EP Calls for Aid (PC/NA TF)

Rohamad_Ali

NACtron wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.

Why AD often finds themselves getting doubled teamed
1. AD usually gets focused at night cause whenever the EP guilds log in around primetime AD usually has Sej BRK and or Drake. Leading to EP naturally pushing south
2. AD probably gets focused by DC cause when the DC guilds log in around primetime they are often missing Ash.

Whatever AD guilds are on in the afternoon painting both parts of the map yellow aggroing both factions is the reason why you are getting double teamed. If you want to solve the problem you might want to tell your afternoon guilds to take a chill pill as we usually prefer to focus DC for the night if we get the chance.

Everyone gets double teamed . It's just a part of AvAvA . We usually push both sides of the map pretty equally so we get retaliation from both sides . A lot Us understand this .

Well good AD probably does the best job right now of splitting their forces up between the two fronts of the map. Wh

manny254 wrote: »

There you go 10:22 am US central time. Is this considered off hours? Looks like EP had a fair bit of organization.

It is very nice to see EP doing so well this early however, take what your seeing with a grain of Salt it's a holiday and the usual layout of the map is going to be different through the holiday weekend.

Yes soon they will be full of fowl and mead and go to sleep so it's almost the perfect time to retaliate .

NACtron

Telel wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.

Why AD often finds themselves getting doubled teamed
1. AD usually gets focused at night cause whenever the EP guilds log in around primetime AD usually has Sej BRK and or Drake. Leading to EP naturally pushing south
2. AD probably gets focused by DC cause when the DC guilds log in around primetime they are often missing Ash.

Whatever AD guilds are on in the afternoon painting both parts of the map yellow aggroing both factions is the reason why you are getting double teamed. If you want to solve the problem you might want to tell your afternoon guilds to take a chill pill as we usually prefer to focus DC for the night if we get the chance.

When khajiit gets on we're lucky to have 2/3 of our home keeps. They're usually split evenly between the bloops and griffs and are often excessively defended. Like, emperor and fifteen of his buds versus one khajiit excessive.

Also, there's usually just been one AD guild group running, and maybe (but not often) one PUG group running when this one is on. Khajiit will let you guess who's been leading that guild group. Hint hint, they have a stream that can back up most everything a humble one says.

But yes, let's tell the one or two AD players leading groups they're bad for for trying to retake keeps, spread factions out, and not just sit on the bridge or in a tower farming levels 10s all day.

Oh and maybe remind the superior players on the griff's side to not gate camp. Or at least not do it when someone's streaming it for posterity.

Your afternoon groups help AD alot I'm sure. You clean up any missing keeps from the oceanic hours, and you more often than not take more of than just your home keeps and hold them for several hours. No doubt helping your campaign scoring. Often times you have done so well at your job that you have taken both DC and EP keeps. Unfortunately for your prime-time comrades your ability to take keeps from both opposing factions results in AD getting focused by both factions.

For example yesterday. I logged in in the afternoon to find AD had Sej BRK and Drake. As well as Ash on the DC side. EP had a couple smaller groups up and was trying to get home keeps back but kept getting stomped by the AD that were on. I logged in at 8:30PM est and AD still had all those keeps! By this point a lot of the EP were frustrated and ready to get back at the AD. So the primetime EP guilds pushed south. Taking back our home keeps and taking Alessia. DC eventually did the same taking back Ash and then getting Brindle and Roe. While there were EP/DC pugs fighting over bleaks the EP and the DC guilds wanted to push south for obvious reasons.

The issue AD has right now is that they cannot hold what they're afternoon guilds take and they cannot defend their home keeps in primetime. Hence my original point if AD can't take the heat then they need to chill out on what they are taking in the afternoon.

Telel

God_flakes wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.

Well, that works for AD because they're in second. EP is in last and want second. thus they go after AD who has second. EP going after DC wouldn't help EP it would help AD. lol

That's the incorrect logic that everyone tries to use all of the time.

