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Dueling should be considered a crime
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Cavedog✭✭✭✭✭
✭If duelling lags you out, then upgrade your crap rig.
People can do what they want, personally I cant stand RPers coming out with their crap in non private channels, but would I deprive them of doing what they wanna do in a game they paid for? nope.
Just because you do not like something, does not mean that everyone has to bow down to peoples selfish desires.
Yeah, you hear that ZOS! "update your crap rig"!1 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I'm not into dueling but it doesn't bother me. Sometimes, if they are entertaining enough, I will stop and cheer them on.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Duels didn't bother me as it was really no different than before when people would spam every ability that didn't require a target just for the hell of it. I remember when Mutagen wad glitched and you could spam cast it 20 times in a 4 seconds period, which was so much worse than duels. Mournhold looked like a rave party with all the glow sticks everywhere, and god forbid they had SPC on.
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Arato✭✭✭✭✭
✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »I used to be against it in towns until I got bored of the same old PvE thing and now, I don't mind it at all. It allows people wishing to duel to find others quickly. Do I think people should be doing it in banks or next to crafting tables etc etc? No, but busy wayshrines are fine because it's where most people just hang around anyway doing nothing other than trash talk or spamming their AoE's. At least now they have the option of actually doing something the game encourages them to do.
I think something should be done about the bots and rubber banders that ruin certain areas for those wishing to play the game how it's intended to be played, not those using a feature ZoS gave us to use.
But it also means people have problems loading into towns where people are dueling right on the wayshrine. I end up having to alt+f4 and pick a wayshrine outside of the town in order to go to a town now, it's obnoxious. All because duel w****s feel they need an audience. Let's face it, if you're so cool that people would want to watch you, they'd subscribe to your twitch stream, if you need to FORCE people to watch you by doing stuff right on top of populated areas, you're not so cool.Edited by Arato on February 11, 2017 10:21PM9 -
Arato✭✭✭✭✭
✭and honestly, I'm not saying you COULDN'T duel in towns under the system I propose, I'm just saying that if you do you're probably going to find your duel interrupted by STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!
You'll pay bounties for it and might find yourselves getting slaughtered by the guards.
So smart people would avoid towns
But you could still do it.2 -
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runagate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »I used to be against it in towns until I got bored of the same old PvE thing and now, I don't mind it at all. It allows people wishing to duel to find others quickly. Do I think people should be doing it in banks or next to crafting tables etc etc? No, but busy wayshrines are fine because it's where most people just hang around anyway doing nothing other than trash talk or spamming their AoE's. At least now they have the option of actually doing something the game encourages them to do.
I think something should be done about the bots and rubber banders that ruin certain areas for those wishing to play the game how it's intended to be played, not those using a feature ZoS gave us to use.
But it also means people have problems loading into towns where people are dueling right on the wayshrine. I end up having to alt+f4 and pick a wayshrine outside of the town in order to go to a town now, it's obnoxious. All because duel w****s feel they need an audience. Let's face it, if you're so cool that people would want to watch you, they'd subscribe to your twitch stream, if you need to FORCE people to watch you by doing stuff right on top of populated areas, you're not so cool.
A sociopath doesn't care how it affect you, they only see it affecting themselves then lash out as much as possible hoping to bully someone less unconstrained from backing down.4 -
Arreyanne✭✭✭✭Just as I figured when they added in dueling it'd be happening right next to the waypoints in every city in every zone unless the zone is dead. It's a bother in MMO's and a visual eyesore that doesn't belong smack in the middle of towns.
Make it incur a bounty so that duelers have to avoid the guards/witnesses and take that bother out in the wilderness where it doesn't bother anyone else.
[Edit to remove inappropriate remark.]
AmenEdited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 12, 2017 2:52AM1 -
SaRuZ✭✭✭✭✭Just as I figured when they added in dueling it'd be happening right next to the waypoints in every city in every zone unless the zone is dead. It's a bother in MMO's and a visual eyesore that doesn't belong smack in the middle of towns.
