Dueling should be considered a crime

Maikon

Arato wrote: »

Just as I figured when they added in dueling it'd be happening right next to the waypoints in every city in every zone unless the zone is dead. It's a bother in MMO's and a visual eyesore that doesn't belong smack in the middle of towns.

Make it incur a bounty so that duelers have to avoid the guards/witnesses and take that bother out in the wilderness where it doesn't bother anyone else.

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Anyone who makes a post like this is bother.

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austinwalter87ub17_ESO

All your zones are belong to us.

ZiRM

I don't mind it adds life to the cities and game. Sometimes I just stop and watch, it's not my thing but to each their own. What gets to me is .. I have dueling invites set to off and when someone try's to duel me it auto declines them. Sometimes they whisper me or just say it in chat.. COWARD! I had a guy follow me around and moan about it in chat that I wouldn't duel him so I must be a coward blah blah blah. It's borderline harassment at a certain point. I don't like PvP and dueling, sue me... I don't complain about people that enjoy it.

MythicEmperor

Dueling wasn't made illegal in the U.S. until the 1800's. Why would it be illegal in a fantasy setting where slavery, murder (in the Morag Tong), and cannibalism are allowed? Furthermore, it wouldn't be lore friendly as you can duel Old Orcs in Skyrim, and legally at that. So no, OP.

MythicEmperor

Vipstaakki wrote: »

Arato wrote: »

Just as I figured when they added in dueling it'd be happening right next to the waypoints in every city in every zone unless the zone is dead. It's a cancer in MMO's and a visual eyesore that doesn't belong smack in the middle of towns.

Make it incur a bounty so that duelers have to avoid the guards/witnesses and take that cancer out in the wilderness where it doesn't bother anyone else.

I totally agree with you. Dueling in cities should be a crime and the guards should attack you for it.
Fortunately the towns on PC/EU have been relatively dueling free. It was terrible when dueling first was released.

Aha, but then the guard would be dueling you, prompting another guard to duel that guard, and another, and another, and another...

Dueling shouldn't be illegal, as I stated in my previous post.

Molydeus

Dueling lags the *** out of areas that are already laggy as ***. Unnecessarily contributing to increased lag in major cities should be a crime. RPing doesn't lag a damn thing.

MythicEmperor

Molydeus wrote: »

Dueling lags the *** out of areas that are already laggy as ***. Unnecessarily contributing to increased lag in major cities should be a crime. RPing doesn't lag a damn thing.

It is better than people spamming abilities for no reason. Now, at least, there is a reason.

runagate

MythicEmperor wrote: »

Molydeus wrote: »

Dueling lags the *** out of areas that are already laggy as ***. Unnecessarily contributing to increased lag in major cities should be a crime. RPing doesn't lag a damn thing.

It is better than people spamming abilities for no reason. Now, at least, there is a reason.

That's true. But it does destroy the performance of people entering the subzone and should be moved away from the Undaunted Enclaves and towns. There's a huge world out there and people could simply duel at Hammerdeath.

Here's a compromise: in order to duel at an Enclave you have to duel me IRL first.

AFrostWolf

I would think from a lore perspective that guards want to keep order in town. That would mean no drunken brawls or fights in public. So dueling would be considered fighting and should incur a bounty.

ajwest927

They should make some areas duel free.

Prof_Bawbag

ZiRM wrote: »

I don't mind it adds life to the cities and game. Sometimes I just stop and watch, it's not my thing but to each their own. What gets to me is .. I have dueling invites set to off and when someone try's to duel me it auto declines them. Sometimes they whisper me or just say it in chat.. COWARD! I had a guy follow me around and moan about it in chat that I wouldn't duel him so I must be a coward blah blah blah. It's borderline harassment at a certain point. I don't like PvP and dueling, sue me... I don't complain about people that enjoy it.

@ZiRM Sometimes you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. I had a similar experience. Except I decided to take his bait and duel him. I beat him, he then accused me of being a srub etc, and that he'd floor me if I fought again. I did, with the same outcome. He then crawled away under some rock as he disappeared from the area.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

I cant really recall the last time I saw people dueling. Do people still do that?

And before you say yes, in every major town at the wayshrines!! Im standing at the Belkarth wayshrine for the last 30 mins... no dueling... sure Im just wildly lucky, and you like to wildly exaggerate.

SHADOW2KK

If duelling lags you out, then upgrade your crap rig.

People can do what they want, personally I cant stand RPers coming out with their crap in non private channels, but would I deprive them of doing what they wanna do in a game they paid for? nope.

Just because you do not like something, does not mean that everyone has to bow down to peoples selfish desires.

runagate

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

I cant really recall the last time I saw people dueling. Do people still do that?

