PSA: Playtesters at ZOS this week

Ixtyr

Well this is cool. Hopefully they do more than one of these tests. If there aren't many EU folks, scheduling one longer in advance for a month from now could be really useful.

Ixy officially jealous.

Joy_Division

I don't supposed you invited someone that actually doesn't despise templars did you?

GilGalad

Zinaroth wrote: »

GilGalad wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

My first time on a plane, is for this. HYPE.

DschiPeunt wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DschiPeunt wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Eweroun wrote: »

are they all Americans, or also Europeans? ... cause, facing reality... Best players are on EUserver, no?

The selected players are from all over the world!

Can you let us know, who is coming? Would be interesting to know

We're leaving it up to each player to decide if they'd like to announce they're participating.

Good call, because even though you asked nicely, I imagine a lot of people would constantly attempt to pry info from them.

It's great to see this! Early feedback by those who understand the changes best.

Yeah, I understand this too. But on the other hand, I would also be good to see, if all aspects of the game are represented well. A lot of the best PvErs are on the EU server as an example and I was curious, if one of them was invited as well.
PvP is already covered, since Sypher tweeted he was going to ZOS studios

@DschiPeunt Don't fret, PvE is covered too.

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Hodor is historically the best raiding guild across both megaservers and all platforms, uncontested; to challenge that claim would be 'alternative facts'; and noone got invited from here.
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Beeing the loudest doesn't mean beeing the best...

GilGalad wrote: »

pretzl wrote: »

GilGalad wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

My first time on a plane, is for this. HYPE.

DschiPeunt wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DschiPeunt wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Eweroun wrote: »

are they all Americans, or also Europeans? ... cause, facing reality... Best players are on EUserver, no?

The selected players are from all over the world!

Can you let us know, who is coming? Would be interesting to know

We're leaving it up to each player to decide if they'd like to announce they're participating.

Good call, because even though you asked nicely, I imagine a lot of people would constantly attempt to pry info from them.

It's great to see this! Early feedback by those who understand the changes best.

Yeah, I understand this too. But on the other hand, I would also be good to see, if all aspects of the game are represented well. A lot of the best PvErs are on the EU server as an example and I was curious, if one of them was invited as well.
PvP is already covered, since Sypher tweeted he was going to ZOS studios

@DschiPeunt Don't fret, PvE is covered too.

[...]

Hodor is historically the best raiding guild across both megaservers and all platforms, uncontested; to challenge that claim would be 'alternative facts'; and noone got invited from here.
[...]

Beeing the loudest doesn't mean beeing the best...

In the sense of PvE raiding, it kinda does. All world #1 scores speaks for itself tbh.

Is Donald Trump the best because he ist the loudest? Having the most votes in the Electoral College speaks for itself huh?

Those are both stupid and non-suiting analogies... But I didn't come here to argue whether Hodor is the best raiding guild or not; we can let trial score and past achievements tell that tale - and then people can interpretate it however they want.

Let's not derail the thread.

Well this is about theorycrafting and when I look at some of @Alcast builds in the past, claiming stuff like mothers sorrow is BIS for templar, while proven to be wrong mathematically and in practice. And then there is his new Templar build for this update without a MSA staff "because it makes no difference". Show me the numbers pls that lead to this conclusion.

But maybe it will become the new meta if you tell it everyone and shout it out loud.

Shimmer

Guys....cant we just be happy for those invited? This is very awesome and I say bravo to ZOS for bringing in some actual players people know and trust, to help make the game better for everyone.

Cîanai

Sypher wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Will the players testing have an advantage over the world first completion of the new trial?

Even if we touch the trial it wouldn't mean too much. I think some of you are forgetting that the PTS receives content up to month before the live game gets it. So trial groups will practice their hearts out in PTS before it even hits live. Thus attaining the knowledge to complete the trial, before it goes live.

Correct me if I'm wrong!

Sorry, but if you really 'touch' the trial 4 months before all other raiding guilds, its a really big advantage just for a few people on the NA server. If ZOS care about competition in PvE they shouldn't let you try this new trial or the raiding community may feel betrayed.

Zinaroth

Cîanai wrote: »

pretzl wrote: »

GilGalad wrote: »

pretzl wrote: »

GilGalad wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

My first time on a plane, is for this. HYPE.

