We need a true auction house. With auction only and NO buyout.

Baronh2o

Chronicburn wrote: »

I remember years ago when I played WoW their auction house worked great... no clue why we don't have that type here ...

The current trade system in this game works better than WoW's. I just think people are too lazy to take advantage of it...trading guilds aren't hard to join. Most of them have open invite permissions.

Let me just put it this way. I played WoW for over a decade and didn't really make any money via the AH. In this game I make over 100k a month just from the one trading guild I'm in using their guild trader (which isn't even optimally placed). This 100k is pennies compared to what some people make but the system works guys...USE IT!

Darth_Apache

Tandor

Baronh2o wrote: »

Chronicburn wrote: »

I remember years ago when I played WoW their auction house worked great... no clue why we don't have that type here ...

The current trade system in this game works better than WoW's. I just think people are too lazy to take advantage of it...trading guilds aren't hard to join. Most of them have open invite permissions.

Let me just put it this way. I played WoW for over a decade and didn't really make any money via the AH. In this game I make over 100k a month just from the one trading guild I'm in using their guild trader (which isn't even optimally placed). This 100k is pennies compared to what some people make but the system works guys...USE IT!

That's fine for those who have that level of stuff to sell, many don't. My characters are largely self-sufficient, but I do have the odd spare recipe or motif that I could sell - but it isn't enough to be worth joining a guild for, and it isn't the sort of stuff worth using zone chat to sell either. I doubt if I would have listed more than a dozen items in the past 3 years, but the system doesn't allow it so I just sell them to merchants. The system is pretty much geared to high-level farmers and nobody else.

The system would still work well for the serious traders as well as allowing the casual ones to sell their stuff if the city trading locations had a single NPC trader with whom those who either don't belong to a trading guild or whose guild hasn't been successful that week could list no more than a handful of items at a high commission to be shared between the guilds trading in that location.

faerigirl

Baronh2o wrote: »

There is a website out there that's pretty amazing that will show you pretty much what every guild trader has it on currently. For example you can search for a specific item (even down to the trait) and it will tell you all items that are currently trading, the price of the item and where to find it (city and the name of the guild store).

What website?

Huyen

There is a valid reason why its called a Guild-store and not a Guild-actionhouse....do you want to wait 5 days at the local grocery-store just to see your bid on the carrots outbid by someone else about every 5 minutes? No? Neither do we in-game!

Tandor

Huyen wrote: »

There is a valid reason why its called a Guild-store and not a Guild-actionhouse....do you want to wait 5 days at the local grocery-store just to see your bid on the carrots outbid by someone else about every 5 minutes? No? Neither do we in-game!

Nor me! I'd far rather spend an evening traveling around Tamriel looking for carrots to buy, and filling in my spreadsheet with all the prices so I can be sure to go back to the trader with the cheapest ones !

(Assuming you mean auction house, most games with that system have a buy-out option so things like carrots are unlikely to be the subject of bidding wars!)

Baronh2o

faerigirl wrote: »

Baronh2o wrote: »

There is a website out there that's pretty amazing that will show you pretty much what every guild trader has it on currently. For example you can search for a specific item (even down to the trait) and it will tell you all items that are currently trading, the price of the item and where to find it (city and the name of the guild store).

What website?

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

faerigirl

Baronh2o wrote: »

faerigirl wrote: »

Baronh2o wrote: »

There is a website out there that's pretty amazing that will show you pretty much what every guild trader has it on currently. For example you can search for a specific item (even down to the trait) and it will tell you all items that are currently trading, the price of the item and where to find it (city and the name of the guild store).

What website?

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

Thanks!! I will check it out when I get home...ermm...not that I'm looking at the forums while at work or anything...

Darth_Apache

faerigirl wrote: »

Baronh2o wrote: »

faerigirl wrote: »

Baronh2o wrote: »

There is a website out there that's pretty amazing that will show you pretty much what every guild trader has it on currently. For example you can search for a specific item (even down to the trait) and it will tell you all items that are currently trading, the price of the item and where to find it (city and the name of the guild store).

What website?

https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

Thanks!! I will check it out when I get home...ermm...not that I'm looking at the forums while at work or anything...

Of course not!

KingDuncanVII

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Notice how the majority of people who makes these threads have 1 or 2 stars on the forum?