And before you say yes, in every major town at the wayshrines!! Im standing at the Belkarth wayshrine for the last 30 mins... no dueling... sure Im just wildly lucky, and you like to wildly exaggerate.

Belkarth is pve people and crafters. Though I have to say that in AC one of my characters was permared, had no weapons or weapon skills and was my crafter. Getting ganked in town crafting is sure different from ESO!

All three Undaunted Enclaves have duelers near them most hours of the day.

Performance in Belkarth is so poor already I think if people dueled they'd get lynched. I hear people do this in newbietown (Rawlkha) and I'm stunned people don't freak out on them. I suppose people couldn't even log in there so perhaps it's just not noticeable among the other problems there.

JinMori

Dawnblade wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Or, you could just ignore it. Let them have their fun.

Duels cause performance issues with the spamming of abilities in crowded areas a key contributor to lag, as well as encourage players to congregate in areas that are already difficult if not impossible to reach / log into when crowded.

Duels should be restricted to non-town areas, baring that, the OPs idea to have guards arrest and cite players for dueling would be an improvement.

Keep that in mind when you join a zerg....

JinMori

This is the kind of post where you have a spoiled little brat asking to ruin the fun of other people because it bothers him, Role playing bothers me, make it illegal, *** off.

Woeler

I have a dream, that one day... people will get over it.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

runagate wrote: »

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

I cant really recall the last time I saw people dueling. Do people still do that?

And before you say yes, in every major town at the wayshrines!! Im standing at the Belkarth wayshrine for the last 30 mins... no dueling... sure Im just wildly lucky, and you like to wildly exaggerate.

Belkarth is pve people and crafters. Though I have to say that in AC one of my characters was permared, had no weapons or weapon skills and was my crafter. Getting ganked in town crafting is sure different from ESO!

All three Undaunted Enclaves have duelers near them most hours of the day.

Performance in Belkarth is so poor already I think if people dueled they'd get lynched. I hear people do this in newbietown (Rawlkha) and I'm stunned people don't freak out on them. I suppose people couldn't even log in there so perhaps it's just not noticeable among the other problems there.

That is why i move ld to wayrest after i wrote that. Still waiting for one...

Im not really fighting about it. Im sure it happens and im sure it is annoying. I just dont think it happens nearly as often or as much as people like to say.

alexkdd99

Lol, People always have to have something to complain about. Can't you find some other crap to make up and complain about?

The thing about mmo's is you can't control what everyone else does. If other people bother you that much then maybe you should play single player games.

JinMori

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Lol, People always have to have something to complain about. Can't you find some other crap to make up and complain about?

I separate the two things, Complaining can be good, this is whining.

phairdon

2-3 weeks back, one of my chars was in Rawl'kha. There were a lot of players in Rawl'kha that day, lots of dueling too. The lag was on the same scale as Cyrodiil during the weekends. Eventually my game froze, then crashed. Considering the performance issue, outlawing duels in main cities is not such a bad idea.
Need to state that I am not against duels. Unfortunately when multiple duels take place in highly populated area's, they severely hinder performance.

LordTareq

Yes prohibit duelling in cities. It hampers performance and is annoying as hell.

Berenhir

MythicEmperor wrote: »

Dueling wasn't made illegal in the U.S. until the 1800's. Why would it be illegal in a fantasy setting where slavery, murder (in the Morag Tong), and cannibalism are allowed? Furthermore, it wouldn't be lore friendly as you can duel Old Orcs in Skyrim, and legally at that. So no, OP.

Duelling was illegal in all civilised countries from the beginning of the 17th century onward though it was widely practiced by the nobilit. Duelling was already outlawed for Christians in 1200 sth.

Practically duelling became illegal with the introduction of general laws and was outlawed / forced underground with the gradual introduction of systematic law enforcement concepts. German students fought the last illegal saber duels in the 1940s, though a fatal outcome was already highly improbable at that time due to medical improvement and strict rules.

Izaki

The only time dueling *** me off is when I have a TG or DB contract there and I hit a neverending loadscreen because of the lag.

Fodore

Na it's cool

Sovaso

erm... what?.. why?

kevlarto_ESO

have watched a duel or two and yes the way they played was a crime LOL

phairdon

Weren't there designated area's created for dueling?

Integral1900

Excellent idea, someone implement it pronto

Dredlord

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I'm just as much bothered when I see people roleplay in chat, as you are when you see people duel.

Oh yes very clever, except its a mmoRPG (role playing game)

And not so much a mmoDTG (duel #ard game)

Just curious, do you go to Mcdonalds and get bothered they are selling hamburgers too?