DschiPeunt wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DschiPeunt wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Eweroun wrote: »

are they all Americans, or also Europeans? ... cause, facing reality... Best players are on EUserver, no?

The selected players are from all over the world!

Can you let us know, who is coming? Would be interesting to know

We're leaving it up to each player to decide if they'd like to announce they're participating.

Good call, because even though you asked nicely, I imagine a lot of people would constantly attempt to pry info from them.

It's great to see this! Early feedback by those who understand the changes best.

Yeah, I understand this too. But on the other hand, I would also be good to see, if all aspects of the game are represented well. A lot of the best PvErs are on the EU server as an example and I was curious, if one of them was invited as well.
PvP is already covered, since Sypher tweeted he was going to ZOS studios

@DschiPeunt Don't fret, PvE is covered too.

[...]

Hodor is historically the best raiding guild across both megaservers and all platforms, uncontested; to challenge that claim would be 'alternative facts'; and noone got invited from here.
[...]

Beeing the loudest doesn't mean beeing the best...

In the sense of PvE raiding, it kinda does. All world #1 scores speaks for itself tbh.

Is Donald Trump the best because he ist the loudest? Having the most votes in the Electoral College speaks for itself huh?

He won fair and square because of how the voting process works in the US, therefore he is the #1 choice for president. Same applies here. We took all #1 scores, thus we're the #1 guild this patch ;D

#1 in this patch doesn't mean, that you are 'historically the best raiding guild across both megaservers and all platforms, uncontested'. That is just an alternativ fact and a disrespect to all other raiding guilds.

But tbh - this shouldn't be an argument in this thread.

Let's stop focusing on the fallos measuring, especially in this thread.

Khaos_Bane

Zinaroth wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Well I know where Xinthisis, SRIBES, Fengrush, Essa, Blobs, Alcast, Yolo Wizard, Gilliam and a few lesser known PvE'rs will be next few weeks.

This is progress! Never been so excited for anything ESO related in recent months. I can't wait to see the results, I'll come back to the game full time to PLAY the results. It's like Zenimax are taking the core game/game mechanics seriously. I hope they take battlegrounds seriously, hopefully they won't lag which is something that the playtesters will have to take into account playing on the internal servers.

Alcast and Yolo are both from Hodor and they were not invited.

It's a shame if Alcast was left out for PvE representation and trials. Maybe they are afraid of his potty mouth?

Khaos_Bane

MissBizz wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

My first time on a plane, is for this. HYPE.

DschiPeunt wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DschiPeunt wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Eweroun wrote: »

are they all Americans, or also Europeans? ... cause, facing reality... Best players are on EUserver, no?

The selected players are from all over the world!

Can you let us know, who is coming? Would be interesting to know

We're leaving it up to each player to decide if they'd like to announce they're participating.

Good call, because even though you asked nicely, I imagine a lot of people would constantly attempt to pry info from them.

It's great to see this! Early feedback by those who understand the changes best.

Yeah, I understand this too. But on the other hand, I would also be good to see, if all aspects of the game are represented well. A lot of the best PvErs are on the EU server as an example and I was curious, if one of them was invited as well.
PvP is already covered, since Sypher tweeted he was going to ZOS studios

DschiPeunt Don't fret, PvE is covered too.

@Gilliamtherogue Bring gum and chew it when going up/down to deal with ear popping

Glad @Gilliamtherogue is represented in the group ! Hope Deltia is as well.

Khaos_Bane

Joy_Division wrote: »

I don't supposed you invited someone that actually doesn't despise templars did you?

I can see @FENGRUSH having a conversation with @Wrobel about shrinking the Templars House !

olsborg

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

GeertKarel

They just choose the big streamers.
Good way to market their new upcomming expension.

Lets hope they give good feedback about the game and what really is expected.

Hope you picked some people that are actively raiding in pve / trial content.
Some pvpers just to checkout the new 4v4v4 mode where you fight over certain objectives aka battlegrounds.
And some roleplayers to go through allt he voice chat to see if the storylines / sidequests are somewhat interesting

Sypher

GeertKarel wrote: »

They just choose the big streamers.
Good way to market their new upcomming expension.

Lets hope they give good feedback about the game and what really is expected.

