Mathiisen Manor's Multitude of Tables

Totes-Bode

This is a lineup of the same-sized tables that Mathiisen Manor comes with, when you buy the manor Furnished. These tables are small, and can fit one chair. Unless you are making a schoolhouse, do you feel, as I do, that perhaps the number of these tables should be reduced, and they could be replaced with some other furnishings? For instance, a single Grand-sized table could replace quite a few of these? IMHO it is fairly useless to have so many of this size. There are 14 of these tables on this property.

MLGProPlayer

Those are actually the biggest tables in the game (they're supposed to be dinner tables, lol).

And although that is a lot of tables, that house is also positively massive and needs to be filled up with something.

Elara_Northwind

wow, 14 tables? That is crazy I have found the Altmer tables to be very small, which is odd because you would think that of all of the races, they would get a bigger one... The Orcs get a HUGE dinner table! You can, however, place 2 beside one another, end to end, and use a Breton tablecloth between them to cover the gap to make a longer one Might look a bit strange with 14 though lol idk why they ever thought that was a good idea!?

Totes-Bode

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Those are actually the biggest tables in the game (they're supposed to be dinner tables, lol).

And although that is a lot of tables, that house is also positively massive and needs to be filled up with something.

They're really not. As I said, they fit one chair. Four of them together make the Grand table. A positively massive house like Mathiisen Manor should have at least one chandelier, and it comes with none.

NightbladeMechanics

I remember being thoroughly unimpressed with this manor.

No view, cramped rooms, claustrophobic feeling inside and out, and now tiny tables. lol

MLGProPlayer

Totes-Bode wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Those are actually the biggest tables in the game (they're supposed to be dinner tables, lol).

And although that is a lot of tables, that house is also positively massive and needs to be filled up with something.

They're really not. As I said, they fit one chair. Four of them together make the Grand table. A positively massive house like Mathiisen Manor should have at least one chandelier, and it comes with none.

Orc and Redguard are the only racial styles with grand tables. This is the biggest size in the altmer style.

There is also no altmer chandalier asset in the game, hence why the house doesn't have one.

ZOS is only using furnishings that are available in the specific race's style. This sucks because some races have more furniture assets than others.

It doesn't look like ZOS has any plans to add new furniture assets to the game. They'te just using what's already in the game.

Totes-Bode

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Totes-Bode wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Those are actually the biggest tables in the game (they're supposed to be dinner tables, lol).

And although that is a lot of tables, that house is also positively massive and needs to be filled up with something.

They're really not. As I said, they fit one chair. Four of them together make the Grand table. A positively massive house like Mathiisen Manor should have at least one chandelier, and it comes with none.

Orc and Redguard are the only racial styles with grand tables. This is the biggest size in the altmer style.

Perhaps the developers could work a miracle, and nail some virtual wood together, or magic up such a thing in the woodworking station for the High Elves.

MLGProPlayer

Totes-Bode wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Totes-Bode wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Those are actually the biggest tables in the game (they're supposed to be dinner tables, lol).

And although that is a lot of tables, that house is also positively massive and needs to be filled up with something.

They're really not. As I said, they fit one chair. Four of them together make the Grand table. A positively massive house like Mathiisen Manor should have at least one chandelier, and it comes with none.

Orc and Redguard are the only racial styles with grand tables. This is the biggest size in the altmer style.

Perhaps the developers could work a miracle, and nail some virtual wood together, or magic up such a thing in the woodworking station for the High Elves.

I wish, but ZOS serms content with just recycling existing assets.

Danikat

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Totes-Bode wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Those are actually the biggest tables in the game (they're supposed to be dinner tables, lol).

And although that is a lot of tables, that house is also positively massive and needs to be filled up with something.

They're really not. As I said, they fit one chair. Four of them together make the Grand table. A positively massive house like Mathiisen Manor should have at least one chandelier, and it comes with none.

Orc and Redguard are the only racial styles with grand tables. This is the biggest size in the altmer style.

There is also no altmer chandalier asset in the game, hence why the house doesn't have one.

ZOS is only using furnishings that are available in the specific race's style. This sucks because some races have more furniture assets than others.

It doesn't look like ZOS has any plans to add new furniture assets to the game. They'te just using what's already in the game.

If any race was going to have limited furniture options it would be the altmer who don't like new things or change or foreign influences.

Which doesn't make it any better for players but it does make sense from a lore perspective. I can just imagine one of them previewing the other houses and making loud comments about how there certainly wouldn't have been any tables that big in Aldmeris so there's clearly no need for them now and the redguard and orcs are simply showing off, or trying to compensate for something.

I have to admit though that's one house I like which I definitely wouldn't buy furnished. I really want one (maybe 2) of my characters to live on Auridon and I think the house and grounds are beautiful, but furnished it's a bit...bland. I think I'd end up replacing, or adding to, a lot of it so unless furnished houses are surprisingly cheap relative to unfurnished I'd be better off buying furniture separately.