Make it incur a bounty so that duelers have to avoid the guards/witnesses and take that bother out in the wilderness where it doesn't bother anyone else.
[Edit to remove inappropriate remark.]
It's not as bad as it was when OT dropped.It was congested the first few months but it grows on you. It's also really fun to accept a duel from someone around your level and battle it out for a bit, tis a rush.
A lot of us had wanted designated dueling areas as well, such as Hammerdeath Arena in Stormhaven. ZoS ignored us though and decided to market Homestead as a "Build your own Arena! Manors have been tested to meet performance of 24 players dueling all at once!" Pretty stupid since they can't even prevent performance issues with people dueling outside wayrest.
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 12, 2017 2:53AM1 -
SaRuZ✭✭✭✭✭MythicEmperor wrote: »
I hated that so bad. Glad that all stopped. It was so stupid, everybody running around casting spells all day, why? Dumb af.
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Molydeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is the kind of post where you have a spoiled little brat asking to ruin the fun of other people because it bothers him, Role playing bothers me, make it illegal, *** off.
Except that roleplaying doesn't cause asinine amounts of lag in already crowded areas. Dueling does, so it ruins everyone else's experience. RP affects no one unless you're a petty child.5 -
WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dueling should not be a crime.
How is an agreement between two people against the law? Just because you don't like to see it....
...people these days.0 -
dem0n1k✭✭✭✭✭
✭Before duels were introduced players still spammed their skills in cities & near wayshrines & they will continue to do so no matter what the state of duelling is.
Duelling is a crime! The duelists are given a trial by combat, the divines will judge them worthy or not!
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Shad0wfire99✭✭✭✭✭
✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Just as I figured when they added in dueling it'd be happening right next to the waypoints in every city in every zone unless the zone is dead. It's a bother in MMO's and a visual eyesore that doesn't belong smack in the middle of towns.
Make it incur a bounty so that duelers have to avoid the guards/witnesses and take that bother out in the wilderness where it doesn't bother anyone else.
[Edit to remove inappropriate remark.]
how are they an eyesore?
trying to look at the screen of the guild sales to buy matterials i need to make armor for someone and i cant focus because your magicka casting is not only shaking the screen but it is also causing flares and fighting flashes of light and sound that interferes with purchases.
It's cute that you think you're more deserving than the next person. People have as much right to stand there duelling as you do crafting or buying. You might not agree with that, but the game doesn't and shouldn't revolve around your every whim and your unreasonable expectations.
That goes both ways.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 12, 2017 2:54AM
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WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Prof_Bawbag wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Just as I figured when they added in dueling it'd be happening right next to the waypoints in every city in every zone unless the zone is dead. It's a bother in MMO's and a visual eyesore that doesn't belong smack in the middle of towns.
Make it incur a bounty so that duelers have to avoid the guards/witnesses and take that bother out in the wilderness where it doesn't bother anyone else.
[Edit to remove inappropriate remark.]
how are they an eyesore?
trying to look at the screen of the guild sales to buy matterials i need to make armor for someone and i cant focus because your magicka casting is not only shaking the screen but it is also causing flares and fighting flashes of light and sound that interferes with purchases.
It's cute that you think you're more deserving than the next person. People have as much right to stand there duelling as you do crafting or buying. You might not agree with that, but the game doesn't and shouldn't revolve around your every whim and your unreasonable expectations.
That goes both ways.
That's exactly what they said....Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 12, 2017 2:55AM0 -
Arato✭✭✭✭✭
✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »Dueling should not be a crime.
How is an agreement between two people against the law? Just because you don't like to see it....
...people these days.
Go try to challenge someone to a duel right now, irl, go out in the streets and start punching each other in front of the cops. Surely they'll just let you have at it because it's an agreement between two people, it's not like you're disrupting other people at all!8 -
Loc2262✭✭✭✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »It's cute that you think you're more deserving than the next person. People have as much right to stand there duelling as you do crafting or buying. You might not agree with that, but the game doesn't and shouldn't revolve around your every whim and your unreasonable expectations.
