Plunder skull Achievement BUG

stombrewerb16_ESO

And now suddenly lots of motifs. Turned out the sample space wasn't anywhere big enough.

Wondering if something happened to the Hollowjack motif drop rate as well. Before the bug, the motif/recipe ratio from the skulls appeared to be roughly equal. With the bug, I've received a single motif and no end of recipes. Of course, that's only based on 90 minutes of farming Irontooth, which doesn't provide a solid sample space, but looking odd none the same.

Bronan026

Stardark wrote: »

Bronan026 wrote: »

Ridiculous!

Too much downtime yesterday and now this!

Well, ZOS have already got our money so you can guess they are not in a rush to fix it.

Actually they just took your money. The rest of us got refunds.

Comedian.

sagesourceb16_ESO

The Hippocratic Principle is best for bug fixing: "First, do no harm."

Maybe you ought to do your patches on the PTS first. It wouldn't have taken very long for people to have noticed the bug there.

I was distinctly less than amused when I survived helping to beat up Limbscather with a Level 3 character and then it didn't give me the Essence of Death I needed to go on with the quest.

There are other bugs too, for instance the one that causes unwanted changes in values in the crafting interface, that have lingered for just about forever. Not enough to make me stop playing but it's still annoying as hell when these things go on for months and years without being addressed.

Juhasow

1st we have monday update that was last forever and now we have this. I dont imagine to not get additional day of event to compensate that issues.

Elsonso

sagesourceb16_ESO wrote: »

The Hippocratic Principle is best for bug fixing: "First, do no harm."

Maybe you ought to do your patches on the PTS first. It wouldn't have taken very long for people to have noticed the bug there.

Honestly, they should not have to install it on PTS to find something like this. They have internal servers. They just need to do the work to find this stuff. As players, we are not the proper people to be testing and we should not even be involved in this level of testing.

Another thought is that no one is really deliberately making changes that accidentally result in harm, but they have a build process that injects errors when parts of it glitch. I hope this is not the case, but some of the words they have used in the past during ESO Plus make me think this.

TheDarkRuler

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll have some news regarding the fix for this soon - hang tight for a little bit longer.

Can we know if there is a possibility the changes will come up sometime soon?
Because I just need a very few skulls on three of my characters to get Sun Dusk Reaper title.

purple-magicb16_ESO

Xeroxed wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

bugs happen get over it, issue isn't if there is a bug only if the same bug persists for long periods of time, i.e. 6 months of random game crashing on both 32 and 64 bit client.

Son, I am NOT the person you want to lecture about bugs happening because I am well aware of that. XD But them managing to break seemingly unrelated systems during a limited time event stretches the limits of my imagination as someone who has a slightly better than layman's understanding of these issues as I've tinkered with coding and art and even QA testing. They need a fire under their arse so that they do their jobs, even if they mostly do well for what they have to deal with. I don't hate on ZOS JUST to hate.

I'm not that fired up or upset about it, but I have to agree. They should take some ownership and responsibility in this. 3-4 hrs is one thing but losing whole days on a time sensitive promotional event is another. And it's not just a few people it's affecting. They should probably implement some sort of damage control. Some folks are really really mad. Lol!

magnusthorek

Guess it's pointless trying to get the last 22 in the toon I'm right now. Sigh...

Verbalinkontinenz

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll have some news regarding the fix for this soon - hang tight for a little bit longer.

still hanging tight....

Elsonso

Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll have some news regarding the fix for this soon - hang tight for a little bit longer.

still hanging tight....

Not too tight or gangrene sets in.

Verbalinkontinenz

lordrichter wrote: »

Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll have some news regarding the fix for this soon - hang tight for a little bit longer.

still hanging tight....

Not too tight or gangrene sets in.

i see it clearly coming, ZOS is killing me.

Dubhliam

How can you say you will hotfix something at a specific time then not do it?

Next time, you might be better off being vague about it.

Rune_Relic

Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll have some news regarding the fix for this soon - hang tight for a little bit longer.

still hanging tight....

SmellyButtocks

Alright guy's, don't come to these forums often. Enjoying the Halloween event and not upset about the skulls not counting towards the achievement as it will take me a lot longer to get the mask I want, RNG hates me in every game.

Just wondering if it usually takes this long to get an ETA on a fix, last I read it was to be patched in the morning but according to the Google that's been and gone state side...

DoctorWho1975

This bug will be fixed in the update for November 2nd.

RevenantPulse

DoctorWho1975 wrote: »

This bug will be fixed in the update for November 2nd.

That actually made me LoL. XD

alu-fleurb16_ESO

so now its around half past 9 pm MESZ and nothing happened...not even an update thats somebody actually is trying to fix this issue...

good job.....

