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[VIDEO] Haxus - Episode 4 Praise O'Ticksus (460k ap/h)

  • Lexxypwns
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    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
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    Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

    Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

    I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

    It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

    ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.
    Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...
    Yes it is, yes it is. If you need any help with the calculations please let me know.
    Let me put easy for that seemingly small brain of yours: 6 times bigger = x6 which means that by your obviously flawed logic 4x6=10. Bigger by 6, not 6 times bigger, smartass. Did you people even graduate lmfao, I bet you have no idea what the order of operations is.

    Oh and in case you try to defend your intelligence, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia:
    "For example, 4 multiplied by 3 (often written as
    3×4, and said as "3 times 4") can be calculated by adding 3 copies of 4 together:"

    except that we're dealing with circles.

    4m radius on VD 10m radius on Eye.

    A =πr^2

    50.24m area of effect for VD(centered around a dead opponent)
    ~314m aoe for Eye(centered on caster)

    that's 6x, for your small brain. This is all without taking into account that VD won't kill you through los
    http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/vol2/circle_area.html

    Great video btw haxus, always nice to see you guys work.
    Edited by Lexxypwns on January 16, 2017 5:39PM
  • Blackfyre20
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    Subversus wrote: »
    Let me put easy for that seemingly small brain of yours: 6 times bigger = x6 which means that by your obviously flawed logic 4x6=10. Bigger by 6, not 6 times bigger, smartass. Did you people even graduate lmfao, I bet you have no idea what the order of operations is.

    Oh and in case you try to defend your intelligence, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia:
    "For example, 4 multiplied by 3 (often written as
    3×4, and said as "3 times 4") can be calculated by adding 3 copies of 4 together:"

    Don't have a dog in this fight but this is hilarious. "Did you people even graduate" coupled with the wikipedia reference is LOL funny. I'm not going to give you the answer but think about what you're saying, realize your mistake, and then go back and erase this comment to try and save some face before too many people see it. Hint: the area is indeed 6x larger as @Bashev pointed out
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  • Satiar
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    zyk wrote: »
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    The proxy det was nerfed not that the players adapted to it. Now if the fight was not in an outpost where the mechanics is stack on flag to flip the post I can agree that their enemies were stupid and run in their ulties. I dont know how anyone can defend this ulti as it is so clear that it is super OP compared (in lagre groups scenarios) to the other ulties in the game.

    Proxy det was nerfed against small groups. I do not recall precisely how the new version compares to the old, but I seem to recall it does about the same damage vs six targets and its damage continues to scale up to 10 to do more damage than before. Proxy det became less of an issue because the playerbase adapted.

    Yes, you have to stack on the flag to capture the objective, but it does not need to be while destro ults are going off. It is an expensive ult. As someone who sometimes runs in a group using the destro ult, I can tell you that every good group largely avoids destro ult bombs.

    It is defended against by not standing in it. It's as simple as that. Anticipate. Be mobile. Use available mitigation tools. Spread out. Tab target and burst down the glass bombers. Haxus can't chase 40 players down if they spread out in different directions.

    What is actually OP is organized play vs mobs of randoms and unorganized groups. I hope that is never nerfed. However, I would like to see more incentive for the best groups to find each other more often.

    And i'll always maintain that an ultimate so strong that it's only reliable counterplay is "scatter and run" is overtuned. As a group, many of my bombs went from coordinating 10 offensive ults at once to rotating groups of 2 or even 1 destro ults, that's how good it is.
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    So... did you even graduate?
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  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Only just seen your comment from @CarlosO 's quote don't know why I missed it before :p

    Whilst hilarious it is somewhat misleading and I wouldn't want poor Carlos to use his villages bandwidth without a correct representation of the video.

    Sap has a rather large range and you might be able to see, given your assumed knowledge of nightblade mechanics that it is actually connecting with a target each time. Additionally I miss fear once after the first flash transition (as the target charges out from my range, eu latency and all.) Whilst at low health shortly after you mention I don't attempt to shield. This is due to negate. Negate is a sorc skill which prevents magicka abilities from being used (I wasn't sure on your level of sorc mechanics) which is why I am slightly blocking as although as you correctly state eots cannot be most other abilities can so whilst at low health and having just cc broken I can afford to waste some stam to stay alive and keep leading.