Elara_Northwind

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Totes-Bode wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Those are actually the biggest tables in the game (they're supposed to be dinner tables, lol).

And although that is a lot of tables, that house is also positively massive and needs to be filled up with something.

They're really not. As I said, they fit one chair. Four of them together make the Grand table. A positively massive house like Mathiisen Manor should have at least one chandelier, and it comes with none.

Orc and Redguard are the only racial styles with grand tables. This is the biggest size in the altmer style.

There is also no altmer chandalier asset in the game, hence why the house doesn't have one.

ZOS is only using furnishings that are available in the specific race's style. This sucks because some races have more furniture assets than others.

It doesn't look like ZOS has any plans to add new furniture assets to the game. They'te just using what's already in the game.

There actually is an Altmer chandelier, but it is big and bulky, and doesn't have that elegant feel to it that you would expect... It also has a strange lighting effect, which glows blue. It takes any warm and 'cozy' feel right out of the room

I too was disappointed by this house, it was the one I wanted to buy initially, but it is not the Altmer decor that put me off, I will be buying unfurnished and there is a multitude of things you can do to make any space look pretty by mixing and matching things, but it is more so to do with the huge raised border around each room on the ground floor which prevents you from placing any large furniture, such as beds, against the downstairs walls without some sort of weird clipping... This instantly made me forget about this house as anything I would spend money on, as for me, designing and decorating my home is of utmost importance, and this fact alone takes away any creativity for me

MLGProPlayer

SadieJoan wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Totes-Bode wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Those are actually the biggest tables in the game (they're supposed to be dinner tables, lol).

And although that is a lot of tables, that house is also positively massive and needs to be filled up with something.

They're really not. As I said, they fit one chair. Four of them together make the Grand table. A positively massive house like Mathiisen Manor should have at least one chandelier, and it comes with none.

Orc and Redguard are the only racial styles with grand tables. This is the biggest size in the altmer style.

There is also no altmer chandalier asset in the game, hence why the house doesn't have one.

ZOS is only using furnishings that are available in the specific race's style. This sucks because some races have more furniture assets than others.

It doesn't look like ZOS has any plans to add new furniture assets to the game. They'te just using what's already in the game.

There actually is an Altmer chandelier, but it is big and bulky, and doesn't have that elegant feel to it that you would expect... It also has a strange lighting effect, which glows blue. It takes any warm and 'cozy' feel right out of the room

I too was disappointed by this house, it was the one I wanted to buy initially, but it is not the Altmer decor that put me off, I will be buying unfurnished and there is a multitude of things you can do to make any space look pretty by mixing and matching things, but it is more so to do with the huge raised border around each room on the ground floor which prevents you from placing any large furniture, such as beds, against the downstairs walls without some sort of weird clipping... This instantly made me forget about this house as anything I would spend money on, as for me, designing and decorating my home is of utmost importance, and this fact alone takes away any creativity for me

Glad I'm not the only one who was put off by those stupid raised tiles. The house in general is poorly designed (endless hallways yet no living spaces, except those two rooms).

The house also desperately needs a back door since all the outdoor space is at the back.

Danikat

There's very few houses that are divided into rooms. The only ones which do it consistently are the dunmer houses (except Ebonheart Chateau). There are some others - from memory the medium altmer house, large imperial house, and of course the bosmer ones which are a series of pods. But in most of them the inside space is just one big open area. Maybe there will be pillars or slightly wider and narrower sections to suggest rooms and corridors but very few actual walls.

It's kind of funny to me because just before this patch hit the PTS there was a topic on the Guild Wars 2 forum where someone was complaining that all the buildings in that game are horribly cramped and should be re-designed to mimic ESO's much nicer style of big open rooms. Then the patch hit and loads of people are upset that the houses we can buy are all big open spaces with few/no interior walls. (GW2 does have very small rooms for a 3rd person game with a movable camera. It's more realistic but it means you're forced into an over-the-shoulder view and I think most people normally have it zoomed further out.) I find it interesting how different attitudes can be to something as simple as interior walls in virtual buildings.

I've found it's helpful to preview the houses furnished, because seeing how the developers lay out furniture gives me a sense of how they see the space being used, what they consider to be a 'room' and how they create a sense of distinct areas without walls. It gives me ideas I can use in my own house. I also have to keep reminding myself that these are not supposed to be modern houses - there are no bathrooms, only the biggest would have separate kitchen and dining rooms and a lot of activity would probably be focused in a multi-purpose 'common room'.

Alternatively (or in addition to the above) there's always the option of building your own walls. Although this is easier/cheaper in certain styles of houses. For example in an orc house you can just about get away with using the orc style platforms to build wooden 'walls' but that would look completely out of place in an altmer house where tapastries would probably be more appropriate. But it can be done, and with a bit of experimentation it can be done with relatively few objects which is good so you don't use up your limit on walls.

code65536

If you preview Daggerfall Overlook, you'll see that their grand dining room tables are actually just 4 small tables put together.