If you're in last place your goal should be to make sure the top scorer has the least amount of points, aka the smallest gap between you and them. Even if you take second place it doesn't matter if the first place faction has a 2k lead on you. Low level thinking of "I have to climb this long ass ladder to get to the top" when you have the option to shrink the distance first is something else which holds EP back.

Stop trying to convince EP to take it easy on AD. With EP in third place, single focusing DC only helps AD advance the scoreboard and get stronger and usually AD then turns around and holds EP off from gaining any ground. In a 3 way fight the fights go 3 ways, pal. Just cuz you're monkey in the middle doesn't mean anyone should take it easy on you guys. Given half a chance AD would pvdoor the map and then gleefully gate farm EP and DC at the same time without batting an eye.

Remind khajiit again which faction took it upon themselves to send most of their organized guilds to other servers after they'd won Trueflame for 3 months in a row? Servers in which people from certain other factions practically begged them to go to to help stop them being dominated by one faction.

Now, tell khajiit which faction isn't going to be doing that despite being about to win Trueflame for 3 months in a row?

Also this one does not like to brag but not many people in the Dumbminion will come here to start angry elf threads about how so and so is killing off the campaign because...someone lost their scrolls for a little bit.

Force-Siphon

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Rohamad_Ali

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Rohamad_Ali

I think some of you L33t PvP'ers are the biggest role players on the mega server and don't even realize this . So entrenched in the game of thrones drama and faction stereo typing you could've be writing your own Nancy Drew novels .

Force-Siphon

Rohamed whoever you are missed my point that it's hard to pull people away from the bridge so you have to force it sometimes bc zone chat shaming doesn't work

Rohamad_Ali

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Rohamed whoever you are missed my point that it's hard to pull people away from the bridge so you have to force it sometimes bc zone chat shaming doesn't work

It's not that hard to pull people from the bridge , you just have to know how to talk to people instead of talking down to people .

pcar944

Manoekin wrote: »

pcar944 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.

Well, that works for AD because they're in second. EP is in last and want second. thus they go after AD who has second. EP going after DC wouldn't help EP it would help AD. lol

That's the incorrect logic that everyone tries to use all of the time.

If you're in last place your goal should be to make sure the top scorer has the least amount of points, aka the smallest gap between you and them. Even if you take second place it doesn't matter if the first place faction has a 2k lead on you. Low level thinking of "I have to climb this long ass ladder to get to the top" when you have the option to shrink the distance first is something else which holds EP back.

Stop trying to convince EP to take it easy on AD. With EP in third place, single focusing DC only helps AD advance the scoreboard and get stronger and usually AD then turns around and holds EP off from gaining any ground. In a 3 way fight the fights go 3 ways, pal. Just cuz you're monkey in the middle doesn't mean anyone should take it easy on you guys. Given half a chance AD would pvdoor the map and then gleefully gate farm EP and DC at the same time without batting an eye.

It's not like EP and DC didn't double team gate farm for 2hrs yesterday. It's not like DC is defending every keep like it's their last emp keep, the moral DC would never do that. Oh well thank you for the 22k tick at the gate though. I was taking a break but the nerve of DC and the "we don't do that" attitude changed my mind. From now on we will start a 2nd group instead of a waiting list, gratz EP & DC you poked the bear.

Was it yesterday or the day before? Tuesday night prime time (last time I played) i logged in to see DC once again didn't have Ash. After much caps in zone we managed to finally get Ash. From then it was an avalanche of DC moving south-which EP siezed upon and also moved south. It just happens that way sometimes. I can't help but wonder if it wasn't retribution for all the pvdooring AD does before prime time begins. Talk about waking a sleeping bear. Seems ya'll woke sleeping lions and dragons.

there was 1 evening when EP went south and took Fare and went to gate of Mnem and DC took BB and both factions just sat there unable to get inside and take the scroll, eventually most of DC just gave up and left and I'm not sure if EP got the scroll or not cause I logged

such a lagfest too

but it not like stuff like this doesn't happen to DC or EP so nobody can really complain

EP got the scroll after about a half hour or more of three guilds making pushes into the gate and getting wiped by pugs.