    To ease your worries the segments I cut were simply running / regrouping for a few moments as I wanted to fit the clips within the 2 songs. Nothing suspicious unfortunately :) I was sad you didn't mention Alfred the brave dwemer sphere tank though.
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  • zyk
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    Satiar wrote: »
    And i'll always maintain that an ultimate so strong that it's only reliable counterplay is "scatter and run" is overtuned. As a group, many of my bombs went from coordinating 10 offensive ults at once to rotating groups of 2 or even 1 destro ults, that's how good it is.

    I can only speak from my experience and I am super casual. But...

    When I'm zerg surfing open field, this ult usually isn't killing me, even when I'm focused on by a someone using it.

    In my experience using it, it's really easy to melt mobs of randoms and pugs, but not so easy against strong groups unless you catch them sleeping. It's shocking how slow many players are to react to it.

    In group play, my group has experiences similar to those seen in this video when fighting similar opponents. So much melty.

    But when we face a group similar to ours or a very tanky group like TKG, it isn't usually a fast encounter unless one side is caught off guard or has poor group composition at that time. They can be long, fun fights with each group surviving the bombs of the other. Sometimes it is a stalemate. If we were only fighting each other, I think we might use a greater variety of ults.

    Edited by zyk on January 16, 2017 6:24PM
  • Tower_Of_Shame
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    @Subversus

    So... did you even graduate?

    You also fell for this.
    Hint: Encase vs Talons

    Just joking ofc :)
  • Lexxypwns
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    Still waiting on @subversus to get in here and apologize for being uneducated AF
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

    Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

    I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

    It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

    ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.
    Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...
    Yes it is, yes it is. If you need any help with the calculations please let me know.
    Let me put easy for that seemingly small brain of yours: 6 times bigger = x6 which means that by your obviously flawed logic 4x6=10. Bigger by 6, not 6 times bigger, smartass. Did you people even graduate lmfao, I bet you have no idea what the order of operations is.

    Oh and in case you try to defend your intelligence, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia:
    "For example, 4 multiplied by 3 (often written as
    3×4, and said as "3 times 4") can be calculated by adding 3 copies of 4 together:"

    except that we're dealing with circles.

    4m radius on VD 10m radius on Eye.

    A =πr^2

    50.24m area of effect for VD(centered around a dead opponent)
    ~314m aoe for Eye(centered on caster)

    that's 6x, for your small brain. This is all without taking into account that VD won't kill you through los
    http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/vol2/circle_area.html

    Great video btw haxus, always nice to see you guys work.

    @Lexxypwns thanks for the explanation. I know that math is not for everyone.
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    @Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO I bet Alfred goes unappreciated every time!!
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

    Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

    I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

    It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

    ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.
    Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...
    Yes it is, yes it is. If you need any help with the calculations please let me know.
    Let me put easy for that seemingly small brain of yours: 6 times bigger = x6 which means that by your obviously flawed logic 4x6=10. Bigger by 6, not 6 times bigger, smartass. Did you people even graduate lmfao, I bet you have no idea what the order of operations is.

    Oh and in case you try to defend your intelligence, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia:
    "For example, 4 multiplied by 3 (often written as
    3×4, and said as "3 times 4") can be calculated by adding 3 copies of 4 together:"

    except that we're dealing with circles.

    4m radius on VD 10m radius on Eye.

    A =πr^2

    50.24m area of effect for VD(centered around a dead opponent)
    ~314m aoe for Eye(centered on caster)

    that's 6x, for your small brain. This is all without taking into account that VD won't kill you through los
    http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/vol2/circle_area.html

    Great video btw haxus, always nice to see you guys work.

    @Lexxypwns thanks for the explanation. I know that math is not for everyone.

    That's why I included the little work sheet, this way people can practice before they come to the forums and suggest that we didn't finish high school. Next time maybe he can come with some real math instead.
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    @Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO I bet Alfred goes unappreciated every time!!

