We need a true auction house. With auction only and NO buyout.

Khedrakb14_ESO · February 2017

I've been playing since Alpha and do agree there needs to be a change in the way we are allowed to sell our goods.

The guild stores / trader are a nice concept and different than most games. But its a major flaw in an MMO. More than 9/10 of guilds out there won't have a guild trader. You'd have to be in as many trade guilds as you can, just to sell stuff. These guilds are the worst for they are only for trading. There is hardly any socialization within them, making friends is impossible, yet alone finding people to do groups or other things within this type of guild. You also have to spend gold to the guild so the guild can get or keep a guild trader. That is gold you lose. (i.e. Lottery, in-guild auctions and just donating). Some even require you to pay guild dues in order to stay in the guild. There is also a lot of guild hoping, as when a guild loses their guild trader, people drop guild and look for another that has a guild trader. Most of these type of guilds have an inactive policy of 7 days to 30 days and you get the boot to make room for more gold payers to get or keep the trader. Again hard to make friends with this system.

I do like the idea but there just isn't enough Guild merchants to go around. It would be better if there was at least 10 times more of them.

So I say keep this Guild Store / Merchant system but put in a true auction house. One that has NO buyout function and at minimum of 3-5 day auctions. Also only allow certain items (high value items) in the auction house. Also with a limit to how many items you can put into the action house. Something like 10 - 15 would be best. Mainly to keep the traders useful and to keep out all those stack-able, single item posts that take up auction space, out.

This would also be something unique as most MMO have a buyout in their auction houses. I'm not even sure if any MMO has a true Auction house. I've never seen one. I've played MMO's for over 20 years now and I've not seen an auction house without a buyout feature.

EDIT: Look at this from a sellers point of view. You can get the most profit from your most valued items and there would be no undercutting of prices. You set a price and the players would control the market by bidding only what they feel its worth.

From a buyers point of view, yes you may have to wait a few days till the action is over but you at least know the item isn't over priced because its the players market that set the price. Like when you go to a guild trader and buy something for say 10k and find out in many other guild traders that the item sells for 2k. If you don't get the one you bid on, you can always bid on another like it later with a better idea on how much it'l be. Also you wouldn't have to keep going from town to town looking at all those guild Traders for the high value items you're looking for.

LadyLavina · February 2017

I would have to say please no. Not being able to immediately get stuff (no buyout) and having to wait 5 days would just be awful in my opinion.

very well put together thought though, you stated your case well. curious to see what others think

DigitalShibby · February 2017

Long live the guild traders.

idk · February 2017

DigitalShibby wrote: »

Long live the guild traders.

This ^^^

Because a true auction house is worse than a central trade kiosk.

JWKe · February 2017

No buyout? wtf. NO! I'm not going to wait 5 days just for a carrot. If i'm going to have to wait 5 days I might as well just go farm it myself. Plus, if I were to bid for a silly carrot I might even risk being outbid so now what? Bid for another carrot and wait another couple of days. LOL. No thanks. Current system far outclasses the "No Buyout AH".

And don't even get me started with the trolls who would intentionally drive the prices up by going into a bid war.

WalkingLegacy · February 2017

Had me until you said I gotta wait 5 days for my purchase. I guess you're looking for eBay Scrolls Online though.

Everything else I can agree on.

grumlins · February 2017

Actually no you don't I have tons of sets of armor pieces I've acquired simply from visiting towns with guild vendors. They have everything you need usually and if you don't like the price in one you go to another until you find what you are looking for.

Tannus15 · February 2017

Yeah, nah.
I like the current system thanks.

Though search functionality should be added.

Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

DigitalShibby wrote: »

Long live the guild traders.

This ^^^

Because a true auction house is worse than a central trade kiosk.

I'd like a central market place atleast in each zone in the main neutral safe hubs that pull all guild info in that zone into one vendor while still mainting the guild vendors and upkeep per week, but just have everything centralized instead of having to wander around from vendor to vendor all the time.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · February 2017

Notice how the majority of people who makes these threads have 1 or 2 stars on the forum?

otis67 · February 2017

No

Domander · February 2017

Usually if I want to buy something, it's right now.

c0rp · February 2017

Worst idea NA ever. Welcome to the forums OP.

Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

c0rp wrote: »

Worst idea NA ever. Welcome to the forums OP.

Worst idea, yet every single MMO on the current market uses a server wide centralized market place besides ESO.

Xelrick · February 2017

If they did implement some type of auction system it would have to have multiple types of auctions... Which I know only works with a Buy option.

