[VIDEO] STAMBLADE IS DEAD

zuto40

I've seent a lot of threads about how bad stamblade is and that we need help, and its true we're a dead class just watch this vid as proof that we're literally the worst class and cant do anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLclXIsCjfE

White wabbit

Looks op better nerf them even more

Runschei

I think my stamina nightblade is cute.

KingJ

How come I can't find pugs like this @zuto40 .As the top 89 NB I could use the help .

Biro123

I do think they are in a bad place. I used to fear getting ganked by them - but not anymore (unless there are two working together).

Micah_Bayer

Thank you for posting this. Goes to show.

zuto40

KingJ wrote: »

How come I can't find pugs like this @zuto40 .As the top 89 NB I could use the help .

Use cripple on a stamblade it's op, still waiting on that duel

LeifErickson

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not, but I think stamblades are probably one of the best solo classes in the game, maybe only behind magicka sorc, because of their ability to not have to win a fight to escape. Not to mention they have great burst and most builds tend to have defenses that scale well outnumbered. When I play my stamblade, I tend to have to try much harder than all of my other classes, but I can also accomplish more, things other classes could never do.

zuto40

LeifErickson wrote: »

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not, but I think stamblades are probably one of the best solo classes in the game, maybe only behind magicka sorc, because of their ability to not have to win a fight to escape. Not to mention they have great burst and most builds tend to have defenses that scale well outnumbered. When I play my stamblade, I tend to have to try much harder than all of my other classes, but I can also accomplish more, things other classes could never do.

It is sarcastic to a point, I'm tired of seeing threads and comments calling stamblade bad and in need of help so this weekend I recorded some fights to show these bad players it is possible to kick ass on a stamblade, and I agree we are one of the best solo classes since we don't need to win to live and that definitely helped me while recording these fights but we do have to try harder to do more then other classes, the very first fight you see another stamblade fail a gank on me while I'm wearing medium armor, and the last fight you see 2 stamblades get wiped because of their bad play within 5 seconds, I've personally never encountered a stamblade as good as me in open world and I think our very high skill cap has something to do with this and is a problem, we can say L2P all we want but if 99% of stamblades are trash there's a problem

SlowMetabolism

If anyone ever wants to boost their self esteem just go play in an AD dominated campaign where all the pugs are like Zuto just did

zuto40

SlowMetabolism wrote: »

If anyone ever wants to boost their self esteem just go play in an AD dominated campaign where all the pugs are like Zuto just did

It's lag in haddy, Zerg in skull, sit on my ass in azuras waiting for anyone to show up, or 1vX in scourge, I think the choice is obvious

Lexxypwns

@zuto40
don't lie, you just posted this because DB > incap

joe.smith21b14_ESO

zuto40 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not, but I think stamblades are probably one of the best solo classes in the game, maybe only behind magicka sorc, because of their ability to not have to win a fight to escape. Not to mention they have great burst and most builds tend to have defenses that scale well outnumbered. When I play my stamblade, I tend to have to try much harder than all of my other classes, but I can also accomplish more, things other classes could never do.

It is sarcastic to a point, I'm tired of seeing threads and comments calling stamblade bad and in need of help so this weekend I recorded some fights to show these bad players it is possible to kick ass on a stamblade, and I agree we are one of the best solo classes since we don't need to win to live and that definitely helped me while recording these fights but we do have to try harder to do more then other classes, the very first fight you see another stamblade fail a gank on me while I'm wearing medium armor, and the last fight you see 2 stamblades get wiped because of their bad play within 5 seconds, I've personally never encountered a stamblade as good as me in open world and I think our very high skill cap has something to do with this and is a problem, we can say L2P all we want but if 99% of stamblades are trash there's a problem

It's cause you play on console. Come to pc where the big boys play

Lexxypwns

joe.smith21b14_ESO wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not, but I think stamblades are probably one of the best solo classes in the game, maybe only behind magicka sorc, because of their ability to not have to win a fight to escape. Not to mention they have great burst and most builds tend to have defenses that scale well outnumbered. When I play my stamblade, I tend to have to try much harder than all of my other classes, but I can also accomplish more, things other classes could never do.

It is sarcastic to a point, I'm tired of seeing threads and comments calling stamblade bad and in need of help so this weekend I recorded some fights to show these bad players it is possible to kick ass on a stamblade, and I agree we are one of the best solo classes since we don't need to win to live and that definitely helped me while recording these fights but we do have to try harder to do more then other classes, the very first fight you see another stamblade fail a gank on me while I'm wearing medium armor, and the last fight you see 2 stamblades get wiped because of their bad play within 5 seconds, I've personally never encountered a stamblade as good as me in open world and I think our very high skill cap has something to do with this and is a problem, we can say L2P all we want but if 99% of stamblades are trash there's a problem

It's cause you play on console. Come to pc where the big boys play

Aren't you an Xv1 ganker? That's what passes for big boys?