    Not by ZOS who even chose to nerf him so that he can't help his allies in death any more....
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    @Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO I bet Alfred goes unappreciated every time!!

    Not by ZOS who even chose to nerf him so that he can't help his allies in death any more....

    RIP Alfred 2017, he never even got gud.
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    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

    Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

    I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

    It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

    ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.
    Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...
    Yes it is, yes it is. If you need any help with the calculations please let me know.
    Let me put easy for that seemingly small brain of yours: 6 times bigger = x6 which means that by your obviously flawed logic 4x6=10. Bigger by 6, not 6 times bigger, smartass. Did you people even graduate lmfao, I bet you have no idea what the order of operations is.

    Oh and in case you try to defend your intelligence, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia:
    "For example, 4 multiplied by 3 (often written as
    3×4, and said as "3 times 4") can be calculated by adding 3 copies of 4 together:"

    this is triggering how few people know basic math. he is talking about the area that the ultimate covers. all pbaoes are circles. the area of a circles equals pi(3.14...) * r² where r is the radius of the circle. so if vd has a radius of 4m then it is going to be pi*4²(16). so 3.14*16=50.24. now lets take destro ult, which has a radius of 10m so 3.14*10²(100) is 314. therefore the area of destro ult is 6x that of vd. now back to your regularly programmed forum qq.

    edit: damn solar beat me to it QQ. maybe i should 1 up his website and put a khan academy video up on here to try and explain it xD
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    Edited by asneakybanana on January 16, 2017 8:45PM
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    Yup Nickel was definitely juicy, and also offered some unintended epic sandwiches lol.

    Good video!
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    Dude Khan Academy is the best.
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  • josh.lackey_ESO
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    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    Actually we are generally killing other organised groups (I'd said they are my main target because they are the only opportunity for challenge in the game). The fact that most of them also stack with uncoordinated players is their choice/the choice of those uncoordinated players. You can call it collateral damage.

    Players love to band about the terms toxic and cancer when it comes to builds, gear, skills, playstyles and basically everything else which makes up the game everyone is playing. The truth of the matter that the only thing toxic is the players who are labelling these things. Gaming is generally about competition and enjoyment and I agree that certain things can restrict these 2 core principles for an individual whilst promoting it for another however everyone is guided by what ZOS implements and that's the end of it.

    As an aside please enjoy the next video ;)

    https://youtu.be/PZhsY34EqpA
    Edited by Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO on January 17, 2017 12:10PM
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  • Wollust
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

    Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

    I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

    It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

    ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.
    Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...
    Yes it is, yes it is. If you need any help with the calculations please let me know.
    Let me put easy for that seemingly small brain of yours: 6 times bigger = x6 which means that by your obviously flawed logic 4x6=10. Bigger by 6, not 6 times bigger, smartass. Did you people even graduate lmfao, I bet you have no idea what the order of operations is.

    Oh and in case you try to defend your intelligence, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia:
    "For example, 4 multiplied by 3 (often written as
    3×4, and said as "3 times 4") can be calculated by adding 3 copies of 4 together:"

    except that we're dealing with circles.

    4m radius on VD 10m radius on Eye.

    A =πr^2

    50.24m area of effect for VD(centered around a dead opponent)
    ~314m aoe for Eye(centered on caster)

    that's 6x, for your small brain. This is all without taking into account that VD won't kill you through los
    http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/vol2/circle_area.html

    Great video btw haxus, always nice to see you guys work.

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  • Darnathian
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    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    To be fair against other guilds if you dont use whats best your dead. So ya destro ults is king

    However..... posting videos of farming pugs is thier mo. Not really impressed or entertained.

    Post the videos of farming khole Sneaky was bragging about please. Or any fights against other guilds for that matter.

  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Darnathian wrote: »
    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    To be fair against other guilds if you dont use whats best your dead. So ya destro ults is king

    However..... posting videos of farming pugs is thier mo. Not really impressed or entertained.