To be fair, that just means you're new to the forums, not necessarily new to ESO. Even so, you don't need to play the game for too long to form an opinion. I have been playing ESO since launch and I only have three stars. While I disagree with OP, his forum rank doesn't invalidate his opinion.

kylewwefan

No. When I buy *** I want it to go directly to my inventory. Not waiting around for some crappy auction to end. Traders should be similar to how they are, but every single one accessed right from the bank like our own guild store.

Cpt_Teemo

DHale wrote: »

I am glad the system is as is is. I won't pay 250 k for a spinner sharp fire staff when I can shop around and find an obscure trader where it's sold for 70 k. Which I did and am glad I was patient and it paid off. It will go well with the five piece morag tong for under 20 k. There is no reason the system need to be changed and btw it won't be.

Actually it can change.

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Gandrhulf_Harbard

Baronh2o wrote: »

The current trade system in this game works better than WoW's.

No.
It.
Really.
Doesn't.

All The Best

Gandrhulf_Harbard

Tandor wrote: »

I doubt if I would have listed more than a dozen items in the past 3 years, but the system doesn't allow it so I just sell them to merchants. T

Which of course drives prices up for those goods.

Which is exactly what the Trade Guilds want.

All The Best

anitajoneb17_ESO

Tandor wrote: »

That's fine for those who have that level of stuff to sell, many don't. My characters are largely self-sufficient, but I do have the odd spare recipe or motif that I could sell - but it isn't enough to be worth joining a guild for, and it isn't the sort of stuff worth using zone chat to sell either. I doubt if I would have listed more than a dozen items in the past 3 years, but the system doesn't allow it so I just sell them to merchants. The system is pretty much geared to high-level farmers and nobody else.

You most certainly have a friend who does a lot of farming/trading and who is in a top trading guild. Sell your occasional stuff to him (with some rebate) so he can resell through his guild. Problem solved. I do that all the time for quite a few people who, like you, don't want the pressure of a big trading guild and don't have enough to justify taking a a guild slot for it.

ZOS doesn't need to set up systems for solving problems that a bit of socializing solve easily.

Tandor

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

That's fine for those who have that level of stuff to sell, many don't. My characters are largely self-sufficient, but I do have the odd spare recipe or motif that I could sell - but it isn't enough to be worth joining a guild for, and it isn't the sort of stuff worth using zone chat to sell either. I doubt if I would have listed more than a dozen items in the past 3 years, but the system doesn't allow it so I just sell them to merchants. The system is pretty much geared to high-level farmers and nobody else.

You most certainly have a friend who does a lot of farming/trading and who is in a top trading guild. Sell your occasional stuff to him (with some rebate) so he can resell through his guild. Problem solved. I do that all the time for quite a few people who, like you, don't want the pressure of a big trading guild and don't have enough to justify taking a a guild slot for it.

ZOS doesn't need to set up systems for solving problems that a bit of socializing solve easily.

I don't, as it happens. Besides, something as basic in a MMO as selling items shouldn't involve artificial barriers like guilds or third parties, it should be simple enough for any player to use the trading system at any time. I've done it in every other MMO I've played since 1997.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Tandor wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

That's fine for those who have that level of stuff to sell, many don't. My characters are largely self-sufficient, but I do have the odd spare recipe or motif that I could sell - but it isn't enough to be worth joining a guild for, and it isn't the sort of stuff worth using zone chat to sell either. I doubt if I would have listed more than a dozen items in the past 3 years, but the system doesn't allow it so I just sell them to merchants. The system is pretty much geared to high-level farmers and nobody else.

You most certainly have a friend who does a lot of farming/trading and who is in a top trading guild. Sell your occasional stuff to him (with some rebate) so he can resell through his guild. Problem solved. I do that all the time for quite a few people who, like you, don't want the pressure of a big trading guild and don't have enough to justify taking a a guild slot for it.

ZOS doesn't need to set up systems for solving problems that a bit of socializing solve easily.

I don't, as it happens. Besides, something as basic in a MMO as selling items shouldn't involve artificial barriers like guilds or third parties, it should be simple enough for any player to use the trading system at any time. I've done it in every other MMO I've played since 1997.

