BiS monster set for healer ?

Il3rotherhood

Is it still engine guardian ? Or is there a better options with the new ones ? I am lookibg for some change

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

There is none. I hate to say it but there is just too much to gain from 5/5/1 set, the 1 being kena or master or Maelstrom resto, from a healing stand point. SPC + worm or aether. It really is too good. Better then any of the monster sets.

nine9six

Focus on getting Spell Power Cure for now and then, as mention, Worm / Aether.

code65536

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

There is none. I hate to say it but there is just too much to gain from 5/5/1 set, the 1 being kena or master or Maelstrom resto, from a healing stand point. SPC + worm or aether. It really is too good. Better then any of the monster sets.

Exactly. None of the Monster sets are really good for healing. Though I'd say that vDSA resto > vMA resto.

DocFrost72

If you aren't a templar, try the new centurion helm. 10% chance on healing to proc a dwemer spider that restores stam and health

Edit cause apparently my phone thinks dwemer are deer.

Astanphaeus

The Troll King Set is decent. In a 4-man Dungeon, the Chokethorn one isn't bad either, but not in PvP or Trials.

For PvP, we have been trying to determine whether it is better to use both 1-piece bonuses from Troll King and Chokethorn or just full Troll King for better healing.

Averya_Teira

I was thinking of Sentinel of Rkugamz on my DK healer for the stamina regen I am missing vs a templar ? Is the 5 meter radius around you, or the healed target ?

Would it be better than Master resto staff ?

AlnilamE

I use 1 piece Kena for extra spell damage and 2 5-piece sets. Currently evaluating options for those.

Brrrofski

Sentinel of Rkugamz would've good for a non tempalr healer. May be good of you have a tank who can't manage stam. Other than that, no need for a monster set.

EG was never good on a healer. Still isn't.

Shaiba

The healed target. I can't tell if it's better than the master resto staff, cause I use both on my non-templar healers. But it is really useful as a non templar healer for sure.

Buffler

I run 5 spc, 5 lich with kena shoulders and mael inferno. High spell dmg with infinite regen. I use worm and spc in trials

DocFrost72

Shaiba wrote: »

The healed target. I can't tell if it's better than the master resto staff, cause I use both on my non-templar healers. But it is really useful as a non templar healer for sure.

I do want to eventually make myself a DK healer, so was considering running 5 SPC, 2 SoR, 3 willpower and master's resto. Long ways off from that, however.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Ajaxduo

Sentinel of Rkugamz is nice if you have stamina DD's in group and nice for the tank also, however I'm not sure if it spawns under yourself...if that's the case you would need to hug your group for them to be able to benefit from it. Other than that, 1 pc kena/ilambris/iceheart is a good idea alongside worm cult (or whatever you prefer here) + spell power cure.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Averya_Teira wrote: »

I was thinking of Sentinel of Rkugamz on my DK healer for the stamina regen I am missing vs a templar ? Is the 5 meter radius around you, or the healed target ?

Would it be better than Master resto staff ?

It is around the target. The spider pops out and walks to the target healed. So it isnt an instant thing. i was using it for a bit, but quit. It is to random and procs to infrequently to be overly useful. Atleast in my playing.

Ive never played with the masters staff so no idea.

Shaiba

That's what i'm using on my DK healer. It works fine.

hedna123b14_ESO

Il3rotherhood wrote: »

Is it still engine guardian ? Or is there a better options with the new ones ? I am lookibg for some change

All deoends on the situation, but here is something to consider. The vMA resto only really helps you with regen. The abundance of regen already available to you from health/regen food and other sources make it not so useful in a trial environment. A VDSA master staff can be useful but shards and repentance and the redguard meta make its use very limited. Here is something you could run: 2 5 piece sets lets say SPC and Worm and have a staff for each set on a different var that way it frees up two spaces on the body for a monster mask. For example this is a pretty amazing way to run Iceheart on a healer for HM Rakkat which can be a godsend.

kylewwefan

There aren't any good healer Monster sets. Best to run 2 x 5 piece sets and staff.

Averya_Teira

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Il3rotherhood wrote: »

Is it still engine guardian ? Or is there a better options with the new ones ? I am lookibg for some change

All deoends on the situation, but here is something to consider. The vMA resto only really helps you with regen. The abundance of regen already available to you from health/regen food and other sources make it not so useful in a trial environment. A VDSA master staff can be useful but shards and repentance and the redguard meta make its use very limited. Here is something you could run: 2 5 piece sets lets say SPC and Worm and have a staff for each set on a different var that way it frees up two spaces on the body for a monster mask. For example this is a pretty amazing way to run Iceheart on a healer for HM Rakkat which can be a godsend.