    Post the videos of farming khole Sneaky was bragging about please. Or any fights against other guilds for that matter.

    see the last vid I posted might have something of the thing you are looking for unless you want to see pure gvg style. It's uncut so you get to see the whole fight :)

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  • asneakybanana
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    Darnathian wrote: »
    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    To be fair against other guilds if you dont use whats best your dead. So ya destro ults is king

    However..... posting videos of farming pugs is thier mo. Not really impressed or entertained.

    Post the videos of farming khole Sneaky was bragging about please. Or any fights against other guilds for that matter.

    if you want to see us farming an organized guild with equal or greater numbers go nihilos' last video showcasing some hagnado fights, just need to get through the 2 or 3 mins of 3 man bridge farms first. wiping khole isnt super impressive though since we usually outnumber them by about 4 so it isnt exactly fair fights. Im sure somewhere you can also find a video of us fighting fantasia or ve far outnumbered and still wiping them. That said i would rather watch a video of a guild fighting 100+ pugs through chokes than them repeatedly wiping the same 2-3 guilds over and over.
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  • NightbladeMechanics
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    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    Actually we are generally killing other organised groups (I'd said they are my main target because they are the only opportunity for challenge in the game).

    ......

    You can't possibly be serious.
    Edited by NightbladeMechanics on January 17, 2017 3:26PM
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  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    Actually we are generally killing other organised groups (I'd said they are my main target because they are the only opportunity for challenge in the game).

    ......

    You can't possibly be serious.

    You will have to elaborate on which part of the statement you disagree with
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  • DanTeales_Inferno
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Subversus wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

    Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

    I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

    It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

    ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.
    Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...
    Yes it is, yes it is. If you need any help with the calculations please let me know.
    Let me put easy for that seemingly small brain of yours: 6 times bigger = x6 which means that by your obviously flawed logic 4x6=10. Bigger by 6, not 6 times bigger, smartass. Did you people even graduate lmfao, I bet you have no idea what the order of operations is.

    Oh and in case you try to defend your intelligence, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia:
    "For example, 4 multiplied by 3 (often written as
    3×4, and said as "3 times 4") can be calculated by adding 3 copies of 4 together:"

    except that we're dealing with circles.

    4m radius on VD 10m radius on Eye.

    A =πr^2

    50.24m area of effect for VD(centered around a dead opponent)
    ~314m aoe for Eye(centered on caster)

    that's 6x, for your small brain. This is all without taking into account that VD won't kill you through los
    http://www.mathgoodies.com/lessons/vol2/circle_area.html

    Great video btw haxus, always nice to see you guys work.

    Dont forget the EotS goes upwards as well ! I dont know the height of the ultimate but to save @Subversus brain from melting we wont add 3d maths into this.
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  • Lexxypwns
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    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    Balling up is much more dangerous than you're giving them credit for. 3 or 4 synced destro ults and negate is all it takes to wipe a 15 man ball group. By balling up, what they're saying is that they're situational awareness and mobility is such that they can avoid a bomb almost completely, that takes a ton of balls in the current meta, imo. When there's 40 enemies at an outpost and you're running with 15, pugs or not, balling up is super dangerous, literally 3 or 4 players is all it takes to wipe a group this size, you take a colossal risk this patch if you choose to ball up like they do. The rewards outweigh the risk in a heavy pressure situation like this, but again, we're talking about a group that's small enough to get wiped by a small man group if they're caught balled up with their pants down.
    Edited by Lexxypwns on January 17, 2017 4:06PM
  • Rin_Senya
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    MLRPZ wrote: »
    @Rin_Senya Are you Grand Overlord on NA yet ? :hushed:
    MLRPZ wrote: »
    @Rin_Senya Are you Grand Overlord on NA yet ? :hushed:

    I think she will be the first to have GO on both servers, right?


    @MLRPZ @DisgracefulMind haha I guess I will be! :p Hopefully this spring, if I don't slack as much as I did the last couple of months.
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  • Rin_Senya
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    Darnathian wrote: »
    However..... posting videos of farming pugs is thier mo. Not really impressed or entertained.

    Post the videos of farming khole Sneaky was bragging about please. Or any fights against other guilds for that matter.

