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Nothing but ppl sitting around on their $200 mounts...

  • NolaArch
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    My money = my business

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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Balamoor wrote: »
    Is it my imagination guys, or are the people that are having the worst time in ESO, the same type of players that thought only the top 0.5% of players should have anything in other MMo's?


    You have someone whining about getting crap for posting his uber DPS after a fight
    The PAWS drones, posting yet another CC shame thread
    And the usual why can't this be more like <insert raid centric MMO here>

    In every instance these threads are getting overwhelming push back from the community, that if anything tells me that despite some balance and tech issues, ZoS has done something right, by developing a game the other 99% of the player base can enjoy.

    The pushback here isnt the Crown Crates. Its the way this s'wit is going about objecting to Crown Crates. Hes blaming people for spending their money and trying to make them out to be terrible people for actually using what they bought. On top of that hes acting like we're dealing with the dregs of society when it comes to ZOS. Its a very extreme and unpopular view even amongst PAWs players.
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  • Gargath
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    I really don't understand when people complain about other people for buying things from the crown store with their own well earned money and funding the longevity of the game.
    It's not really hard to understand that one's pleasure works against others immersion. As long as this is an mmo there will be people complaining on other people for x reasons, just because we must see each other in game and we always compare.
    I also don't like those animated crown crate mounts but do not complain on the people riding them. In my opinion these mounts do not fit to elder scrolls lore and they break my immersion too a bit. As a part of community though I have to move along and be over it.

    PC EU (PL): 14 characters. Member of Priests of Hircine Werewolf Guild. In ESO since 06.08.2015. CP930+.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Wish we could have one of these as a pet in game too

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  • Balamoor
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    Balamoor wrote: »
    Is it my imagination guys, or are the people that are having the worst time in ESO, the same type of players that thought only the top 0.5% of players should have anything in other MMo's?


    You have someone whining about getting crap for posting his uber DPS after a fight
    The PAWS drones, posting yet another CC shame thread
    And the usual why can't this be more like <insert raid centric MMO here>

    In every instance these threads are getting overwhelming push back from the community, that if anything tells me that despite some balance and tech issues, ZoS has done something right, by developing a game the other 99% of the player base can enjoy.

    The pushback here isnt the Crown Crates. Its the way this s'wit is going about objecting to Crown Crates. Hes blaming people for spending their money and trying to make them out to be terrible people for actually using what they bought. On top of that hes acting like we're dealing with the dregs of society when it comes to ZOS. Its a very extreme and unpopular view even amongst PAWs players.

    As I said before the vast majority of PAWS players haven't got the memo. Maybe PAWs should just call this one a loss and move to something else? I don't think the mods are going to get any more tolerant of their behavior.

    [Edit to remove shaming]
    Edited by ZOS_AntonioP on April 1, 2017 6:24PM
  • azoriangaming
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    Gargath wrote: »
    I really don't understand when people complain about other people for buying things from the crown store with their own well earned money and funding the longevity of the game.
    It's not really hard to understand that one's pleasure works against others immersion. As long as this is an mmo there will be people complaining on other people for x reasons, just because we must see each other in game and we always compare.
    I also don't like those animated crown crate mounts but do not complain on the people riding them. In my opinion these mounts do not fit to elder scrolls lore and they break my immersion too a bit. As a part of community though I have to move along and be over it.

    when it come to lore in this game i take it with a pinch of salt as i'm unsure if it's cannon to the main series also due to it being an mmo and usually mmo's now a days have stores that sell all kinds of wacky thing that break immersion, think yourself lucky that they didn't go with the p2w model.
  • CaiWenji
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    Phinix1 wrote: »
    Every time I log in. They aren't even playing the game. They just stand around at every wayshrine and crafting hub on their $300+ casino crate mounts, waiting for attention I guess.

    This is what your agenda to milk insecurity and the need for exclusivity through gambling has done to the game, ZOS.

    I don't even want to log in anymore. Thanks for giving me another reason to loath humanity.

    I have a storm atronauch on my main but I got lucky and won it on my second box. I do not sit around though. Why sit when I have 60/60/60 mount!? (that I earned over about 180 days).

