... theres a 24-48 man megazerg in white tabards at prime time but they only brige zerg. DC pvp literally sucks

Morning there are 20 AD to each DC.
Evening the megazerg takes all action to the bridge whilst 15k health pugs snipe at chalman.

I might be a solo pvper, but even we need some map objective play from the megazergs to generate any interesting pvp XD.

If you run in a mega zerg please god play objecives rather than 24man "ganking (bombing)" between keep routes where solo players might get some PvP

There's none Blobs. In the late evening it's up to either us (3-5 players), Gandalf or Tehonyx's crew to take a keep. Aamu and other solo players are left to defend, which they're pretty good at to be fair especially considering how many PvP guilds the other factions have. DC hasn't a single effective ball group. We have a PUG group called TDA and another called DA, that's about it.

I wouldn't even know what goes on with DC during the day, probably just a few solo players taking hours to take a keep back after the morning cap. It still baffles me how many DC went to fight for other factions, glory supporters or under the impression that they'll get more fights idk? You only need to press L to see who has lowest pop. Last night there was 3 EP and 4 AD small scale PvP guilds which all include faction hoppers plus they're enormous zergs, versus 3 bars of DC, pretty sad.

It's pretty safe to say the Alliance War on both servers has been dead for over a year, it's now Zenimax's job to sort it out.

Nermy

We regularly see DC guilds like Blackswords, Daggerfall Authority/Army, Hungry Wolves etc. but DC do have some real mega zergs. We tend to go elsewhere when we see them, no point fighting the.

Blobsky

Nermy wrote: »

We regularly see DC guilds like Blackswords, Daggerfall Authority/Army, Hungry Wolves etc. but DC do have some real mega zergs. We tend to go elsewhere when we see them, no point fighting the.

DA, last I heard, have lost most key leaders looking to make or involve in other guilds. Are either of those other 2 the white tabard mega zerg always bridge camping and pretending ti be small scale?

Nermy

Blobsky wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

We regularly see DC guilds like Blackswords, Daggerfall Authority/Army, Hungry Wolves etc. but DC do have some real mega zergs. We tend to go elsewhere when we see them, no point fighting the.

DA, last I heard, have lost most key leaders looking to make or involve in other guilds. Are either of those other 2 the white tabard mega zerg always bridge camping and pretending ti be small scale?

Dunno, don't look at the tabards... lol!

BohnT

Blobsky wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

We regularly see DC guilds like Blackswords, Daggerfall Authority/Army, Hungry Wolves etc. but DC do have some real mega zergs. We tend to go elsewhere when we see them, no point fighting the.

DA, last I heard, have lost most key leaders looking to make or involve in other guilds. Are either of those other 2 the white tabard mega zerg always bridge camping and pretending ti be small scale?

All these guilds are running with 20+. DC is the brother that tries to be an elitist by pretending to be filled with solo players but i can't remember when i saw the last DC walking around solo. Even the small-scaler group up with 6+ people turning almost any encounter into a Xv1 or Xv2 fight when you are actually small-scaling against them.

There is just a huge problem with Cyro atm and that is based on the low population cap which leads to 2-3 fights on the map where 90% of all players are which then again increases lag.

LarsS

As far as I see it all alliances have megazergs now and then.

The Daggerfall Authority TDA is a guild group, we just recruit players to our guildraid if they use ts, to look for interesting players to recruit.

Dont know who the white tabbard group is there is more than one DC guild with a white tabbards.

I havent seen Daggerfall Army for some time some left.