Left us a nice 35k tick though, then I ported over to Altadoon and was quickly rewarded with a 26k tick. Was a good 5 minutes.

can I join your AD cause damn, that AP is tasty

pcar944

manny254 wrote: »

There you go 10:22 am US central time. Is this considered off hours? Looks like EP had a fair bit of organization.

yep and FINALLY some DC listened and instead of letting EP go to AD doors - went and took Ales and DC

then everything returned back to normal - Bleaker/Ales/***/Roe/Ash fighting

PVP-door is bad no matter what alliance getting it ore doing it

I keep saying, what fun are you having capturing empty keeps and no enemy engagement? even when on loosing end

Astanphaeus

manny254 wrote: »

Astanphaeus wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

I have not really played in a few weeks, but I would say it is not necessarily a organizational issue. Some of it is a learning issue. A lot of EP players make some very poor choices. Many of these are often considered experienced players.

I recall an instance near the beginning of the campaign where DC had Alessia, Roe, and was pushing chal. There where organized EP groups constantly attacking AD tri keeps while this DC emp push was taking place. At one point they even opened one of the gates.

I can think of another instance where we where messing around Arrius because DC was attacking it. A group of 12 decided that chasing Mer and I around a tower was more important than saving Arrius.

These are just a two examples of the real issues EP has. There countless examples of EP potato pushing Alessia while DC is making map pushes. Everyone tries to blame pugs, but more often than not it is organized EP groups. Often enough they are groups considered to be "Elite" groups.

EP is utterly lacking in guilds outside the primetime hours. If the situations you list here happened outside of primetime that would suggest there is some sort of organized EP guilds out there. And if that is the case while they may not be making the best decisions they are better than nothing and can improve.

What I have seen is that is not the case. EP has nothing remotely resembling organization until the late afternoon. Also in the last few weeks a couple major EP daytime guilds have gone inactive.

From my experience EP does have organized groups, but once again they just don't make the best choices.

(Not directed specifically at you) I still continue to be amazed at how there is a continual complaint about EP leadership, but EP by far has the largest amount of veteran players. For example EP by no contest has the greatest amount of players at AR49-50, and generally the greatest amount of high AR players. The EP players that already exist simply need to actually help one another. No one needs to reroll to the faction the greatest overall population.

I know you are all pissy since they took your doors away, but if you up your reading comprehension just a tad, you'll notice that we are plenty happy with our primetime presence. The problem arises from the fact that in the last three mornings I've logged in, AD has had 3 bars pop, DC was at 2, and EP was all the way down at 1. Organization only gets you so far.

You need to step up your read comprehension. Your poor attempt at talking down to me shows you are the only one who is "pissy". Additionally I was referencing my own post that was pertaining to off hours.

Not only that, but you indirectly agreed with me. You conceded to me that EP does not have organizational issues.

So frankly I don't know what you are all "pissy" about if you agree with my point about organization. Thank you for agreeing with me.

The only part where you mentioned something that has to do with organization was this line: "The EP players that already exist simply need to actually help one another," in which you say we don't work together, which would mean we don't have organization. There rest of your statement is that we have a high number of experienced players, which may be true but has nothing to do with organization. And nothing in your comment addresses the normal population differences in the morning hours (though I will concede we did better this holiday morning than we normally do in mornings). So what sentence did I supposedly agree with?

God_flakes

Telel wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.

Well, that works for AD because they're in second. EP is in last and want second. thus they go after AD who has second. EP going after DC wouldn't help EP it would help AD. lol

That's the incorrect logic that everyone tries to use all of the time.

If you're in last place your goal should be to make sure the top scorer has the least amount of points, aka the smallest gap between you and them. Even if you take second place it doesn't matter if the first place faction has a 2k lead on you. Low level thinking of "I have to climb this long ass ladder to get to the top" when you have the option to shrink the distance first is something else which holds EP back.

Stop trying to convince EP to take it easy on AD. With EP in third place, single focusing DC only helps AD advance the scoreboard and get stronger and usually AD then turns around and holds EP off from gaining any ground. In a 3 way fight the fights go 3 ways, pal. Just cuz you're monkey in the middle doesn't mean anyone should take it easy on you guys. Given half a chance AD would pvdoor the map and then gleefully gate farm EP and DC at the same time without batting an eye.