    But I do get what you mean. For instance, I know for a fact that if I go to that dolmen a little north (northwest?) of Vulkhel's Guard in Auridon. That first one for AD players there are a ton of botters just sitting near it with a flame staff shooting fire bolts automatically for hours on end. Nothing has been done about it too and the people there keep growing. One reason why I have been playing more PlayStation version. A lot less botters and I have not been to that dolmen yet but generally no where near as many AFK (AFC(Controller)?) players. When I go to the bathroom or grab a snack I play the /lute usually although sometimes I do /idle2 or /sitchair. But yeah botting, macros, or hard-cheating is all horrible and will wreck any game. But I and you should have faith that Zenimax will fix it too! :smile:
    Edited by CaiWenji on April 1, 2017 6:00PM
  • Balticthunder
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    Love how people try and justify their crown crate purchases here, like c'mon, I got mount on my first and only crate!
    So deep inside you feel guilty eh? ;)
  • TheValkyn
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    Here's 2 reasons to loathe humanity. Two in one crate to be exact.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/328369/two-wild-hunt-mounts-one-crate/p1
  • xeNNNNN
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    Phinix1 wrote: »
    Every time I log in. They aren't even playing the game. They just stand around at every wayshrine and crafting hub on their $300+ casino crate mounts, waiting for attention I guess.

    This is what your agenda to milk insecurity and the need for exclusivity through gambling has done to the game, ZOS.

    I don't even want to log in anymore. Thanks for giving me another reason to loath humanity.

    Demons run, when a jealous man goes to war!

    Or woman or inbetween, I wont pretend to assume your gender.

    You do realize that some people are simply just afk right? and because a lot of people play the game the % of people that AFK will be big right? due to everyone not always being at the computer or console at the exact same time as everyone else?
    Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.
  • zyk
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    I don't know anyone who spent $300 to get their mount. I got mine for $24. No one I know spent more than $50.

    You clearly have a problem with how people spend their money.

    Obviously ZOS should apply the crate RNG to the rest of the game because most people I talk to with an Apex mount say the same thing: "ya bro I got lucky, I only bought a few crates!"

    This is every gambler. It's rare to find one that doesn't profess to win more often than they lose. Of course, it's normally BS. In this case, no one wants to admit to how badly they were fleeced.

    Edited by zyk on April 3, 2017 12:11AM
  • Woopy
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    So..where exactly does this effect you directly? Don't like it? Turn your monitor off.
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  • dem0n1k
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    Standing around at wayshrines in your most fancy duds IS the endgame right? RIGHT !?!?!
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  • disintegr8
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    I ride everywhere on my trusty 10k gold mount that I bought when that was all I could afford and I have no need to change it.

    And I wouldn't know (or care) what anyone else is doing, regardless of how expensive their mount is, because I am too busy doing what I want to take any notice of what anyone else is doing.
    Australian on PS4 NA server.
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  • Moiskormoimi
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    Phinix1 wrote: »
    Every time I log in. They aren't even playing the game. They just stand around at every wayshrine and crafting hub on their $300+ casino crate mounts, waiting for attention I guess.

    This is what your agenda to milk insecurity and the need for exclusivity through gambling has done to the game, ZOS.

    I don't even want to log in anymore. Thanks for giving me another reason to loath humanity.

    Tbf, mine was off the first roll so a 400 gem crate, tyvm.
  • JKorr
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    Balamoor wrote: »
    Balamoor wrote: »
    Is it my imagination guys, or are the people that are having the worst time in ESO, the same type of players that thought only the top 0.5% of players should have anything in other MMo's?


    You have someone whining about getting crap for posting his uber DPS after a fight
    The PAWS drones, posting yet another CC shame thread
    And the usual why can't this be more like <insert raid centric MMO here>

    In every instance these threads are getting overwhelming push back from the community, that if anything tells me that despite some balance and tech issues, ZoS has done something right, by developing a game the other 99% of the player base can enjoy.

    The pushback here isnt the Crown Crates. Its the way this s'wit is going about objecting to Crown Crates. Hes blaming people for spending their money and trying to make them out to be terrible people for actually using what they bought. On top of that hes acting like we're dealing with the dregs of society when it comes to ZOS. Its a very extreme and unpopular view even amongst PAWs players.

