[VIDEO] Haxus - Episode 4 Praise O'Ticksus (460k ap/h)

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Episode 4: Praise O'Ticksus
https://youtu.be/eMAyJtzWDKI

Episode 3:
https://youtu.be/d75Wwsmk3yY

Episode 2.
https://youtu.be/PZhsY34EqpA

Episode 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGmTG0Tj7sM

I'm back from my Christmas/New Year holidays. Just sharing our Nikel fight from last night for those that missed it or wanted to see our PoV. Thanks to all the guys and girls in group for making it an awesome night to play and lead.
To the DC faction, thanks too for providing the AP

(Yes I have that addon, seeing numbers is nice )

Rin_Senya

Haha nice video Iza and awesome leading as usual!
Thanks to the Invictus guys too! Nikel was so juicy!

Minalan

Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

zyk

Minalan wrote: »

Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

NightbladeMechanics

I have transcribed this video as a service for @CarlosO, whose hamster wheel tribal internet connection cannot handle watching actual moving pictures.

Proxies up on queue, runs out of outpost with group, casts sap 4 times in a row, fears outside range of enemies, fears again inside range of enemies, sap sap, ruuuuuns back into outpost, cut scene.

Proxies up on queue, runs out of outpost ahead of group, casts EotS, casts 3 saps before getting in range of a target, one sap to kill a target an ally got low, another sap with no targets in range, oh man there are two DC off to the left, gap closes to them, immediate cut scene. I wonder what happened. No death appears on the kill counter, so that's good.

Proxies up with entire group standing right where those two DC were...RIP those two DC...buffs up, runs toward enemy, fears outside of range of targets, fears inside of range of targets, sap sap, runs directly into big red aoe damage toward outpost door, gets cced in said aoes, gets healed, breaks free, runs back to outpost not casting abilities while getting healed out of lethal range by other people 3 separate times, attempts to block destro ulti...still not casting that shield, sap sap sap, heads to back flag, promptly exits through door when DC push to back flag, cut scene.

Proxies up coming around the corner with group, casts EotS, shields, sap sap, stands on flag, kill counter ticks up by two, proxies up midfight (!), walks to back flag, allied destro ults, sap sap, that's a lot of EP......

Ok I must stop here, else @CarlosO would have to redirect the next village's bandwidth to load more text. Did you get a new bucket, @CarlosO? Careful to not get electrocuted sitting on that rusty metal one. Do you have tetanus shots in the jungle? The nearest hospital is 174 miles away by goat ride. Hopefully your tribe's medicine woman is closeby.

<shrug>

IxSTALKERxI

Nice work. I prefer prox det on back bar though. Not sure if you do that coz of your ping. I know what it's like playing with 300 ping lol.

asneakybanana

zyk wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

At some point in this battle I managed to chain 16 destro ults in a row. I think slow to learn is a bit of an understatement. It was just push one flag w/ destro, get it back push other flag w/ destro get it back, rinse and repeat over and over again. Was absolutely mental. Will be sad to see it be nerfed next patch QQ

@Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO awesome video as always and great pvp as well as leading last night

Foxic

I wish i could sap that well

MLRPZ

@Rin_Senya Are you Grand Overlord on NA yet ?

DisgracefulMind

MLRPZ wrote: »

@Rin_Senya Are you Grand Overlord on NA yet ?

I think she will be the first to have GO on both servers, right?


Great video, that looked sooo juicy xD

Thelon

smiff stole carlos' bucket

josh.lackey_ESO

This is not good pvp, this is trash. Ball zerg destro ult = broken. Abuse the mechanics, lag the server, and make Cyrodiil miserable. I'd be too ashamed to post a video of me and my guild doing something so atrocious, unless it was in a "ZOS, please fix this" context. Don't be eso cancer.

BFT88

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

This is not good pvp, this is trash. Ball zerg destro ult = broken. Abuse the mechanics, lag the server, and make Cyrodiil miserable. I'd be too ashamed to post a video of me and my guild doing something so atrocious, unless it was in a "ZOS, please fix this" context. Don't be eso cancer.

Another angry Tyro eaten by Eye of The Storm.

MLRPZ

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

MLRPZ wrote: »

@Rin_Senya Are you Grand Overlord on NA yet ?

I think she will be the first to have GO on both servers, right?