Remind khajiit again which faction took it upon themselves to send most of their organized guilds to other servers after they'd won Trueflame for 3 months in a row? Servers in which people from certain other factions practically begged them to go to to help stop them being dominated by one faction.

Now, tell khajiit which faction isn't going to be doing that despite being about to win Trueflame for 3 months in a row?

Also this one does not like to brag but not many people in the Dumbminion will come here to start angry elf threads about how so and so is killing off the campaign because...someone lost their scrolls for a little bit.

Funny how you always come running when I chirp the word "pvdoor"...guilty conscience?

God_flakes

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.

Why AD often finds themselves getting doubled teamed
1. AD usually gets focused at night cause whenever the EP guilds log in around primetime AD usually has Sej BRK and or Drake. Leading to EP naturally pushing south
2. AD probably gets focused by DC cause when the DC guilds log in around primetime they are often missing Ash.

Whatever AD guilds are on in the afternoon painting both parts of the map yellow aggroing both factions is the reason why you are getting double teamed. If you want to solve the problem you might want to tell your afternoon guilds to take a chill pill as we usually prefer to focus DC for the night if we get the chance.

Everyone gets double teamed . It's just a part of AvAvA . We usually push both sides of the map pretty equally so we get retaliation from both sides . A lot Us understand this .

Well good AD probably does the best job right now of splitting their forces up between the two fronts of the map. Wh

manny254 wrote: »

There you go 10:22 am US central time. Is this considered off hours? Looks like EP had a fair bit of organization.

It is very nice to see EP doing so well this early however, take what your seeing with a grain of Salt it's a holiday and the usual layout of the map is going to be different through the holiday weekend.

Yes soon they will be full of fowl and mead and go to sleep so it's almost the perfect time to retaliate .

Let the mead go down easy and the fowl be tasty! Happy Thanksgiving, Ro.

Rohamad_Ali

God_flakes wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.

Why AD often finds themselves getting doubled teamed
1. AD usually gets focused at night cause whenever the EP guilds log in around primetime AD usually has Sej BRK and or Drake. Leading to EP naturally pushing south
2. AD probably gets focused by DC cause when the DC guilds log in around primetime they are often missing Ash.

Whatever AD guilds are on in the afternoon painting both parts of the map yellow aggroing both factions is the reason why you are getting double teamed. If you want to solve the problem you might want to tell your afternoon guilds to take a chill pill as we usually prefer to focus DC for the night if we get the chance.

Everyone gets double teamed . It's just a part of AvAvA . We usually push both sides of the map pretty equally so we get retaliation from both sides . A lot Us understand this .

Well good AD probably does the best job right now of splitting their forces up between the two fronts of the map. Wh

manny254 wrote: »

There you go 10:22 am US central time. Is this considered off hours? Looks like EP had a fair bit of organization.

It is very nice to see EP doing so well this early however, take what your seeing with a grain of Salt it's a holiday and the usual layout of the map is going to be different through the holiday weekend.

Yes soon they will be full of fowl and mead and go to sleep so it's almost the perfect time to retaliate .

Let the mead go down easy and the fowl be tasty! Happy Thanksgiving, Ro.

Happy Holiday to you and your family .

Psilent

Anyone want a glass of wine ?

Happy Thanksgiving to all my Canadian guild mates and friends in Cyrodiil.

Been a fun month or so since Invictus started getting things rolling again. Looking forward to the last days of this campaign and the start of the new one.

antihero727

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Of all the metas of the past and the ones coming in the future. The zerg meta has endured the test of time and patches. I think 150 is a slight miscount though but groups of 50 are becoming the normal. The only way to not zerg is to leave keeps alone and skirmish at different points of the map. Stop the salt pick a fight both shake on & go. This will never happen so the current meta lives another patch. I would love to meet another group of similar # and play capture the flag at a resource.

Ghostbane

I think we've missed the point of Thanksgiving here.

God_flakes

Psilent wrote: »

Anyone want a glass of wine ?