    As I said before the vast majority of PAWS players haven't got the memo. Maybe PAWs should just call this one a loss and move to something else? I don't think the mods are going to get any more tolerant of their behavior.

    [Edit to remove shaming]

    Sorry; while I don't object to people spending as much money as they want however they want to do so, I do object to items being locked forever behind the really horrible rng in this game. The apex rewards can be locked in the rngesus boxes forever, they are the themed, special items. Why are items that aren't themed being locked in the themed rngesus boxes? The black mane lion, red pit wolf, [and the cubs/pups that match] aren't themed; the orginally released for sale at a specific price clouded leopard senche is now locked in the gambleboxes.

    If they kept the special themed mounts separate, but allowed the not themed items to be sold at a set price after the clown crate season is over I would have no objections to the clown crates at all. People who want to gamble on getting the stuff early could do that; the people who don't want the apex mounts could wait and buy the item they want outright several months later.
  • iPrey
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    Can someone explain to me what this thread is about?

    Wet can win mounts thru gambling??
  • IronCrystal
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    iPrey wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me what this thread is about?

    Wet can win mounts thru gambling??

    It's not gambling. There are crown crates you can purchase in the store which contain random cosmetics, of which most people want the mount but its random what rewards you get. Not quite gambling since you always get a cosmetic, but most people buy crates hoping for the mount.
    Make PC NA raiding great again!

    Down with drama!


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  • Jemcrystal
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    iPrey wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me what this thread is about?

    Wet can win mounts thru gambling??

    It's not gambling. There are crown crates you can purchase in the store which contain random cosmetics, of which most people want the mount but its random what rewards you get. Not quite gambling since you always get a cosmetic, but most people buy crates hoping for the mount.

    Ah yeah it is gambling. Whenever you play the odds to win you are gambling. When you are spending real life money on a chance to get it's gambling. When you keep spending money on the hopes you will receive a reward - this time - it is definitely gambling.

    That said, insulting people who are gambling on the crates is not going to help them. Or help with their potential addiction.

    .
    Edited by Jemcrystal on April 3, 2017 1:53AM
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    zyk wrote: »
    I don't know anyone who spent $300 to get their mount. I got mine for $24. No one I know spent more than $50.

    You clearly have a problem with how people spend their money.

    Obviously ZOS should apply the crate RNG to the rest of the game because most people I talk to with an Apex mount say the same thing: "ya bro I got lucky, I only bought a few crates!"

    This is every gambler. It's rare to find one that doesn't profess to win more often than they lose. Of course, it's normally BS. In this case, no one wants to admit to how badly they were fleeced.

    Exactly, I just call bs on all the unbelievable luck that some of these posts have.
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Balamoor wrote: »
    Balamoor wrote: »
    Is it my imagination guys, or are the people that are having the worst time in ESO, the same type of players that thought only the top 0.5% of players should have anything in other MMo's?


    You have someone whining about getting crap for posting his uber DPS after a fight
    The PAWS drones, posting yet another CC shame thread
    And the usual why can't this be more like <insert raid centric MMO here>

    In every instance these threads are getting overwhelming push back from the community, that if anything tells me that despite some balance and tech issues, ZoS has done something right, by developing a game the other 99% of the player base can enjoy.

    The pushback here isnt the Crown Crates. Its the way this s'wit is going about objecting to Crown Crates. Hes blaming people for spending their money and trying to make them out to be terrible people for actually using what they bought. On top of that hes acting like we're dealing with the dregs of society when it comes to ZOS. Its a very extreme and unpopular view even amongst PAWs players.

    As I said before the vast majority of PAWS players haven't got the memo. Maybe PAWs should just call this one a loss and move to something else? I don't think the mods are going to get any more tolerant of their behavior.

    [Edit to remove shaming]

    I think its hilarious you think you know and can speak on the motivations of the majority of PAWS players.
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    Tenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'Les
    Aban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia Severinus
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    I really don't care if some is sitting around on a million dollar mount, does not effect me unless they used my money lol and if they are sitting around to get attention, they have medication for that LOL
  • IronCrystal
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    Jemcrystal wrote: »
    iPrey wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me what this thread is about?