DoctorWho1975

StopDropAndBear

Is there any way we could extend the event an extra day to compensate for this? Pretty please?

HansK

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll have some news regarding the fix for this soon - hang tight for a little bit longer.

Still hanging, turning blue...

Verbalinkontinenz

Bronan026

This is now really taking the ***!

Komma

Remember when brian said they had a fix for the group bug but really didnt? Now this? We are (well some of us are) adults here. We can handle the truth. We dont like being misled or lied to or ignored. The bug isnt even an issue to me. How bugs get handled are what matters.

Tevalaur

Obviously "soon"="anytime in the next few weeks"... when it comes to "a little bit longer" before news on an update they announced for this morning and it's well into the afternoon, how many days/weeks does this amount to?

TerraDewBerry

Hanging tight........

stombrewerb16_ESO

Four and a half hours ago:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll have some news regarding the fix for this soon - hang tight for a little bit longer.

Now, I am not among those who call for the Halloween event to be extended for a week due to this lapse in the achievement counter for plunder skulls (a ludicrous demand, by any standard). Neither am I prepared to send my lawyers (again, ludicrous) on you nor stop playing the game (well, every customer has their own breaking point, this is far from being mine) due to this particular bug.

But. I do have some beef with this particular mode of seeking to appease the hordes clamouring at your doors. If you throw a dog (granted, a very intelligent dog, that understands human speech and has a good memory) a bone and promise it the steak that sat on it within a reasonably short interval and fail to deliver within what that timeframe suggests, the dog will be sorely disappointed (sad puppy eyes and the lot) or hungrily upset. And likely to start barking even worse and scratch the door even more fiercely.

So, what I am trying to say is that ... unless "soon" and "a little bit longer" means "to be expected within the hour", I recommend using less immediate sounding terms, or at least to make a follow-up post when "a little bit longer" can reasonably be expected to have expired.

Magic_Doogies

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

Xeroxed wrote: »

AzuraKin wrote: »

bugs happen get over it, issue isn't if there is a bug only if the same bug persists for long periods of time, i.e. 6 months of random game crashing on both 32 and 64 bit client.

Son, I am NOT the person you want to lecture about bugs happening because I am well aware of that. XD But them managing to break seemingly unrelated systems during a limited time event stretches the limits of my imagination as someone who has a slightly better than layman's understanding of these issues as I've tinkered with coding and art and even QA testing. They need a fire under their arse so that they do their jobs, even if they mostly do well for what they have to deal with. I don't hate on ZOS JUST to hate.

I'm not that fired up or upset about it, but I have to agree. They should take some ownership and responsibility in this. 3-4 hrs is one thing but losing whole days on a time sensitive promotional event is another. And it's not just a few people it's affecting. They should probably implement some sort of damage control. Some folks are really really mad. Lol!

I mean I've yet to get the achievement on a single character yet. So for me this really sucks since I want to actually complete this holiday event in full.

Bucky Balls

So, ...I started with 12 plunder skulls and I've added another 19...so...let me see...carry the 1....right, got it - I have 12 plunder skulls!


*****

While the bug is non-critical and has probably been introduced when you [zos] attempted to fix the glitchy quest journal code introduced with the festival shennanigans it is ridiculous that you are still not doing anything approximating to effective regression testing.

Time to stop fiddling around with festivals, funny hats and rubbish and do a thorough overhaul of your code-base so it's synchronised to properly reflect ALL bug-fixes rather than this absurd process you are currently stumbling around with that keeps merging old, buggy code with more recent versions thereby re-introducing older bugs (such as the wrong keen-eye graphic for resource nodes making those nodes practically invisible) that have actually been fixed, in some cases years ago, and introducing school-child errors such as this current bug.

I guess you[zos] all must be pretty embarassed by this - as you should be. Incrementing a counter isn't rocket science but I have an uncomfortable suspicion that whatever 'fix' you eventually arrive at by whatever random process of problem solving you currently use will result in more server downtime and the introduction of new bugs and the re-introduction of old bugs.

****

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll have some news regarding the fix for this soon - hang tight for a little bit longer.

I actually believe that you believe this. I do. But consumer confidence at this point is as likely to move upwards as the plunder skull count.

Elvent

Extend the event if this isn't going to be fixed any time soon. It isn't fair to us that have this bug and we already spent so many hours grinding for this, this has been the most boring thing I have ever done in this game but I want it and I stuck with it but I'm stuck at 78 and I can't increase my credit due to this bug. There is only a few days left so please fix this or extend the event OR at least give us the credit that the bug prevented our credit.

lexior12

!@#$'n anything yet!???