See my old school MMO text game's auction system had World Quick Auctions where people anywhere in the game could actively bid and winner would be determined in a minute of no bids. Catch there could only be 1 item listed at a time. Luckly, there was a Buy out option because bid always started at 1 gold. but cost 10 gold(=1000 ESO Gold) to start. ESO equivalent would require people able to bid anywhere, but not always active to not congest the screen. However that as bad as the people spamming items in text chat.

Second was Client Closed Auctions and those you bid on only once and you never know other bids and items would range from 1 hour to 7 days (base on item rarity not user choice). If ESO had this it would need to be within a day, where it could be instantly bought as an option, It'll have to have a cost for listing was well, or like % of winning bid.

Final one was Items of the week, which Admins, threw out Very rare items that only few players in the world got these items. These Auctions you saw top bids when they were running, I got a one handed weapon that was equivalent to a full set of heavy armor from that. Eso equivalent probably be items that are at Crown store level, and such listed by ZOS themselves.

Only people I'm against are the people that messing with the gold ratio of item prices and those taking traders stocked with little to no items.

WaTeR-aBuSeR · February 2017

NO

Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

WaTeR-aBuSeR wrote: »

NO

YES

zergbase_ESO · February 2017

After spending a good part my day searching every trader just to find what I wanted in middle of know where at an okay price I am so for auction houses.

Or put search Vendor in major city so I can Browse all traders find trader name and location for item i want go to it and buy it too appease both crowds. I just think everyone hates the portal jumping to find one item to be fair.

johu31 · February 2017

I've spent hours and hours looking for things I need at low prices and I'm still against them.

zergbase_ESO · February 2017

johu31 wrote: »

I've spent hours and hours looking for things I need at low prices and I'm still against them.

That is good for you? Most people dislike doing it.

Search function to all traders is not much to ask for.

kargen27 · February 2017

I disagree with most of your opinion about trading guild experience. I am in one trading guild and two social guilds that get vendors. The trading guild almost always gets a prime location. The social guilds get lesser visited spots. They are though very consistent in being able to get a vendor.

The trading guild does have a minimum of goods you must sell but it is really low. You must either sell 5000 gold worth of stuff or purchase one raffle ticket. A ticket is 1000 gold. They understand if you have a bad week. They have an auction each week from donated goods. If you donate to the auction or purchase something in the auction that works to meet the requirements.
Of the five guilds I am in theirs is the most active in guild chat and on team speak. Conversation breaks up the tedium of grinding for loot. It is easy to find someone willing to run pledges and manage a few trial runs. They are not going to get on the leader board but that isn't the point of this guild. I am in one that does compete for leader board position. They are not nearly as social though they are helpful with builds and gearing so long as it is toward helping improve trial runs.

The two social guilds we don't always know where the vendor will be but we usually get one. My main guild we have missed maybe four times in the last six months.

I've heard horror stories about some trade guilds. When you find yourself in one, leave. There are plenty of really good guilds out there that have access to vendors.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · February 2017

How about what you're proposing but a buy out system and no waiting 5 days. We all win then. Prices be driven down by ppl undercutting each other.

SanSan · February 2017

no buyout is the stupidest thing you said.

Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

zergbase_ESO wrote: »

johu31 wrote: »

I've spent hours and hours looking for things I need at low prices and I'm still against them.

That is good for you? Most people dislike doing it.

Search function to all traders is not much to ask for.

Especially when you can simply download a mod for it, AGS

Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

SanSan wrote: »

no buyout is the stupidest thing you said.

Yeah really needs to be instant buyout for it to work tbh, like WoW, Swtor, FF14, and every other MMO game, besides BDO somewhat

kyle.wilson · February 2017

Diablo 3 had a true auction house, and It was terrible. The game literally was a haven for gold sellers.
I left that game long before the first expansion. It was the epitomy of boring grind.

JimT722 · February 2017

This game doesn't need an auction house. All it needs is a way to search a store instead of scrolling through countless pages to find the thing you're looking for.

kyle.wilson · February 2017

JimT722 wrote: »

This game doesn't need an auction house. All it needs is a way to search a store instead of scrolling through countless pages to find the thing you're looking for.

They need to look at the add-on awesome guild store and use that as a base to build that search.

SlayerTheDragon · February 2017

Consider this:

One central auction house where you can buy/view the goods, but you need to go pick it up at the guild traders where ever they are.

AzraelKrieg · February 2017

Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

Consider this:

One central auction house where you can buy/view the goods, but you need to go pick it up at the guild traders where ever they are.

Or my idea seemed pretty nice as well having centralized marketers in the main hub in each zone that pools all the info from all the guilds in that zone into one area with the multiple marketers (including the ones in the thieves area).