    Wet can win mounts thru gambling??

    It's not gambling. There are crown crates you can purchase in the store which contain random cosmetics, of which most people want the mount but its random what rewards you get. Not quite gambling since you always get a cosmetic, but most people buy crates hoping for the mount.

    Ah yeah it is gambling. Whenever you play the odds to win you are gambling. When you are spending real life money on a chance to get it's gambling. When you keep spending money on the hopes you will receive a reward - this time - it is definitely gambling.

    That said, insulting people who are gambling on the crates is not going to help them. Or help with their potential addiction.

    .

    And what do you consider winning? Technically everyone's a winner, just some winners receive better rewards than others. You never lose.
    Make PC NA raiding great again!

    Down with drama!


    What Mechanics Healer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer

    Homestead Raid Scores
    vHRC 157,030
    vAA 138,287
    vSO 153,393
    vMoL 154,550

    Not raiding in Morrowind
  • Indigochild3rdi
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    Lol what did OP expect from posting this? Either it was a troll or he's just a sad person. Grow up. When I'm playing I barely even notice other players cause I'm just paying attention to what I'm doing. If I see a toon on a badass mount I think it's cool. I dont buy crates cause I don't have money to blow like that but if you get a mount why wouldn't you use it? Stop being a salty cry baby, grow up and don't play Mature rated games if you can't act mature lol
    Edited by Indigochild3rdi on April 3, 2017 2:16AM
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Jemcrystal wrote: »
    iPrey wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me what this thread is about?

    Wet can win mounts thru gambling??

    It's not gambling. There are crown crates you can purchase in the store which contain random cosmetics, of which most people want the mount but its random what rewards you get. Not quite gambling since you always get a cosmetic, but most people buy crates hoping for the mount.

    Ah yeah it is gambling. Whenever you play the odds to win you are gambling. When you are spending real life money on a chance to get it's gambling. When you keep spending money on the hopes you will receive a reward - this time - it is definitely gambling.

    That said, insulting people who are gambling on the crates is not going to help them. Or help with their potential addiction.

    .

    And what do you consider winning? Technically everyone's a winner, just some winners receive better rewards than others. You never lose.

    No one is gambling for any of those potions and riding lessons. The vast majority are gambling for those mounts. Or the higher rewards under the Apex Mounts. Theres a reason why the drop rate on the Apex rewards are so low. No one but those defending ZOS are pretending that those Apex rewards arent what everyones actually aiming for.
    Penniless Sellsword Company
    Captain Paramount - Jorrhaq Vhent
    Korith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the Grimjawl
    Tenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'Les
    Aban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia Severinus
    What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax
  • IronCrystal
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    Jemcrystal wrote: »
    iPrey wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me what this thread is about?

    Wet can win mounts thru gambling??

    It's not gambling. There are crown crates you can purchase in the store which contain random cosmetics, of which most people want the mount but its random what rewards you get. Not quite gambling since you always get a cosmetic, but most people buy crates hoping for the mount.

    Ah yeah it is gambling. Whenever you play the odds to win you are gambling. When you are spending real life money on a chance to get it's gambling. When you keep spending money on the hopes you will receive a reward - this time - it is definitely gambling.

    That said, insulting people who are gambling on the crates is not going to help them. Or help with their potential addiction.

    .

    And what do you consider winning? Technically everyone's a winner, just some winners receive better rewards than others. You never lose.

    No one is gambling for any of those potions and riding lessons. The vast majority are gambling for those mounts. Or the higher rewards under the Apex Mounts. Theres a reason why the drop rate on the Apex rewards are so low. No one but those defending ZOS are pretending that those Apex rewards arent what everyones actually aiming for.

    Well of course I understand they aren't as desirable, but I'm just explaining why it isn't technically gambling. Otherwise it would be illegal.
    Make PC NA raiding great again!

    Down with drama!


