Maintenance on ESO Megaservers - 9/14/16 @ 2:00pm EDT [COMPLETE]

DarknessShallFall

DARKNESSCHAINED wrote: »

So, I need more popcorn. Currently accepting contributions.

Here, I got plenty for everyone

FleetwoodSmack

We're gonna need some pepper for all of this salt. These people be upseeeeeet.

Vals_Fan

It does seem a bit distasteful to boot everyone off the game without even a 30 second "EMERGENCY DOWNTIME" message.

I do not mind occasional downtime, I have come to expect it as a natural part of gaming, but there does come a point when it is a bit much. They should take a page from the old days of wow downtime and credit a day of subscription time to ESO+ members when this happens too much. It wouldn't cost them much in terms of keeping people happy enough to subscribe again.

That being said, people really should have other things available to do during downtime, so that it doesn't seem like the end of the world.

Immortal_Dark410

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

We're gonna need some pepper for all of this salt. These people be upseeeeeet.

LOL

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Chaos0720 wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

dotlife wrote: »

I gotta say that I personally dont belive they are going to really truely fix it. This will remain unstable and the upcomming 'fix' will just plove the way for yet another soon to come fix. It seems like its spinning out of control. I am glad I dont have any money invested.

You honestly think they cannot fix a rollback issue? I can't even properly respond to that because it's beyond illogical. They run this game for a living, of course they can fix the issue. After all, not being able to would mean the game's literal demise.

Like they fixed gap closers, cheat engine, and movement speed bugs right?

GG

/End Discussion

Makes sense. Blame the developers because people have nothing better to do than to break the game.

So to fix the run speed bug i shouldnt move... And to fix the gap closer issues i should stand still in a flat area and wait for everything to come to me. Ya know, so i dont break the game.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Update: We'll be bringing all NA realms back online very soon!

SwaminoNowlino

DarknessShallFall wrote: »

DARKNESSCHAINED wrote: »

So, I need more popcorn. Currently accepting contributions.

Here, I got plenty for everyone

Fun fact, you can usually go to movie theaters and get an entire garbage bag of popcorn for like $10

Grumble_and_Grunt

Dojohoda wrote: »

A screenshot (cropped) of mysterious activities at Chalman one night a few weeks ago.

Look at that! EP very own human centipede.

DARKNESSCHAINED

So much blame getting tossed around, insults and other trash talk. Like, seriously there is a such thing as patience and life outside of video games. An online game down isn't the end of the world. I promise. Go outside, check and see. My words hold truth.

Immortal_Dark410

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We'll be bringing all NA realms back online very soon!

TY for update @ZOS_GinaBruno

Rapthorne

Never seen so many people get so uptight over something that happens to pretty much every single MMORPG with an offline maint cycle I have ever played.

GW2, for the person trying to cite that, was designed to to able to deploy patches while the servers are online, and is very unique in this aspect. Comparing the GW2 server setup and the ESO server setup is totally pointless because they utilise entirely different server structures

Enodoc

Unlikely_Ghostbuster wrote: »

You're not going to get a cookie for mounting fallacious arguments in defense of this unscheduled, unannounced, unexplained down-time that booted everyone from the game without an in-game warning.

Unscheduled - Yes, most emergencies are.

Unannounced - True, but what use is an announcement if progress is going to be lost anyway? A five-minute warning just prolongs the inevitable.

Unxplained - Not so. The maintenance is to prevent further rollbacks and loss of character progress, as stated in the OP.

Malakisidious

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

DarkVector_PL wrote: »

I just want to play

RED RUM RED RUM!!!!!!!!

ObsidianKaesken

"ZeniMax may patch, update, or modify a Service at any time with or without notice to You."

Just putting this out there since there's been a lot of complaints about it.

-- Excluding those who are just requesting a notice out of courtesy.

VaxtinTheWolf

Another tiny image set. I have so many random screen shots, but not many Awe inspiring scenery ones.

rhapsodious

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We'll be bringing all NA realms back online very soon!

*BOUNCES EXCITEDLY*

Immortal_Dark410

Enodoc wrote: »

Unlikely_Ghostbuster wrote: »

You're not going to get a cookie for mounting fallacious arguments in defense of this unscheduled, unannounced, unexplained down-time that booted everyone from the game without an in-game warning.

Unscheduled - Yes, most emergencies are.

Unannounced - True, but what use is an announcement if progress is going to be lost anyway? A five-minute warning just prolongs the inevitable.

Unxplained - Not so. The maintenance is to prevent further rollbacks and loss of character progress, as stated in the OP.

TY @Enodoc Probably couldn't have said it better myself

SwaminoNowlino

Chaos0720 wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

dotlife wrote: »

I gotta say that I personally dont belive they are going to really truely fix it. This will remain unstable and the upcomming 'fix' will just plove the way for yet another soon to come fix. It seems like its spinning out of control. I am glad I dont have any money invested.

You honestly think they cannot fix a rollback issue? I can't even properly respond to that because it's beyond illogical. They run this game for a living, of course they can fix the issue. After all, not being able to would mean the game's literal demise.