Hope you picked some people that are actively raiding in pve / trial content.
Some pvpers just to checkout the new 4v4v4 mode where you fight over certain objectives aka battlegrounds.
And some roleplayers to go through allt he voice chat to see if the storylines / sidequests are somewhat interesting

I believe most of the people aren't just streamers. I don't know everyone that is going but I can assure you they diversified their selections which means different perspectives and better feedback

Mojmir

So if morrowind is bad,zos wants us to blame the testers. Lol

Oompuh

Was anyone from EU invited? Maybe from the Top Raid guilds?

Blobsky

olsborg wrote: »

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

I'm not invited, the others are

Acrolas

As somebody who had to read entirely too much John W. Creswell in college, I'll never disagree that cherry-picking your subjects for any qualitative study - or quantitative for that matter - is a bad idea.

A small knowledge prerequisite is fine so you're choosing people who are willing and able to provide productive feedback. But to choose "some of our top theorycrafters" means they already had a results bias before the testing even began.

silky_soft

@ZOS_GinaBruno if you didn't invite vazan from tkg. You are missing out on group pvp top theory crafter

WillhelmBlack

Zinaroth wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Well I know where Xinthisis, SRIBES, Fengrush, Essa, Blobs, Alcast, Yolo Wizard, Gilliam and a few lesser known PvE'rs will be next few weeks.

This is progress! Never been so excited for anything ESO related in recent months. I can't wait to see the results, I'll come back to the game full time to PLAY the results. It's like Zenimax are taking the core game/game mechanics seriously. I hope they take battlegrounds seriously, hopefully they won't lag which is something that the playtesters will have to take into account playing on the internal servers.

Alcast and Yolo are both from Hodor and they were not invited.

Well that's ****

StackonClown

olsborg wrote: »

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

What about Andy S ??? where are his fans? but i think he never spoke in his youtubes so maybe some issue there ?

Also, Streak2g maybe.....

Molec

As said in another thread that was instantly deleted by ZOS:

"This is nothing but posturing: They invite popular and vocal ESO celebs to "Playtest" to make you believe that the community have a say in the game, all whilst stealth buffing the TOS and giving the middle finger to long term subscribers by charging them the price of the base game at release for content compairable to the first PVE DLC with an added class that was removed after the first beta. £40 for the base "Morrowind" or £100 for the "Collectors Edition"". Who would have seriously paid £100 for the collectors edition of Orsinium? This shii is getting out of hand!

Cîanai

Blobsky wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

I'm not invited, the others are

But Yolo and other Hodor(ians?) said, that Alcast isn't invited as well. I guess they just choose some NA players, because there is no single EU player confirmed.

Calboy

Holy crap the egos in this thread make for a good read. Also did anyone take into consideration the console players who don't have any access to pts and also get the patch after pc when thinking about world firsts?

Oompuh

Cîanai wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

I'm not invited, the others are

But Yolo and other Hodor(ians?) said, that Alcast isn't invited as well. I guess they just choose some NA players, because there is no single EU player confirmed.

EU Voices Matter

Zinaroth

Calboy wrote: »

Holy crap the egos in this thread make for a good read. Also did anyone take into consideration the console players who don't have any access to pts and also get the patch after pc when thinking about world firsts?

Consoles have no access to addons and more sluggish controls - it simply would never be a fair contest to begin with.
Don't see how we even, practically, could take it into consideration. Not sure what you are suggesting?

LrdRahvin

Molec wrote: »

As said in another thread that was instantly deleted by ZOS:

"This is nothing but posturing: They invite popular and vocal ESO celebs to "Playtest" to make you believe that the community have a say in the game, all whilst stealth buffing the TOS and giving the middle finger to long term subscribers by charging them the price of the base game at release for content compairable to the first PVE DLC with an added class that was removed after the first beta. £40 for the base "Morrowind" or £100 for the "Collectors Edition"". Who would have seriously paid £100 for the collectors edition of Orsinium? This shii is getting out of hand!

Yeah I posted in that other thread and since it went :poof:, gonna post it again here:


This game is too far gone for me to care about any of this anymore.

Blobsky

Zinaroth wrote: »

Calboy wrote: »

Holy crap the egos in this thread make for a good read. Also did anyone take into consideration the console players who don't have any access to pts and also get the patch after pc when thinking about world firsts?