    What Mechanics Healer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer

    Homestead Raid Scores
    vHRC 157,030
    vAA 138,287
    vSO 153,393
    vMoL 154,550

    Not raiding in Morrowind
  • Balamoor
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    Balamoor wrote: »
    Balamoor wrote: »
    Is it my imagination guys, or are the people that are having the worst time in ESO, the same type of players that thought only the top 0.5% of players should have anything in other MMo's?


    You have someone whining about getting crap for posting his uber DPS after a fight
    The PAWS drones, posting yet another CC shame thread
    And the usual why can't this be more like <insert raid centric MMO here>

    In every instance these threads are getting overwhelming push back from the community, that if anything tells me that despite some balance and tech issues, ZoS has done something right, by developing a game the other 99% of the player base can enjoy.

    The pushback here isnt the Crown Crates. Its the way this s'wit is going about objecting to Crown Crates. Hes blaming people for spending their money and trying to make them out to be terrible people for actually using what they bought. On top of that hes acting like we're dealing with the dregs of society when it comes to ZOS. Its a very extreme and unpopular view even amongst PAWs players.

    As I said before the vast majority of PAWS players haven't got the memo. Maybe PAWs should just call this one a loss and move to something else? I don't think the mods are going to get any more tolerant of their behavior.

    [Edit to remove shaming]

    I think its hilarious you think you know and can speak on the motivations of the majority of PAWS players.

    Well since there is only like 15 or so of them that post on the forum's and I have witnessed the shaming and harassment on the forums like most everyone else has...I would say yeah pretty much anyone who is honest can.
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Jemcrystal wrote: »
    iPrey wrote: »
    Can someone explain to me what this thread is about?

    Wet can win mounts thru gambling??

    It's not gambling. There are crown crates you can purchase in the store which contain random cosmetics, of which most people want the mount but its random what rewards you get. Not quite gambling since you always get a cosmetic, but most people buy crates hoping for the mount.

    Ah yeah it is gambling. Whenever you play the odds to win you are gambling. When you are spending real life money on a chance to get it's gambling. When you keep spending money on the hopes you will receive a reward - this time - it is definitely gambling.

    That said, insulting people who are gambling on the crates is not going to help them. Or help with their potential addiction.

    .

    And what do you consider winning? Technically everyone's a winner, just some winners receive better rewards than others. You never lose.

    No one is gambling for any of those potions and riding lessons. The vast majority are gambling for those mounts. Or the higher rewards under the Apex Mounts. Theres a reason why the drop rate on the Apex rewards are so low. No one but those defending ZOS are pretending that those Apex rewards arent what everyones actually aiming for.

    Well of course I understand they aren't as desirable, but I'm just explaining why it isn't technically gambling. Otherwise it would be illegal.

    gam·ble
    ˈɡambəl/
    verb
    gerund or present participle: gambling
    1.
    play games of chance for money; bet.
    "she was fond of gambling on cards and horses"
    synonyms: bet, place/lay a bet on something, stake money on something, back the horses, game; informalplay the ponies
    "he started to gamble more often"
    2.
    take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
    "the British could only gamble that something would turn up"
    synonyms: take a chance, take a risk; More


    Legally speaking its a means of skirting the laws. But thats as far as it goes. It is still well within the definition of gambling.
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    Captain Paramount - Jorrhaq Vhent
    Korith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the Grimjawl
    Tenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'Les
    Aban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia Severinus
    What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax
  • Sigma957
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    zyk wrote: »
    I don't know anyone who spent $300 to get their mount. I got mine for $24. No one I know spent more than $50.

    You clearly have a problem with how people spend their money.

    Obviously ZOS should apply the crate RNG to the rest of the game because most people I talk to with an Apex mount say the same thing: "ya bro I got lucky, I only bought a few crates!"

    This is every gambler. It's rare to find one that doesn't profess to win more often than they lose. Of course, it's normally BS. In this case, no one wants to admit to how badly they were fleeced.

    Exactly, I just call bs on all the unbelievable luck that some of these posts have.

    Not at all bs,, with the storm atro mounts I got 15 craters and got nothing except I made enough gems to get the red pit wolf. With the wild hunt I got 4 crates and was lucky with an epic bear mount.
  • phairdon
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    My mount cost one months sub or $15 AUS.
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement.
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