Get one then ;-) socializing is pretty easy in ESO (at least I think it is). You're not on PC/EU are you ? If you are I could sell your stuff for you.
As to the "every other MMO..."... you know the argument, it's all over these threads... the counter-argument being "but it's not every other MMO, it's ESO..."... so yeah I guess it really comes down to personal preferences. I'm sorry you don't like the current system, I'm happy it is the way it is... but I'm sure there are other aspects of the game where things are just vice-versa and... well, that's how it is.

kvlou79

Yeah, I can't stand this monopoly mini game ZOS created here. I mean, sounds like some people, all they do with they're time is play guild trader online and not the actual content. I agree with @Tandor, selling items you've acquired shouldn't be this much of a commitment. We know it'll never change, because all the market lords will throw a fit and have their members log in to throw a fit to. Seriously, the prices for motifs on traders is rediculous. I just low ball sell stuff on chat. F the sky high prices of trader mafias, err, guild traders.

anitajoneb17_ESO

kvlou79 wrote: »

I mean, sounds like some people, all they do with they're time is play guild trader online and not the actual content.

Trading IS ACTUAL CONTENT.

Darth_Apache

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

kvlou79 wrote: »

I mean, sounds like some people, all they do with they're time is play guild trader online and not the actual content.

Trading IS ACTUAL CONTENT.

LMAO!!
It's funny cuz it's true....

kvlou79

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

kvlou79 wrote: »

I mean, sounds like some people, all they do with they're time is play guild trader online and not the actual content.

Trading IS ACTUAL CONTENT.

Yes. It is. And I do trade. What I'm referring to is this whole "buy low, sell CRAZY high" BS that takes place in the guild trader system. 50K for motif page?!?! *** please!

Malamar1229

No

anitajoneb17_ESO

kvlou79 wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

kvlou79 wrote: »

I mean, sounds like some people, all they do with they're time is play guild trader online and not the actual content.

Trading IS ACTUAL CONTENT.

Yes. It is. And I do trade. What I'm referring to is this whole "buy low, sell CRAZY high" BS that takes place in the guild trader system. 50K for motif page?!?! *** please!

First of all, when it comes to "rare" items, things would be worse in a centralized AH. Then it's just a matter of patience. ALL motifs prices go down over time until they reach some sort of bottom level which depends on how hard it is to obtain it. (300 for assassin, 5K for thieves' guild, 15k for Abah's watch, etc...). Just wait. Mazzatun, Silken Ring, etc. are expensive right now because they're fairly new and relatively difficult to farm. Going through those two dungeons in vet mode isn't very hard but requires a somewhat solid team.
And finally I have good news for you : the jester festival at the end of the month will have daily quests with rewards containing very often motif pages - including rare ones. Save your money for now, motif pages will be raining during that festival (assuming the design is the same as on PTS).

Cpt_Teemo

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

kvlou79 wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

kvlou79 wrote: »

I mean, sounds like some people, all they do with they're time is play guild trader online and not the actual content.

Trading IS ACTUAL CONTENT.

Yes. It is. And I do trade. What I'm referring to is this whole "buy low, sell CRAZY high" BS that takes place in the guild trader system. 50K for motif page?!?! *** please!

First of all, when it comes to "rare" items, things would be worse in a centralized AH. Then it's just a matter of patience. ALL motifs prices go down over time until they reach some sort of bottom level which depends on how hard it is to obtain it. (300 for assassin, 5K for thieves' guild, 15k for Abah's watch, etc...). Just wait. Mazzatun, Silken Ring, etc. are expensive right now because they're fairly new and relatively difficult to farm. Going through those two dungeons in vet mode isn't very hard but requires a somewhat solid team.
And finally I have good news for you : the jester festival at the end of the month will have daily quests with rewards containing very often motif pages - including rare ones. Save your money for now, motif pages will be raining during that festival (assuming the design is the same as on PTS).

Wow, they really do intend to add the rare hard to find motifs in with the festival that will make people stop buying them with real $ as well, pretty bad tbh ha.

Tandor

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

That's fine for those who have that level of stuff to sell, many don't. My characters are largely self-sufficient, but I do have the odd spare recipe or motif that I could sell - but it isn't enough to be worth joining a guild for, and it isn't the sort of stuff worth using zone chat to sell either. I doubt if I would have listed more than a dozen items in the past 3 years, but the system doesn't allow it so I just sell them to merchants. The system is pretty much geared to high-level farmers and nobody else.

You most certainly have a friend who does a lot of farming/trading and who is in a top trading guild. Sell your occasional stuff to him (with some rebate) so he can resell through his guild. Problem solved. I do that all the time for quite a few people who, like you, don't want the pressure of a big trading guild and don't have enough to justify taking a a guild slot for it.