Chair

Quite nice. (Nub for using dbos tho )

magictucktuck

Lexxypwns wrote: »

joe.smith21b14_ESO wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not, but I think stamblades are probably one of the best solo classes in the game, maybe only behind magicka sorc, because of their ability to not have to win a fight to escape. Not to mention they have great burst and most builds tend to have defenses that scale well outnumbered. When I play my stamblade, I tend to have to try much harder than all of my other classes, but I can also accomplish more, things other classes could never do.

It is sarcastic to a point, I'm tired of seeing threads and comments calling stamblade bad and in need of help so this weekend I recorded some fights to show these bad players it is possible to kick ass on a stamblade, and I agree we are one of the best solo classes since we don't need to win to live and that definitely helped me while recording these fights but we do have to try harder to do more then other classes, the very first fight you see another stamblade fail a gank on me while I'm wearing medium armor, and the last fight you see 2 stamblades get wiped because of their bad play within 5 seconds, I've personally never encountered a stamblade as good as me in open world and I think our very high skill cap has something to do with this and is a problem, we can say L2P all we want but if 99% of stamblades are trash there's a problem

It's cause you play on console. Come to pc where the big boys play

Aren't you an Xv1 ganker? That's what passes for big boys?

LMAO nice..

dotme

Wow - That was really impressive. My main is a stamblade and I get wrecked so much it's pathetic but I love playing it.

I wish I knew the secret to sustaining that kind of health in a fight. Great job.

KingJ

zuto40 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

How come I can't find pugs like this @zuto40 .As the top 89 NB I could use the help .

Use cripple on a stamblade it's op, still waiting on that duel

Lmao I got you buddy I just changed my build up so have to get used to it switched to DW.How do you kill templars without a execute?

zuto40

KingJ wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

How come I can't find pugs like this @zuto40 .As the top 89 NB I could use the help .

Use cripple on a stamblade it's op, still waiting on that duel

Lmao I got you buddy I just changed my build up so have to get used to it switched to DW.How do you kill templars without a execute?

i hit them with my cripple and use my rapid strikes to burst them down

Lexxypwns wrote: »

@zuto40
don't lie, you just posted this because DB > incap

ok you caught me

dotme wrote: »

Wow - That was really impressive. My main is a stamblade and I get wrecked so much it's pathetic but I love playing it.

I wish I knew the secret to sustaining that kind of health in a fight. Great job.

Cheat engine

Publius_Scipio

LeifErickson wrote: »

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not, but I think stamblades are probably one of the best solo classes in the game, maybe only behind magicka sorc, because of their ability to not have to win a fight to escape. Not to mention they have great burst and most builds tend to have defenses that scale well outnumbered. When I play my stamblade, I tend to have to try much harder than all of my other classes, but I can also accomplish more, things other classes could never do.

I agree. Stam NB is "ok" but I'd say only if you're pretty much running the meta. Magicaka templar and DK seem much easier to play overall in PvP. And to me magicka sorc prob has the best burst potential, especially against the squishy NB. On top of what can seem like endless shields once you memorize the rotation (which in ESO isn't that bad for any class).

Stam NB relies on really having to be tuned to the meta. Otherwise any other one is left without enough bite and too squishy to survive any sustained combat.

Edit: Does anyone want to argue that Miat, Mizaru, Reminexus, are not "meta"?

kadar

I mean, I agree that Stamina NB isn't in a terrible spot, but your video also doesn't really say anything about balance. Watching the players you're fighting, I mean... The archer in the second clip casts Expert Hunter 3 times in a row while you kill his friend...

Like you said, you're a talented NB. Facing scrubs, you're gonna wreck face no matter what you play. Play other talented or halfway skilled players on their respective classes and it's a different story. I don't mean to detract from your vid, I quite enjoyed it. Because you're capable of doing well on a sNB, does not really say much in terms of balance, imo.

Lexxypwns

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not, but I think stamblades are probably one of the best solo classes in the game, maybe only behind magicka sorc, because of their ability to not have to win a fight to escape. Not to mention they have great burst and most builds tend to have defenses that scale well outnumbered. When I play my stamblade, I tend to have to try much harder than all of my other classes, but I can also accomplish more, things other classes could never do.