I love how people just assume every healer is a templar, and that only templars are viable healers...

Except the stamina regen of repentance and shards, a DK healer actually has way more group buffs than a templar.

gamerguy757

My healer is crazy good. I run this:
5x Healer's Habit
5x Spell Power Cure
1x Maelstrom Restoration
1x Maelstrom Lightning

wayfarerx

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Averya_Teira wrote: »

I was thinking of Sentinel of Rkugamz on my DK healer for the stamina regen I am missing vs a templar ? Is the 5 meter radius around you, or the healed target ?

Would it be better than Master resto staff ?

It is around the target. The spider pops out and walks to the target healed. So it isnt an instant thing. i was using it for a bit, but quit. It is to random and procs to infrequently to be overly useful. Atleast in my playing.

Ive never played with the masters staff so no idea.

Not only does the spider spawn pretty infrequently, but the radius is so small it is not much of a "group buff" unless everyone is stacked on the target.

I was pretty underwhelmed after trying it out, worm / SPC seems much more effective.

Il3rotherhood

Thank you guys for all your answers !

Averya_Teira

What would you guys recommend for a DK healer (so without access to repentance/shards) ?

5 SPC/5 Worm with vDSA resto staff ? So I get mana ''regen'' from Worm and stamina regen from Master Staff ?

I don't usually cast Grand Healing that much, when I get the resto staff, should I make myself cast it for the sake of stam regen?

Shaiba

wayfarerx wrote: »

Not only does the spider spawn pretty infrequently, but the radius is so small it is not much of a "group buff" unless everyone is stacked on the target.

If you play with PuG, this set won't be as useful as with a good, organized and well synergised group. Cause PU don't know how to place themselves, how to synergize as a team, ... Same goes for the master resto staff. It won't be as efficient on a non packed group.

EDIT : If you want to use the full potential of your vDSA resto staff, you'll have to cast healing springs (or the other morph).
About your gear, for trials, it depends on who you duo with as a healer (if the second healer is or not a templar, if he wears aether or wormcult). For 4 man dungeons, it depends if you play with DD stam or magicka one, if you play with PU or not.

CasNation

I run 1 kena, 5 spc, 5 gossamer on my templar healer. The gossamer doesn't see much use outside trials, but it adds a lot of really nice mitigation, especially if your other healer already has worm/aether.

Hamiltonmath

gamerguy757 wrote: »

My healer is crazy good. I run this:
5x Healer's Habit
5x Spell Power Cure
1x Maelstrom Restoration
1x Maelstrom Lightning

Healer's Habit isn't a very good set. Aether brings much more to the table. The point of a "healer" has shifted from "healing" to "buffing/debuffing."

VampiricByNature

I am sad that a monster set in a 2 pc is not relevant for healers. I feel like they tried to create new things for us in 1 Tam and failed.

Also, side note- I think I'm the only healer who feels this way, because it comes up in every healer thread but.... I HATE wearing worms.

code65536

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Il3rotherhood wrote: »

Is it still engine guardian ? Or is there a better options with the new ones ? I am lookibg for some change

All deoends on the situation, but here is something to consider. The vMA resto only really helps you with regen. The abundance of regen already available to you from health/regen food and other sources make it not so useful in a trial environment. A VDSA master staff can be useful but shards and repentance and the redguard meta make its use very limited. Here is something you could run: 2 5 piece sets lets say SPC and Worm and have a staff for each set on a different var that way it frees up two spaces on the body for a monster mask. For example this is a pretty amazing way to run Iceheart on a healer for HM Rakkat which can be a godsend.

Ooh, that's a good idea...

I could see it working wonders with a SPC/Infal setup: 5p SPC with SPC resto staff, 5p Infallible with Infal lightning staff, 2p Iceheart, heal on SPC bar, swap to Infal bar to proc Infal and apply Ele.