Great video, that looked sooo juicy xD

Yes she probably will be

ku5h

sap-sap-sap-sap-sap-fear-sap-sap-sap-sap-eots-fear-sap-sap-sap.....
Did i miss something?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

This is not good pvp, this is trash. Ball zerg destro ult = broken. Abuse the mechanics, lag the server, and make Cyrodiil miserable. I'd be too ashamed to post a video of me and my guild doing something so atrocious, unless it was in a "ZOS, please fix this" context. Don't be eso cancer.

Keep blaming the fire brigade for starting the fire you can see my ping in the video.

The server crashes are entirely unrelated to what's happening on the map until you get to the faction vs faction fights. This is nothing compared to the 260 ppl BRK last night.

If anything we are putting out the lag before it can start by making some of these faction balls respawn separately but each to their own

Thanks all, and yeh I'm sure @Rin_Senya will she's OP

K4RMA

whats your build

zyk

There's nothing overtly offensive about this video. It's a 15(?) player group fighting approx 3-4x its numbers. Whatever expectations you guys have about perfect execution of your favorite rotations isn't really applicable here. It's a completely different style of play that benefits from different skills.

This is strong medium group play. It's challenging to play that tight for that long against so many other players in lag.

They're not exploiting, nor are they killing the server with 15 players.

There is too much video thread crapping based on playstyle preferences.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

ku5h wrote: »

sap-sap-sap-sap-sap-fear-sap-sap-sap-sap-eots-fear-sap-sap-sap.....
Did i miss something?

You missed proxy, merciless resolve, siphoning attacks, dampen magicka, lotus fan and the occasional cloak + swallow soul .
That and group leading. Good try though

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

K4RMA wrote: »

whats your build

In this vid, grothdar+alch+vd standard setup but I use 5 alch on body because I cba to weapon swap every time I want to use a potion atm :P

Quantum_V

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

I have transcribed this video as a service for @CarlosO, whose hamster wheel tribal internet connection cannot handle watching actual moving pictures.

Proxies up on queue, runs out of outpost with group, casts sap 4 times in a row, fears outside range of enemies, fears again inside range of enemies, sap sap, ruuuuuns back into outpost, cut scene.

Proxies up on queue, runs out of outpost ahead of group, casts EotS, casts 3 saps before getting in range of a target, one sap to kill a target an ally got low, another sap with no targets in range, oh man there are two DC off to the left, gap closes to them, immediate cut scene. I wonder what happened. No death appears on the kill counter, so that's good.

Proxies up with entire group standing right where those two DC were...RIP those two DC...buffs up, runs toward enemy, fears outside of range of targets, fears inside of range of targets, sap sap, runs directly into big red aoe damage toward outpost door, gets cced in said aoes, gets healed, breaks free, runs back to outpost not casting abilities while getting healed out of lethal range by other people 3 separate times, attempts to block destro ulti...still not casting that shield, sap sap sap, heads to back flag, promptly exits through door when DC push to back flag, cut scene.

Proxies up coming around the corner with group, casts EotS, shields, sap sap, stands on flag, kill counter ticks up by two, proxies up midfight (!), walks to back flag, allied destro ults, sap sap, that's a lot of EP......

Ok I must stop here, else @CarlosO would have to redirect the next village's bandwidth to load more text. Did you get a new bucket, @CarlosO? Careful to not get electrocuted sitting on that rusty metal one. Do you have tetanus shots in the jungle? The nearest hospital is 174 miles away by goat ride. Hopefully your tribe's medicine woman is closeby.

<shrug>

Hahahhahahahahahah! Kena, dude, I'm crying right now. Hahahha! You made my day. Best comment NA. Hahahahha! the bandwidth stuff is so true it scares me!

Psilent

At work, so can't watch the video, but I'm assuming this is from Nikel on Saturday night. If so, yes, that was a lot of AP in a very short amount of time. Felt like DC sent the whole faction to reclaim Nikel and they just ran into the Outpost like it was only NPC guards; then just all died on the flags.

Made a killing of AP at Nikel Saturday night!

Bashev

zyk wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.

Subversus

Bashev wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.

Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...

Bashev

Subversus wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.

Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...

Yes it is, yes it is. If you need any help with the calculations please let me know.

Draxys

Subversus wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.

Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...

It is if you count by 1 6 times

zyk

Bashev wrote: »

ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.

My point was that the outrage about VD was mostly hype because once players adapted to it, it wasn't a big deal at all.

The same is true of the destro ult. Contrary to popular opinion, it can be avoided, mitigated and anticipated. If you can get that group to drop their destro ults with few or no KBs, they are then vulnerable. If everyone handled it as well as good groups do, it would become less popular.

