Then you died quite a bit, and aren't being honest about it. There's no way these spells keep you near max health and it's worse when the fight is solo against a boss, where there are no easy trash mobs to take out.vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »Killer' Blade morph of assassins blade. Heals 17% of max life if target dies within 2 seconds of being hit by it. Which is easy since it is an execute.
Marked target. And it's morphs heal. 40% of max health if the target dies while marked. One morph heals for 57% of max health.
These are the ones I used mostly for stam.
Its pathetic trying to complete quests (especially the Harborage nonsensical quests) as Nightblade whereas it is effing easy in my Sorc.
Glad to hear you found some fun in it. The class has its issues as you've pointed out, but I still love it over all others.Updated the post
Its pathetic trying to complete quests (especially the Harborage nonsensical quests) as Nightblade whereas it is effing easy in my Sorc.
For crying out loud, ZOS should have the decency to inform beginners that they should avoid this crap class and instead try leveling a sorc or templar.
30 hours of time is wasted in this garbage.
Not sure whether I should be sad for leveling this class or should be happy that I have not invested a whole lot more in this cesspit of a class
UPDATE
As others have mentioned looks it is a "learn to play" issue.
After playing and experiementing for some more time I have learned the following.
1) Unlike Mage/DK/Templar, Nightblade is not forgiving.
2) Mage/DK/Templar all have "oh-s*it" heal buttons whereas Nightblade has none
3) Along with 2), it becomes extemely important to do block, interrupt, dodge and avoid fire as Nightblade simply cannot soak up the damage.
Once I got the hang of it, NB becomes quite viable and fun...although my Mage is several times, powerful to kill mobs.
As others have mentioned looks it is a "learn to play" issue.
After playing and experiementing for some more time I have learned the following.
1) Unlike Mage/DK/Templar, Nightblade is not forgiving.
2) Mage/DK/Templar all have "oh-s*it" heal buttons whereas Nightblade has none
3) Along with 2), it becomes extemely important to do block, interrupt, dodge and avoid fire as Nightblade simply cannot soak up the damage.
Once I got the hang of it, NB becomes quite viable and fun...although my Mage is several times, powerful to kill mobs.[/b]
vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »
At launch I made a nb as well. And not being a great player I do recall times mostly in a fight with groups of mobs, I would have not made it, if I did not use the healing skills a nb has. And lots of nbs over look I think. Since that is really the only way I could see them having problems in questing content.
CaptainBeerDude wrote: »I vaguely remember that NB's used to be the big dogs in PvP. Go invisible or stealth. Hit someone unaware with a whole bunch of ani cancelled attacks and then t-bag the corpse.
So they probably got nerfed into Oblivion because that is hard to defend against. But ppl will always try to get the most powerful option for themselves, so then it moved onto shield stacking sorcs.
And before the NB meta, I thought the pinnacle was the immortal DK. Things will change over time, so just chill.
Emphasis mine, but yes, a magBlade >>> stamBlade in terms of survival.It isn't unplayable. Mine basically sucks the health out of everything like a blasted vampire. But he can run through publics solo. Started doing groups solo. World bosses. Things he couldn't do as stamina.
I made SEVERAL nightblades... BEFORE launch. I loved the class, but let's face it... it's MUCH more challenging now with WBs and some Dungeon and Delve Bosses. The experience with AT-LEVEL content in the beginning was very much on par, or better in some cases than other classes, but NB is the most nerfed class in the game and it's former glory has long since faded. Mostly because of whiners in PvP where, because of their skills, they excel at ganking.
So please, all of you glory day nightblades, spare the "I created nightblades at launch and had no trouble" stories. It's a COMPLETELY different game now... and sadly, not for the better.
I will agree that, like in the beginning, there is a learning curve to playing it and you will HAVE to fight tactically, unless you are a magblade and can capitalize on a healing staff. Stamblades are MUCH less forgiving and are about to become even MORE unforgiving with the bump in cost to Vigor.
So, are nightblades harder to play than any other class - yes. Are they impossible to play - no.
Since I started out playing nightblades, I learned dodging, blocking and combat movement, so when I actually started playing other classes, they seemed so much easier to me because I already knew the mechanics of combat, but I'll still love my nightblades... even if I don't play them much anymore.
MarEvayave wrote: »Assassination:
--Assassin's Blade (morphed to Impale). Killer's Blade (other morph) isn't an entirely bad idea, but since it requires the mob to die within 2 seconds, it may not always proc and give you the healing benefit from this. As such, I prefer Impale, as I can use it at range.
i do not disagree with every class being given a paragraph about its strengths and weaknesses.
Nb could be as simple as "this class is not intended to have top dps, top burst dps, significant stealth advantages and good healing all at once" and that might well eliminate some confusion.
i always saw this class as a best at stealth with string utility - a good solo class for instance. I never once looked at it and said "hey, on top of that, it should be a top performer in dps for the one percenters in group/trial"
let me ask, does anyone bashing the NB performance as "crap class" believe this also applies to stealth related content such as the TG/DB heists and sacraments? Do you prefer templars or Dks to go sneaking thru those heists over nightblades?
or are NB actually best at that content but you dont give a crap about that content?
do none of you find the nb stealth capabilities useful at all in PVP settings, not for direct in-combat death dealing destruction as for situational control as in avoiding or escaping? not at all? no?
or are thos elements there but you dont give a crap about those either?
By no means saying the NB is a perfect class, but like all classes it has its strengths and those seem to keep getting ingored if they dont fit into the one-percenter views of whats needed for a very small closet of content - namely end-game group-trial dps play.
PS: if you have problems completing main questline with Nb, or really any of the normal tier questlines, the issue is not with the Nb cbut more PEBKAC. i think my very first molag bal kill was with a Nb and my first vet-16 level was with a nb though my main/first character was not a nb.
DocFrost72 wrote: »
This is entirely a "l2p" issue, and truthfully, nightblades are not a dead class. They are bottom of the barrel (for a few reasons) but by no means unplayable. Please, do not spread misinformation.
Emphasis mine, but yes, a magBlade >>> stamBlade in terms of survival.
It's pretty pathetic that a stamBlade can only morph 5 of its class skills to stamina, while the rest drain magicka so fast, it makes it worthless.
I can imagine most stamBlade bars are not filled with a majority of the NB skill tree.
Emphasis mine, but yes, a magBlade >>> stamBlade in terms of survival.
It's pretty pathetic that a stamBlade can only morph 5 of its class skills to stamina, while the rest drain magicka so fast, it makes it worthless.
I can imagine most stamBlade bars are not filled with a majority of the NB skill tree.