Not sure it'd work so well with SPC/Worm, though, since you'll lose the Worm buff on your SPC bar, and if you make your Worm bar your main healing bar with Springs, then you won't get much chance at procing SPC. But I can see it being great for SPC/Infal or SPC/Twilight.

hedna123b14_ESO

Averya_Teira wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Il3rotherhood wrote: »

Is it still engine guardian ? Or is there a better options with the new ones ? I am lookibg for some change

All deoends on the situation, but here is something to consider. The vMA resto only really helps you with regen. The abundance of regen already available to you from health/regen food and other sources make it not so useful in a trial environment. A VDSA master staff can be useful but shards and repentance and the redguard meta make its use very limited. Here is something you could run: 2 5 piece sets lets say SPC and Worm and have a staff for each set on a different var that way it frees up two spaces on the body for a monster mask. For example this is a pretty amazing way to run Iceheart on a healer for HM Rakkat which can be a godsend.

I love how people just assume every healer is a templar, and that only templars are viable healers...

Except the stamina regen of repentance and shards, a DK healer actually has way more group buffs than a templar.

Except bith shards and repentance are a must in every serious raid group, so while no to clear trials you dont need to have a templar healer but its much better if your healer is a templar.

hedna123b14_ESO

code65536 wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Il3rotherhood wrote: »

Is it still engine guardian ? Or is there a better options with the new ones ? I am lookibg for some change

All deoends on the situation, but here is something to consider. The vMA resto only really helps you with regen. The abundance of regen already available to you from health/regen food and other sources make it not so useful in a trial environment. A VDSA master staff can be useful but shards and repentance and the redguard meta make its use very limited. Here is something you could run: 2 5 piece sets lets say SPC and Worm and have a staff for each set on a different var that way it frees up two spaces on the body for a monster mask. For example this is a pretty amazing way to run Iceheart on a healer for HM Rakkat which can be a godsend.

Ooh, that's a good idea...

I could see it working wonders with a SPC/Infal setup: 5p SPC with SPC resto staff, 5p Infallible with Infal lightning staff, 2p Iceheart, heal on SPC bar, swap to Infal bar to proc Infal and apply Ele.

Not sure it'd work so well with SPC/Worm, though, since you'll lose the Worm buff on your SPC bar, and if you make your Worm bar your main healing bar with Springs, then you won't get much chance at procing SPC. But I can see it being great for SPC/Infal or SPC/Twilight.

If you put ritual of ret on your spc bar you should proc it every time you reapply it. Can even do it early if you want. Ritual of ret should also keep your iceheart going

failkiwib16_ESO

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Il3rotherhood wrote: »

Is it still engine guardian ? Or is there a better options with the new ones ? I am lookibg for some change

All deoends on the situation, but here is something to consider. The vMA resto only really helps you with regen. The abundance of regen already available to you from health/regen food and other sources make it not so useful in a trial environment. A VDSA master staff can be useful but shards and repentance and the redguard meta make its use very limited. Here is something you could run: 2 5 piece sets lets say SPC and Worm and have a staff for each set on a different var that way it frees up two spaces on the body for a monster mask. For example this is a pretty amazing way to run Iceheart on a healer for HM Rakkat which can be a godsend.

@hedna123b14_ESO It's worth trying and testing, specially for SPC/Worm combo.

...but if you use it with SPC/ IA it's easier to proc SPC with resto staff, leaving the destro for heavy attacks with Infallible Aether set - restoration staff have a bit better targeting than Destro staff for heavy attacks. >.< I can only imagine its worth doing if you only do vet trials with very good teams, because the players are organized. All other groups however are a mob & boss kiting competition lol .........

hedna123b14_ESO

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Il3rotherhood wrote: »

Is it still engine guardian ? Or is there a better options with the new ones ? I am lookibg for some change

All deoends on the situation, but here is something to consider. The vMA resto only really helps you with regen. The abundance of regen already available to you from health/regen food and other sources make it not so useful in a trial environment. A VDSA master staff can be useful but shards and repentance and the redguard meta make its use very limited. Here is something you could run: 2 5 piece sets lets say SPC and Worm and have a staff for each set on a different var that way it frees up two spaces on the body for a monster mask. For example this is a pretty amazing way to run Iceheart on a healer for HM Rakkat which can be a godsend.

@hedna123b14_ESO It's worth trying and testing, specially for SPC/Worm combo.

...but if you use it with SPC/ IA it's easier to proc SPC with resto staff, leaving the destro for heavy attacks with Infallible Aether set - restoration staff have a bit better targeting than Destro staff for heavy attacks. >.< I can only imagine its worth doing if you only do vet trials with very good teams, because the players are organized. All other groups however are a mob & boss kiting competition lol .........

Out healers run 5 spc 5 worm and 2 iceheart (HM) rakkat and 5 SPC 5 light speaker 2 iceheart