Like they fixed gap closers, cheat engine, and movement speed bugs right?

GG

/End Discussion

Makes sense. Blame the developers because people have nothing better to do than to break the game.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/289173/bugs-and-ninja-nerfing-lightning-staff-fighters-guild-speed-and-pets-what-else#latest

DARKNESSCHAINED

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update: We'll be bringing all NA realms back online very soon!

I love you.

DarknessShallFall

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

DarknessShallFall wrote: »

DARKNESSCHAINED wrote: »

So, I need more popcorn. Currently accepting contributions.

Here, I got plenty for everyone

Fun fact, you can usually go to movie theaters and get an entire garbage bag of popcorn for like $10

Sweet, I will have to try that next time xD

ZOS_GinaBruno

Ok, all NA servers are now online.

Thanks again for your patience, everyone. We really appreciate it.

beattle

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

ElBiggus wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

I love the way people think that bringing servers down over and over and over again is "ZOS doing their job". NOT bringing down servers all the time and keeping services running is doing your job.

Sure, because keeping a malfunctioning service running is a great idea.

Enodoc wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

I love the way people think that bringing servers down over and over and over again is "ZOS doing their job". NOT bringing down servers all the time and keeping services running is doing your job.

Sure, because keeping a malfunctioning service running is a great idea.

But if they were doing their job it would not be malfunctioning.

Imagine I ran a train company, and three or four times a week I took all my trains off the track (sometimes during peak commuter time), throw any passengers out wherever the trains happen to be, mumble that I don't know how long it'll take, and then do a rubbish repair job so that they'll all just break down in another day or so and I'll have to do it again. Would you say I was doing my job? No. My job is to run trains, and if you were a passenger you'd be entitled to complain.

For some reason there's a percentage of gamers who will vehemently defend business practices that in any other field would put you out of business really quickly: failing to deliver on promises, selling products that don't work properly, providing terrible customer service, and a whole host of other failings are apparently something we have to put up with, and I don't see why. If you're not annoyed then great, good for you, but don't you dare tell me I'm not allowed to be annoyed and that this kind of service is not only acceptable, but is in some way how it's supposed to be.

You people saying they aren't doing their job because of malfunctions seriously need to get a clue. EVERYTHING IN LIFE BREAKS DOWN AT SOME POINT! Doing your job means fixing it. Not doing your job means leaving it broken. If your car breaks down and you take it to a repair shop and they fix it they did their job. If they didn't fix it then it either died completely or they didn't do their job. How would you feel if they told you if you did YOUR job it would not have broken down in the first place?

Yes, things break down, but it seems you a perfectly ok of band aid solutions that fix nothing in the long run. Using the initial posters example, if a train broke down, was repaired, then broke down again a few days later, one would send that train to a shop to have it fully inspected. From this inspection, they would fix ALL problems they find, instead of keeping same train in service knowing it will break down again next week, the week after that....... Keeping something in service knowing you didn't really fix a problem in hopes of keeping revenue, in the long run looses more revenue then having it completely repaired.

Maybe it is time that this game shuts down the servers to do a complete overhaul to fix what is causing all these problems, no matter how long it takes, instead of taking the pain off a ripped off band aid from a wound, just to put another band aid on top of it a few days later.

Immortal_Dark410

ObsidianKaesken wrote: »

"ZeniMax may patch, update, or modify a Service at any time with or without notice to You."

Just putting this out there since there's been a lot of complaints about it.

-- Excluding those who are just requesting a notice out of courtesy.

well guess that stops this discussion there....wait do i hear new posts being made "Shocked look" then *Gasps*, Now awaits to read more of these Interesting Posts lol

Chaos0720

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Chaos0720 wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

dotlife wrote: »

I gotta say that I personally dont belive they are going to really truely fix it. This will remain unstable and the upcomming 'fix' will just plove the way for yet another soon to come fix. It seems like its spinning out of control. I am glad I dont have any money invested.

You honestly think they cannot fix a rollback issue? I can't even properly respond to that because it's beyond illogical. They run this game for a living, of course they can fix the issue. After all, not being able to would mean the game's literal demise.

Like they fixed gap closers, cheat engine, and movement speed bugs right?

GG

/End Discussion

Makes sense. Blame the developers because people have nothing better to do than to break the game.

So to fix the run speed bug i shouldnt move... And to fix the gap closer issues i should stand still in a flat area and wait for everything to come to me. Ya know, so i dont break the game.

Yes. Because that's exactly what I said. I must not be speaking English around here.

UltimaJoe777

beattle wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

beattle wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

beattle wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

No exact time for completion, but expect it to be at least a couple hours. Sorry, guys. We're going to try and get you back in as soon as possible.

I call bul*hit! You say this every time, and the lemmings you have here supporting you keep falling for it. This has been happening for months, with the same responses, yet, during this time you have done nothing to actually fix the problem that is causing it. I said last month, once the sub I paid for is expired, I am done unless you fix what is causing this constant downtime. You have not.