ZOS doesn't need to set up systems for solving problems that a bit of socializing solve easily.

I don't, as it happens. Besides, something as basic in a MMO as selling items shouldn't involve artificial barriers like guilds or third parties, it should be simple enough for any player to use the trading system at any time. I've done it in every other MMO I've played since 1997.

Get one then ;-) socializing is pretty easy in ESO (at least I think it is). You're not on PC/EU are you ? If you are I could sell your stuff for you.
As to the "every other MMO..."... you know the argument, it's all over these threads... the counter-argument being "but it's not every other MMO, it's ESO..."... so yeah I guess it really comes down to personal preferences. I'm sorry you don't like the current system, I'm happy it is the way it is... but I'm sure there are other aspects of the game where things are just vice-versa and... well, that's how it is.

I am on PC EU, and appreciate the offer. It's kind of you, although as I have already said the scope for me to sell stuff is very small as I have a large contingent of characters across two accounts and they're largely self-sufficient.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

First of all, when it comes to "rare" items, things would be worse in a centralized AH.

And yet I've never seen the kind of price gouging, and price convergence in games with an AH that I see in ESO.

Please not I don't want an AH.

I just want all the half-truths and untruths about them to stop.

I challenge anyone to name 1 game with an AH whose economy is as dysfunctional as ESO's.

Just one.

There isn't one, and you all know it.

All The Best

Cpt_Teemo

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

First of all, when it comes to "rare" items, things would be worse in a centralized AH.

And yet I've never seen the kind of price gouging, and price convergence in games with an AH that I see in ESO.

Please not I don't want an AH.

I just want all the half-truths and untruths about them to stop.

I challenge anyone to name 1 game with an AH whose economy is as dysfunctional as ESO's.

Just one.

There isn't one, and you all know it.

All The Best

BDO, you can't list anything above the max price / below min price, and you have to wait for yours to sell most of the times, cause whatever item is lowest at the time it always sells before the rest, you can't buy higher prices if there is a lower price already.

RedWarrior72

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Baronh2o wrote: »

The current trade system in this game works better than WoW's.

No.
It.
Really.
Doesn't.

All The Best

Correct, no is does not. I don't know about anyone else, but I have never heard of any economics classes using ESO to teach lessons with. People complain about it say will cause rising prices, yes it will, in about the first 3 months. Then they stabilize and will be sold for the same prices or lower than they were before. High end stuff will remain high priced, low end stuff and mats will come down a bit because people will actually be able to find it for use and there will be competition. People will not get rich in this game selling low level stuff anyway, but an AH would give a better option than just selling stuff to a vendor when someone may be looking for what you have.

hamgatan

RedWarrior72 wrote: »

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Baronh2o wrote: »

The current trade system in this game works better than WoW's.

No.
It.
Really.
Doesn't.

All The Best

Correct, no is does not. I don't know about anyone else, but I have never heard of any economics classes using ESO to teach lessons with. People complain about it say will cause rising prices, yes it will, in about the first 3 months. Then they stabilize and will be sold for the same prices or lower than they were before. High end stuff will remain high priced, low end stuff and mats will come down a bit because people will actually be able to find it for use and there will be competition. People will not get rich in this game selling low level stuff anyway, but an AH would give a better option than just selling stuff to a vendor when someone may be looking for what you have.

Wrong. ESO is an economy heavily influenced and biased by what streamers/youtubers are posting in their build videos. I blame Deltia, Alcast, Sypher etc for that.

2 months ago Necropotence wasnt worth the dingleberries on my dogs bum fluff. Now its ridonkulously priced. Why? Three words.

Best.. in.. slot. (For pets).

If those guys tote it and post it - prices go nuts. Hell if Burning Spellweave was BoE can you imagine the prices you would see on that.. why is it so easy to get a group to farm CoA or VoM these days..? Once again.. BiS.

Arcane Willpower, Robust Agility.. once fetched a fortune because they were on almost every build video. Now theyre a fraction of their former self. Why is Temp Alloy 2.5x the price of Dreugh Wax at the moment? Because heavy is the Meta in PvP.

Its actually a dangerous place to be in when the words of a few individuals control the entire economy (so its not all dissimilar from real life...)

mrfrontman

This is the worst idea I've ever seen. Sorry to OP, I don't mean to offend you in any way, but there are going to be literally thousands of bots on at once, making sure those bids are secured.