Happy Thanksgiving to all my Canadian guild mates and friends in Cyrodiil.

Been a fun month or so since Invictus started getting things rolling again. Looking forward to the last days of this campaign and the start of the new one.

Canada celebrates their thanksgiving before us, right? Their's was a month or so ago.

pcar944

happy turkey day

and fyi for some dumb reason DC is really south right now ... *sigh*

Manoekin

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Says the person sitting in the fat zerg. Says the person who's faction moves as an entire unit. Says the person who literally won't push Chalman to the point ZOS is reworking the coding to rename it Fort Chalman. He wonders why and gets frustrated by another faction stacking to attack an enemy keep when they don't even have their own home keeps. It must only be okay for him and his faction to do such things. I agree, EP is very strong when they're all on the same page = faction stack.

Seriously Force take your zerg goggles off already.

Telel

God_flakes wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.

Well, that works for AD because they're in second. EP is in last and want second. thus they go after AD who has second. EP going after DC wouldn't help EP it would help AD. lol

That's the incorrect logic that everyone tries to use all of the time.

If you're in last place your goal should be to make sure the top scorer has the least amount of points, aka the smallest gap between you and them. Even if you take second place it doesn't matter if the first place faction has a 2k lead on you. Low level thinking of "I have to climb this long ass ladder to get to the top" when you have the option to shrink the distance first is something else which holds EP back.

Stop trying to convince EP to take it easy on AD. With EP in third place, single focusing DC only helps AD advance the scoreboard and get stronger and usually AD then turns around and holds EP off from gaining any ground. In a 3 way fight the fights go 3 ways, pal. Just cuz you're monkey in the middle doesn't mean anyone should take it easy on you guys. Given half a chance AD would pvdoor the map and then gleefully gate farm EP and DC at the same time without batting an eye.

Remind khajiit again which faction took it upon themselves to send most of their organized guilds to other servers after they'd won Trueflame for 3 months in a row? Servers in which people from certain other factions practically begged them to go to to help stop them being dominated by one faction.

Now, tell khajiit which faction isn't going to be doing that despite being about to win Trueflame for 3 months in a row?

Also this one does not like to brag but not many people in the Dumbminion will come here to start angry elf threads about how so and so is killing off the campaign because...someone lost their scrolls for a little bit.

Funny how you always come running when I chirp the word "pvdoor"...guilty conscience?

This one thinks you are easily amused if you found that funny.

Also khajiit is never guilty of the things they are accused of. Therefore their conscience is as clean as an elfish sorts's hairless areas. Also larger, and being put to a use that others find enjoyable.

NACtron

Manoekin wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Says the person sitting in the fat zerg. Says the person who's faction moves as an entire unit. Says the person who literally won't push Chalman to the point ZOS is reworking the coding to rename it Fort Chalman. He wonders why and gets frustrated by another faction stacking to attack an enemy keep when they don't even have their own home keeps. It must only be okay for him and his faction to do such things. I agree, EP is very strong when they're all on the same page = faction stack.

Seriously Force take your zerg goggles off already.

Heresy! DC never owns Chal these days. Their heretical claims of Chal being a DC home keep are over. However Dragon is an official EP home keep.

Lucky28

manny254 wrote: »

There you go 10:22 am US central time. Is this considered off hours? Looks like EP had a fair bit of organization.

nope. that happened because the majority of AD and DC where fighting at Nickel/Roe. when the fighting at Roe ending we lost pretty much all that XD.

there where more good EP players on this morning than normal. no doubt because of thanksgiving, people didn't have to go to work or school, so they could play for a time. that's not the norm tho. and even still, it was 2 bar EP 3 bar DC/AD

Manoekin wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Says the person sitting in the fat zerg. Says the person who's faction moves as an entire unit. Says the person who literally won't push Chalman to the point ZOS is reworking the coding to rename it Fort Chalman. He wonders why and gets frustrated by another faction stacking to attack an enemy keep when they don't even have their own home keeps. It must only be okay for him and his faction to do such things. I agree, EP is very strong when they're all on the same page = faction stack.