    We have a lot of videos of fighting organized groups lol (it's almost in every video that we post on forum)
    https://youtu.be/A6AgA_ye-xM

    As for me (and I know that many guildies share my point of view) the most interesting part of the game is fighting other organized groups. Simply because farming pugs is not challenging
    Edited by Rin_Senya on January 17, 2017 7:35PM
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  • Darnathian
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    Darnathian wrote: »
    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    To be fair against other guilds if you dont use whats best your dead. So ya destro ults is king

    However..... posting videos of farming pugs is thier mo. Not really impressed or entertained.

    Post the videos of farming khole Sneaky was bragging about please. Or any fights against other guilds for that matter.

    if you want to see us farming an organized guild with equal or greater numbers go nihilos' last video showcasing some hagnado fights, just need to get through the 2 or 3 mins of 3 man bridge farms first. wiping khole isnt super impressive though since we usually outnumber them by about 4 so it isnt exactly fair fights. Im sure somewhere you can also find a video of us fighting fantasia or ve far outnumbered and still wiping them. That said i would rather watch a video of a guild fighting 100+ pugs through chokes than them repeatedly wiping the same 2-3 guilds over and over.

    Thats the thing Sneaky. Its easy. I dont see other guilds spamming the forum with videos. I know its my fault for watching them. I just hope its gonna be some high level guild vrs guild.

    Love watching those seeing some of the decisions. Even better when they have the comms in them. Listening to the raid leader make calls and how they handle it

    Thats why i loved running with Crystal. Guy was always super calm and made great calls. If we messed up he didnt yell. Just made us do drills. Lol
  • Mako1132
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    Darnathian wrote: »
    Darnathian wrote: »
    If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

    In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

    Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

    Good vid, Izanerys.

    This kind of ball grouping is toxic, and it always has been. Abusing the heck out of mechanics ZOS unintentionally made broken with your buddies on discord/ts just to kill a bunch of uncoordinated, random people who are basically helpless to counter you... that's what is harmful to the community. It's shameful.

    I'd love to "mind my own business" on a server that didn't have these kind of lame guilds running around abusing broken skills, but unfortunately, there are none. So this kind of crappy gameplay directly affects me on more or less a daily basis. If it's not Haxus, it's some other guild doing the same garbage. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely not the only cancer that's plaguing Cyrodiil, but it's on the short list.

    Maybe I'm a minority, but I think finding the most broken mechanics every patch and min-maxing them to roll over people is a poor way to play the game. There are plenty of respectable players who won't run destro ult because it's so clearly broken. Too that bad being that respectable players doesn't extend include supposed "top-tier" pvp guilds.

    To be fair against other guilds if you dont use whats best your dead. So ya destro ults is king

    However..... posting videos of farming pugs is thier mo. Not really impressed or entertained.

    Post the videos of farming khole Sneaky was bragging about please. Or any fights against other guilds for that matter.

    if you want to see us farming an organized guild with equal or greater numbers go nihilos' last video showcasing some hagnado fights, just need to get through the 2 or 3 mins of 3 man bridge farms first. wiping khole isnt super impressive though since we usually outnumber them by about 4 so it isnt exactly fair fights. Im sure somewhere you can also find a video of us fighting fantasia or ve far outnumbered and still wiping them. That said i would rather watch a video of a guild fighting 100+ pugs through chokes than them repeatedly wiping the same 2-3 guilds over and over.

    Thats the thing Sneaky. Its easy. I dont see other guilds spamming the forum with videos. I know its my fault for watching them. I just hope its gonna be some high level guild vrs guild.

    Love watching those seeing some of the decisions. Even better when they have the comms in them. Listening to the raid leader make calls and how they handle it

    Thats why i loved running with Crystal. Guy was always super calm and made great calls. If we messed up he didnt yell. Just made us do drills. Lol

    You can't get high level guild vs guild in cyro because there's either going to be pugs or one side is going to outnumber the other. This is only possible in a controlled environment, and even then I think a lot of guilds would laugh at that in the current meta. Like OK, who hits R first guys?

    Yeah, LOL @ drills.
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