I agree. Stam NB is "ok" but I'd say only if you're pretty much running the meta. Magicaka templar and DK seem much easier to play overall in PvP. And to me magicka sorc prob has the best burst potential, especially against the squishy NB. On top of what can seem like endless shields once you memorize the rotation (which in ESO isn't that bad for any class).

Stam NB relies on really having to be tuned to the meta. Otherwise any other one is left without enough bite and too squishy to survive any sustained combat.

Edit: Does anyone want to argue that Miat, Mizaru, Reminexus, are not "meta"?

Except this isn't nearly a meta Stamblade build. No damage procs, medium armor, etc.

Stamblade suffers from a lot of problems but as shown here and as attested to by @LeifErickson there is a point where, when played to its fullest potential it can still be devastating.

It's much like post 1.6 mDK, tons of obvious holes in the kit, but still able to be played at a devastating level by someone who is exceptionally skilled with the class.

zyk

What does this video have to do with NB balance? Any player of Zuto40's ability playing an optimized build is going to have similar results against those opponents.

Zuto's obviously a good player, but this is another shooting fish in a barrel video that says very little about competitive class balance.

Derra

Biro123 wrote: »

I do think they are in a bad place. I used to fear getting ganked by them - but not anymore (unless there are two working together).

They´re good outside of ganking though.

Hexys

Stamblade is the best 1vX, 99% just need to learn playing it defensively!

Nice video @zuto40 !

Publius_Scipio

NB is a very good support class in open world pvp in my opinion. All these crazy regen builds, perma block tanks, etc. When a bunch of DC are trying to take down one of these roided out juiceheads in Cyrodiil but are struggling.... I time a well executed fear, they lose control for a split second, and there is enough burst to finally take them down.

Edit: Of course no one takes the three seconds to type out a thank you to me.

Cathexis

I am making a stamblade just to prove how wrong this is.

DannyLV702

joe.smith21b14_ESO wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not, but I think stamblades are probably one of the best solo classes in the game, maybe only behind magicka sorc, because of their ability to not have to win a fight to escape. Not to mention they have great burst and most builds tend to have defenses that scale well outnumbered. When I play my stamblade, I tend to have to try much harder than all of my other classes, but I can also accomplish more, things other classes could never do.

It is sarcastic to a point, I'm tired of seeing threads and comments calling stamblade bad and in need of help so this weekend I recorded some fights to show these bad players it is possible to kick ass on a stamblade, and I agree we are one of the best solo classes since we don't need to win to live and that definitely helped me while recording these fights but we do have to try harder to do more then other classes, the very first fight you see another stamblade fail a gank on me while I'm wearing medium armor, and the last fight you see 2 stamblades get wiped because of their bad play within 5 seconds, I've personally never encountered a stamblade as good as me in open world and I think our very high skill cap has something to do with this and is a problem, we can say L2P all we want but if 99% of stamblades are trash there's a problem

It's cause you play on console. Come to pc where the big boys play

By big boys you mean cheaters amirite

FlyLionel

@zuto40 Am I the only one that saw a tank in EBON? and a mag sorc using lambris+elemental blockade (pve build) plus the high ranked one that used soul assault at like 5% health? I agree that stamina nightblades are good right now...but what stamina class is not? And out of all of them, which ones are the weakest? I'd like to see a stamina Nb go up against a good player who uses a magdk and tell me if everything seems right(fossalize/talons/dots/undodgeable meteors). Anyways it was a great video nonetheless, nice to see DW/2h throwback IC style.

@Publius_Scipio I would not call a nightblade a very good support class if that is all they can do, but at the same time it is true. Anti tanks with incap....but it seems everyone but a few of us do not run dawnbreaker. The best support classes are all the other classes, we have bomblade and anti tank burst aka just dps.

There are a few fixes they need to make for us to be on par with the rest of the classes in terms of class x class. Yes or no?

Edit: Battlegrounds coming, bring something to the table.

Subversus

@FlyLionel one of the best (dare say top 3 even, definitely the best nightblade) 1v1 player on PC EU, I'm Jeff Btw, is playing stamblade: He can count on one hand the players that he can't win against (not lose to, just end up in an endless fight). Stamblade is a very strong class, as @Hexys said.

zuto40

FlyLionel wrote: »

I'd like to see a stamina Nb go up against a good player who uses a magdk and tell me if everything seems right(fossalize/talons/dots/undodgeable meteors)

I would rather turn off my console then fight a good mdk in a 1vX situation, or any situation for that matter