Seriously Force take your zerg goggles off already.

Alright dude last time i fought ad i tagged 72 AD players in one engagement. everyone stacks and for good reason. Viper, Tremorscale, Widow etc, they gotta go.

anyways. EP contests DC's claim on chal by taking out our own claim on Nickel/Ash

manny254

Lucky28 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

There you go 10:22 am US central time. Is this considered off hours? Looks like EP had a fair bit of organization.

nope. that happened because the majority of AD and DC where fighting at Nickel/Roe. when the fighting at Roe ending we lost pretty much all that XD.

there where more good EP players on this morning than normal. no doubt because of thanksgiving, people didn't have to go to work or school, so they could play for a time. that's not the norm tho. and even still, it was 2 bar EP 3 bar DC/AD

Manoekin wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Says the person sitting in the fat zerg. Says the person who's faction moves as an entire unit. Says the person who literally won't push Chalman to the point ZOS is reworking the coding to rename it Fort Chalman. He wonders why and gets frustrated by another faction stacking to attack an enemy keep when they don't even have their own home keeps. It must only be okay for him and his faction to do such things. I agree, EP is very strong when they're all on the same page = faction stack.

Seriously Force take your zerg goggles off already.

Alright dude last time i fought ad i tagged 72 AD players in one engagement. everyone stacks and for good reason. Viper, Tremorscale, Widow etc, they gotta go.

anyways. EP contests DC's claim on chal by taking out our own claim on Nickel/Ash

The population was 3 bars for every faction when i took that screenshot.

So with that frame of logic faction stacking did not occur prior to those things? I don't think it takes much to see how flawed that logic is.

Lucky28

manny254 wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

There you go 10:22 am US central time. Is this considered off hours? Looks like EP had a fair bit of organization.

nope. that happened because the majority of AD and DC where fighting at Nickel/Roe. when the fighting at Roe ending we lost pretty much all that XD.

there where more good EP players on this morning than normal. no doubt because of thanksgiving, people didn't have to go to work or school, so they could play for a time. that's not the norm tho. and even still, it was 2 bar EP 3 bar DC/AD

Manoekin wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Says the person sitting in the fat zerg. Says the person who's faction moves as an entire unit. Says the person who literally won't push Chalman to the point ZOS is reworking the coding to rename it Fort Chalman. He wonders why and gets frustrated by another faction stacking to attack an enemy keep when they don't even have their own home keeps. It must only be okay for him and his faction to do such things. I agree, EP is very strong when they're all on the same page = faction stack.

Seriously Force take your zerg goggles off already.

Alright dude last time i fought ad i tagged 72 AD players in one engagement. everyone stacks and for good reason. Viper, Tremorscale, Widow etc, they gotta go.

anyways. EP contests DC's claim on chal by taking out our own claim on Nickel/Ash

The population was 3 bars for every faction when i took that screenshot.

So with that frame of logic faction stacking did not occur prior to those things? I don't think it takes much to see how flawed that logic is.

it was 2 bars when i checked. but whatever, holiday. your point is moot.

Faction stacking was always a thing to be sure. but it was never so bad as when proc sets came into the picture. true small scale is a thing of rarity these days.

maxjapank

Lucky28 wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

There you go 10:22 am US central time. Is this considered off hours? Looks like EP had a fair bit of organization.

nope. that happened because the majority of AD and DC where fighting at Nickel/Roe. when the fighting at Roe ending we lost pretty much all that XD.

there where more good EP players on this morning than normal. no doubt because of thanksgiving, people didn't have to go to work or school, so they could play for a time. that's not the norm tho. and even still, it was 2 bar EP 3 bar DC/AD

Lucky's absolutely right. This is exactly what happened. After our group saved/took Brindle back from AD, red had quickly taken Alesswell. And so we headed up to Aless to engage red, and during that time AD took Brindle again. But the majority of AD and DC were fighting between Nickel/Roe. And when I logged off at 11:30pm Japan time (9:30am NA east coast/8:30 am central), it was 2 bar EP 3 bar DC/AD.