We also saw the same learning curve with proxy det. How many months before players stopped funneling into choke points with a dozen red proxy circles within them?

heystreethawk

If you don't appreciate videos of a medium sized group wrecking their foes while wildly outnumbered, that's weird, but okay. You don't do group play, not of this kind, and there's probably something in the Internet Constitution that says you can do or not do whatever you want inside a videogame, within reason, as long as you're not a wiener about it.

In fact, it's your lucky day: there are actually way more threads featuring 1vX and small scale compilations than there are guild videos such as this one. You can park yourself in any one of those threads and high five the monitor for a while, peacefully celebrating the things that you consider cool, without popping off comments that make you sound like a furious anthropomorphic cheeto trying to start a rap battle with someone minding their own business in a library.

Trash talking a video in the thread for that video and vilifying a playstyle because... What, it's not what you're into? Man, that's bratty. That's obnoxious, and it's bad for the community. If you don't see the skill and coordination on display here, that doesn't have to be anyone's problem. But ranting about it in someone else's thread makes you sound as out of your element as a PvE'er complaining that PvP'ers are ruining the game because ZOS nerfed a set and now their raid is doing 2% less damage on trash mobs in Maw. Mind your own business, and do your own thing.

Good vid, Izanerys.

Bashev

zyk wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.

My point was that the outrage about VD was mostly hype because once players adapted to it, it wasn't a big deal at all.

The same is true of the destro ult. Contrary to popular opinion, it can be avoided, mitigated and anticipated. If you can get that group to drop their destro ults with few or no KBs, they are then vulnerable. If everyone handled it as well as good groups do, it would become less popular.

We also saw the same learning curve with proxy det. How many months before players stopped funneling into choke points with a dozen red proxy circles within them?

The proxy det was nerfed not that the players adapted to it. Now if the fight was not in an outpost where the mechanics is stack on flag to flip the post I can agree that their enemies were stupid and run in their ulties. I dont know how anyone can defend this ulti as it is so clear that it is super OP compared (in lagre groups scenarios) to the other ulties in the game.

Subversus

Bashev wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Yay for stacked destro ult groups, and the great fun they've made out of Cyrodiil PVP?

Yet players keep charging into groups they know are running them. It's stunning. If you don't feed eots groups killing blows, they can't recharge their ults to rinse and repeat right away.

I do not love destro ult gameplay, but I think most of the reason it's so widely used is because players have been slow to adapt.

It's VD hype all over again. Players raged about it for months before they learned to adapt by spreading out better.

ZZZZ VD is 4m radius and EoTS is 10m. It is 6 time larger area and there is no line of sight or whatever. It hits through wall, doors, everything.

Don't really wanna get into this epeen contest but 10 is not 6 times larger than 4...

Yes it is, yes it is. If you need any help with the calculations please let me know.

Let me put easy for that seemingly small brain of yours: 6 times bigger = x6 which means that by your obviously flawed logic 4x6=10. Bigger by 6, not 6 times bigger, smartass. Did you people even graduate lmfao, I bet you have no idea what the order of operations is.

Oh and in case you try to defend your intelligence, here's a paragraph from Wikipedia:
"For example, 4 multiplied by 3 (often written as
3×4, and said as "3 times 4") can be calculated by adding 3 copies of 4 together:"

zyk

Bashev wrote: »

The proxy det was nerfed not that the players adapted to it. Now if the fight was not in an outpost where the mechanics is stack on flag to flip the post I can agree that their enemies were stupid and run in their ulties. I dont know how anyone can defend this ulti as it is so clear that it is super OP compared (in lagre groups scenarios) to the other ulties in the game.

Proxy det was nerfed against small groups. I do not recall precisely how the new version compares to the old, but I seem to recall it does about the same damage vs six targets and its damage continues to scale up to 10 to do more damage than before. Proxy det became less of an issue because the playerbase adapted.

Yes, you have to stack on the flag to capture the objective, but it does not need to be while destro ults are going off. It is an expensive ult. As someone who sometimes runs in a group using the destro ult, I can tell you that every good group largely avoids destro ult bombs.

It is defended against by not standing in it. It's as simple as that. Anticipate. Be mobile. Use available mitigation tools. Spread out. Tab target and burst down the glass bombers. Haxus can't chase 40 players down if they spread out in different directions.

What is actually OP is organized play vs mobs of randoms and unorganized groups. I hope that is never nerfed. However, I would like to see more incentive for the best groups to find each other more often.