Consoles have no access to addons and more sluggish controls - it simply would never be a fair contest to begin with.
Don't see how we even, practically, could take it into consideration. Not sure what you are suggesting?

Cîanai wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

I'm not invited, the others are

But Yolo and other Hodor(ians?) said, that Alcast isn't invited as well. I guess they just choose some NA players, because there is no single EU player confirmed.

Yeah but that makes his point moot; that everyone gets to go but him - so let's just conveniently not take that into consideration.

What point? I am simply replying to my name being tagged in brute honesty. I am interested though - I have been told Alcaast was invited, no idea if that is true or not but the people who said this to me are going. Isn't Woeler EU? Either way I know of one other EU player going too, so EU is represented.

Cherryblossom

I would imagine with the difficulty getting a VISA for the US now, its unlikely anyone will be going from outside world

This must be embarrassing for Wrobel, it's like saying he has no idea lets get some amateurs in, they can't do a worse job!!

Although unless they can fix the Lag in the Game, doesn't make any difference what changes are made to balance if you can't use your skills!

Cîanai

Blobsky wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Calboy wrote: »

Holy crap the egos in this thread make for a good read. Also did anyone take into consideration the console players who don't have any access to pts and also get the patch after pc when thinking about world firsts?

Consoles have no access to addons and more sluggish controls - it simply would never be a fair contest to begin with.
Don't see how we even, practically, could take it into consideration. Not sure what you are suggesting?

Cîanai wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

I'm not invited, the others are

But Yolo and other Hodor(ians?) said, that Alcast isn't invited as well. I guess they just choose some NA players, because there is no single EU player confirmed.

Yeah but that makes his point moot; that everyone gets to go but him - so let's just conveniently not take that into consideration.

Isn't Woeler EU?

Woeler is EU but not invited ^^

Zinaroth

Blobsky wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Calboy wrote: »

Holy crap the egos in this thread make for a good read. Also did anyone take into consideration the console players who don't have any access to pts and also get the patch after pc when thinking about world firsts?

Consoles have no access to addons and more sluggish controls - it simply would never be a fair contest to begin with.
Don't see how we even, practically, could take it into consideration. Not sure what you are suggesting?

Cîanai wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

I'm not invited, the others are

But Yolo and other Hodor(ians?) said, that Alcast isn't invited as well. I guess they just choose some NA players, because there is no single EU player confirmed.

Yeah but that makes his point moot; that everyone gets to go but him - so let's just conveniently not take that into consideration.

What point? I am simply replying to my name being tagged in brute honesty. I am interested though - I have been told Alcaast was invited, no idea if that is true or not but the people who said this to me are going. Isn't Woeler EU? Either way I know of one other EU player going too, so EU is represented.

I am glad that some people in EU were invited, I hope these people come forth.

Blobsky

Zinaroth wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Calboy wrote: »

Holy crap the egos in this thread make for a good read. Also did anyone take into consideration the console players who don't have any access to pts and also get the patch after pc when thinking about world firsts?

Consoles have no access to addons and more sluggish controls - it simply would never be a fair contest to begin with.
Don't see how we even, practically, could take it into consideration. Not sure what you are suggesting?

Cîanai wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Its cool that they do this, as long as @Sypher , @Blobsky and @Alcast, @FENGRUSH is there, Im fairly sure they will get good feedback that covers most if not all of players concerns/issues.

I'm not invited, the others are

But Yolo and other Hodor(ians?) said, that Alcast isn't invited as well. I guess they just choose some NA players, because there is no single EU player confirmed.

Yeah but that makes his point moot; that everyone gets to go but him - so let's just conveniently not take that into consideration.

What point? I am simply replying to my name being tagged in brute honesty. I am interested though - I have been told Alcaast was invited, no idea if that is true or not but the people who said this to me are going. Isn't Woeler EU? Either way I know of one other EU player going too, so EU is represented.

I am glad that some people in EU were invited, I hope these people come forth.

Alcast was not invited, don't know who told you that.

Weird, 3 of the people going told me he will also be there...

I guess he wants to keep it private for whatever reason, so any ZOS staff feel free to remove sentences where I talk about Alcast please!