For some of the Oceanic players, when I log out at 11:30pm, it is still only 10:30 pm for them. So the screen shot you posted would be like 12:22 after midnight for them. So I'd say that is more the NA crew hopping on to replace the Oceanic crew.

But was nice to see some stronger EP players on before I hit bed.

God_flakes

Manoekin wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Says the person sitting in the fat zerg. Says the person who's faction moves as an entire unit. Says the person who literally won't push Chalman to the point ZOS is reworking the coding to rename it Fort Chalman. He wonders why and gets frustrated by another faction stacking to attack an enemy keep when they don't even have their own home keeps. It must only be okay for him and his faction to do such things. I agree, EP is very strong when they're all on the same page = faction stack.

Seriously Force take your zerg goggles off already.

Force Siphon and I have this weird habit of always crossing paths in pvp. I almost never see him in a zerg or zerfing.

Ernest145

God_flakes wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

AD gets what's coming to them primetime, it was pretty funny last night when we took alessia and AD spent their whole defense fighting from the farm like we owned the keep, and basically held off all of AD during primetime at alessia until DC finally figured out what was going on and pushes south. Again, nik is right people are going to push south when AD sticks 150 people in BRK for hours and triggers the faction, or runs multiple 24 man blobs into sej. If we had this problem with DC then we would push them. TBH we got pretty frustrated with DC last night that EP was not pushing ales with organized guilds and gave them every opportunity to get ash back and take the pressure off of us and yet they continued to push bleakers. When it's primetime EP is probably strongest faction when we are on the same page but we spend all of primetime cleaning up the mess of the rest of the day which is what nik is talking about. And let's be honest everyone hates AD and wants to push them and sometimes you have to suck it up and go lag in alessia to close the bridge and get people to do other things.

Says the person sitting in the fat zerg. Says the person who's faction moves as an entire unit. Says the person who literally won't push Chalman to the point ZOS is reworking the coding to rename it Fort Chalman. He wonders why and gets frustrated by another faction stacking to attack an enemy keep when they don't even have their own home keeps. It must only be okay for him and his faction to do such things. I agree, EP is very strong when they're all on the same page = faction stack.

Seriously Force take your zerg goggles off already.

Force Siphon and I have this weird habit of always crossing paths in pvp. I almost never see him in a zerg or zerfing.

I don't get why it matters who zergs and who doesn't. I've seen literally everyone zerg, people posting in this forum post and "small scalers" who talk crap about zergs but do it themselves. This isn't directly towards you Jauriel I'm just speaking in general. Every faction stacks together at times to win so using that as an argument or to insult others is dumb.

Invictus capped faregyle alone and we decided to hold it, AD was too distracted with us so DC took ash, nikel, roe, and brindle. EP was still fighting around bleakers and chal, I'm not sure what group did but they took BM. From there people realized AD was the ideal target to cap scrolls and just moved south. I don't see why EP or DC would send raids at each other when the opportunity is right there to cap scrolls, especially with DC wanting to keep first place.

EP knew there was no possible to way to get first place before the campaign ends so obviously they weren't concerned with how much score DC was gaining. People really need to stop complaining and just play the game (even though it's in a horrible place right now). If you are getting double teamed for a few hours then who cares, people decide where to go and fight for whatever reason. Nobody is secretly conspiring on focusing a certain faction only, so no point in whining on the forums.

Ernest145

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Rohamed whoever you are missed my point that it's hard to pull people away from the bridge so you have to force it sometimes bc zone chat shaming doesn't work

It's not that hard to pull people from the bridge , you just have to know how to talk to people instead of talking down to people .

Lol I welcome you to come and try to get EP off the bridge. Most people are nice in zone chat and try to get them off to take/defend chal yet they don't listen. They just do not want to leave the bridge for good reason since ad just throws themselves at it.

IxSTALKERxI

Ernest145 wrote: »

People really need to stop complaining and just play the game (even though it's in a horrible place right now). If you are getting double teamed for a few hours then who cares, people decide where to go and fight for whatever reason. Nobody is secretly conspiring on focusing a certain faction only, so no point in whining on the forums.

^This