Newsflash: Crafting and shopping has to be done in fixed locations. Dueling can be done anywhere.
Why do the duelers have to let their graphics effects fly all over the screen, in a location where it bothers other people the most, in a game that has serious performance issues to begin with? Especially recently, with all the ugly bugs after the Homestead patch?
I very much agree that dueling has to be kept out of major cities like Rawl'kha!Kind regards,
Frank
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dbgager✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »Dueling should not be a crime.
How is an agreement between two people against the law? Just because you don't like to see it....
...people these days.
Go try to challenge someone to a duel right now, irl, go out in the streets and start punching each other in front of the cops. Surely they'll just let you have at it because it's an agreement between two people, it's not like you're disrupting other people at all!
Yes your right. Thats going to get you arrested ..Agreed upon or not.1 -
sumisu1✭✭✭Dueling should teleport the two players to an empty area and make it like a beat'em up fighting game. 2 -
JinMori✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is the kind of post where you have a spoiled little brat asking to ruin the fun of other people because it bothers him, Role playing bothers me, make it illegal, *** off.
Except that roleplaying doesn't cause asinine amounts of lag in already crowded areas. Dueling does, so it ruins everyone else's experience. RP affects no one unless you're a petty child.
Not even once i have noticed severe drops in performance while people were dueling, and i have a *** connection.0 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If duelling lags you out, then upgrade your crap rig.
People can do what they want, personally I cant stand RPers coming out with their crap in non private channels, but would I deprive them of doing what they wanna do in a game they paid for? nope.
Just because you do not like something, does not mean that everyone has to bow down to peoples selfish desires.
Yeah, you hear that ZOS! "update your crap rig"!
"We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
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Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »Dueling should not be a crime.
How is an agreement between two people against the law? Just because you don't like to see it....
...people these days.
Go try to challenge someone to a duel right now, irl, go out in the streets and start punching each other in front of the cops. Surely they'll just let you have at it because it's an agreement between two people, it's not like you're disrupting other people at all!
It's not called Duels irl.
It's called World Stars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PL8yhdGJPI Argonian forever0 -
qsnoopyjr✭✭✭✭People just feel intimidated by players who duel.
They like to use excuses, causes server lag.
Let me ask you something. Has the servers ever shut down because of dueling?
Nah, didnt think so.
Just cuz you are a baddie doesn't mean you got to spoil the fun for everyone.
Stay inside the bank or go to your house, if you want a judgement free zone.0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭.People just feel intimidated by players who duel.
They like to use excuses, causes server lag.
Let me ask you something. Has the servers ever shut down because of dueling?
Nah, didnt think so.
Just cuz you are a baddie doesn't mean you got to spoil the fun for everyone.
Stay inside the bank or go to your house, if you want a judgement free zone.
i cant concentrate nor buy stuff from traders, guild traders, crafting, making armor for people because trying to look at the screen of the guild sales to buy matterials i need to make armor for someone and i cant focus because magicka casting is not only shaking the screen but it is also causing flares and fighting flashes of light and sound that interferes with purchases.
completely takes away my ability to concentrate and do what im trying to do.2 -
qsnoopyjr✭✭✭✭One other thing to think about.
One thing you hear PvP'er say a lot "Being a PvP'er we broke as hell all the time"
This is why they are GLADIATORS. Aka from the movie Gladiator. They are not peasant folks, just getting by. They live fight and breathe duels for a living.
Thats why they fight in towns.
They cannot afford a house
They need the money
They duel in towns.
Yes, rich folk... 50 Million and over gold people, they actually pay to watch good fights.
Instead of feeling intimidated by PvP'ers aka GLADIATORS.
Learn. Learn from them instead.0 -
ZOS_GregoryVmodWhile we are glad to hear all of your thoughts about Dueling, we would like to ask that all posts be kept within the Community Rules so that this thread may remain open. Thank you for your understanding!Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on February 12, 2017 2:58AMThe Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited - ZeniMax Online Studios
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