Agreed on that... Stamblade needs to be at great range, or expect to be destroyed if the boss of a dungeon even glances at you, because all of your heals that depend on magicka are way too few and don't heal for much, and the stamina ones require dying things (which bosses don't do until there is no need for further heals). Otherwise, magicka build, and can be a decent, if not great tank, or a healer, or ranged DPS, etc... The class that has the most stamina morphs, is the one that needs the most stamina fixed, irony!
vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »
they put the one heal fits all stamina in the pvp tree. Vigor.
But again the op is talking about questing content. Not dungeons or trials.
Yeah, and lucky us! You saw the massive nerf coming for Vigor? /FD
I know, OP is talking about stuff that, well, my cat could probably get any character through without too much difficulty, so, I am on to the other points people are bringing up.
@vyndral13preub18_ESO
Well, back at launch my very first toon was a Nightblade and I don't recall ever having "actual difficultly" completing anything and Overland content now is far Easier than it was back then.
vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »
they put the one heal fits all stamina in the pvp tree. Vigor.
But again the op is talking about questing content. Not dungeons or trials.
Its pathetic trying to complete quests (especially the Harborage nonsensical quests) as Nightblade whereas it is effing easy in my Sorc.
For crying out loud, ZOS should have the decency to inform beginners that they should avoid this crap class and instead try leveling a sorc or templar.
30 hours of time is wasted in this garbage.
Not sure whether I should be sad for leveling this class or should be happy that I have not invested a whole lot more in this cesspit of a class
Yes, I say templar is the easiest class to start with because of the swipe AOE damage and heal, sorcerer is second because of pet, way easier if you use surge but that is not intuitive.@vyndral13preub18_ESO
Well, back at launch my very first toon was a Nightblade and I don't recall ever having "actual difficultly" completing anything and Overland content now is far Easier than it was back then.
SydneyGrey wrote: »I could do most fights with my stamina nightblade, but there were a couple of quest bosses I couldn't do, notably the Grand Sermonizer in the Dark Brotherhood questline. Granted, my character wasn't optimized at the time. I could probably do that fight with my NB now that I've worked on optimizing her armor more.
I love how some people are saying "L2P" when stamina NBs are famously weak when involved in a face-to-face PvE fight. I breezed through the Grand Sermonizer quest with my sorceror and dragonknight, but she kept killing my nightblade over and over and over. If my NB had had the Vigor skill, she would have stood a chance, but I shouldn't have to build up Alliance War skills just to get a healing spell that should be included with the NB skill set.
They need to give stamina NBs a decent heal.
Congrats. My point remains that stamina NBs are still weak in face-to-face PvE fights compared with other classes, and need a better heal ability.Daemons_Bane wrote: »I beat that Sermonizer so bad that his ancestors got sore.. Stamblade works just fine No gold upgrades, no BiS nonsense.. It's quite doable
Well, fights are scaled to your level, so .....DocFrost72 wrote: »My level 7 nightblade solos worldbosses. It's starter kit is second only to magicka templars. This entirely a player issue, and that is not a dig.
SydneyGrey wrote: »Congrats. My point remains that stamina NBs are still weak in face-to-face PvE fights compared with other classes, and need a better heal ability.
Maybe he is in fact trying to L2P - and I would recommend against trying to learn on a nightblade. That's just the facts. It's not a training wheels class.notimetocare wrote: »L2P
scorpiodog wrote: »Maybe he is in fact trying to L2P - and I would recommend against trying to learn on a nightblade. That's just the facts. It's not a training wheels class.
Its pathetic trying to complete quests (especially the Harborage nonsensical quests) as Nightblade whereas it is effing easy in my Sorc.
For crying out loud, ZOS should have the decency to inform beginners that they should avoid this crap class and instead try leveling a sorc or templar.
30 hours of time is wasted in this garbage.
Not sure whether I should be sad for leveling this class or should be happy that I have not invested a whole lot more in this cesspit of a class
TheShadowScout wrote: »Yeah, stamblades suck against anything they cannot gank into the ground. They have no "oh crap" skill like the dragonknights GDB, the templars heals or the sorcerors shields, their invisibility is often iffy and never allows them the fight reversal other classes can get from their emergency powers - more often then not, it doesn't even allow them to retreat (except in PvP against noobs).
Yeah, stamblades are severely deficient in the selfheal sector, especially against tough opponents, since mostly their heals come from killing weak mobs. If you PvP for it, vigor helps a lot... as do the right gear setups (I myself enjoy Baharas Curse, used right it can keep you alive through some hefty fights)