Keep feeding people garbage, eventually they will get sick of it.

and i commented on that post too, if you dislike that they are actually fixing the issue then stop paying for sub and be quiet. no one cares that you think you are owed anything. As for this being the "same" issue as last month like you claim it could be or it could be something else. we do not know what is causing the issues only ZOS knows. I -do- know how ever that running a mmo is not as easy as most of the people n here think it is.

And what exactly have they fixed? Since subbing, it is the same thing, constant downtimes, for one reason or another, yet, they keep happening. How do YOU know it is NOT the same issue as last month? As I stated, once my sub is expired, I will indeed stop paying and go back to my other game. However, since I have paid in ADVANCE, I am OWED for what I have paid for. I have played many MMO's, and none I have played have ever gone down this frequently. It is people like you that tell people to be quiet for demanding something they have paid for, to be actually fixed, is the problem with the world we are living in. No accountability, only excuses for ineptness.

Hate to break it to you but we don't live in a perfect world where nothing goes wrong. If you try to get through life with this kind of attitude then I feel sorry for the life you will or do lead. In fact, it's even WORSE when a GAME is what you are like this to, because it's not even a MANDATORY part of life. Unless your career revolves around it lol but in this case it does not.

You are absolutely correct, we do not live in a perfect world. However, business' that continually give paying customers lack of service they are providing, tend not to be business' very long. You may say this game is going strong, but, how many past, present, and now future paying customers have they lost, and will never get for lack of service they are paid to provide?

I am not sure what "attitude" I am displaying. I was not aware being upset for something one pays for, and not get, was the norm in todays society. If I pay someone in advance for shoveling my driveway of snow for the up coming winter, and they don't show up come the first snowfall, because they couldn't get there because of the snow, should I just let them keep my money? Money does not grow on trees for some people, and those people expect to get what they pay for.

I paid for the Imperial Edition for this game when it launched on console. I bought the first 4 DLCs flat out, 1 or 2 in the bundles, as well as various other Crown Store items. I sub, and have ever since Crafting Bags. As a PS4 player I am required to purchase PSPlus in order to play the game. PC doesn't have to do anything like that.

All this said, I in no way feel like I have NOT gotten what I have and am not paying for. Why? Because I can play the game. Just because there are moments when I cannot, or issues arise, doesn't mean I am not getting what I pay for. You take the bad with the good, always. Nothing in life can ever compensate you when nothing beyond expected faults are present. It's an MMO, it WILL have downtime, and there is nothing that will ever change that. The sooner you accept that fact the better off you'll be, or you can quit playing MMOs entirely. Your call.

P.S. This game has constant incoming traffic. It is in no way dying.

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

ajback_ESO wrote: »

Okay ladies, it's time to stop whining. You mean you just want problems to continue to persist? Let me direct you to a once glorious MMORPG from the mid 1990's; Ultima Online... Sub required and you'll get to enjoy all the *** experiences with no down time. Be greatful that ZOS recognizes problems and goes in to fix them instead of letting problems persist.[

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Consider the alternative for a minute. The earlier login issues are fixed and you can get back into the game. The root cause of the login issues remains unfixed, but ZOS wants you to be able to play.

Because they did not fix the root cause, everyone keeps getting indeterminate and spasmodic rollbacks. Which is worse - indefinite rollbacks until the next scheduled maintenance, which is five days away, or maintenance now to fix the root cause, and no more rollbacks?

It's not that they didn't fix the root cause, it's that, historically, they CANT fix the root cause of pretty much anything.

Past bug fixes they DID fix beg to differ. Seriously stop being so bitter, you're making medicine look yummy.

You're going to defend anything and everything that ZoS does, so I really could care less about how bitter you think I am.

I defend anything and everything that is attacked for lousy reasons filled with hate. Also learn 2 quote lol

Oh snap I attacked your post! Feel free to defend it so I can disregard you always defending your posts as per your logic.

Keep up the white knight act. Maybe you'll get a phone number out of it.

Good luck with your black knight act, see how many people you get to never take you seriously anymore. I know I sure don't.

Immortal_Dark410

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok, all NA servers are now online.

Thanks again for your patience, everyone. We really appreciate it.

TY for all the work @ZOS_GinaBruno

Chaos0720

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

Chaos0720 wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

dotlife wrote: »

I gotta say that I personally dont belive they are going to really truely fix it. This will remain unstable and the upcomming 'fix' will just plove the way for yet another soon to come fix. It seems like its spinning out of control. I am glad I dont have any money invested.

You honestly think they cannot fix a rollback issue? I can't even properly respond to that because it's beyond illogical. They run this game for a living, of course they can fix the issue. After all, not being able to would mean the game's literal demise.

Like they fixed gap closers, cheat engine, and movement speed bugs right?

GG

/End Discussion

Makes sense. Blame the developers because people have nothing better to do than to break the game.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/289173/bugs-and-ninja-nerfing-lightning-staff-fighters-guild-speed-and-pets-what-else#latest

I've already ready that thread. It's more cancerous than this one.

UltimaJoe777

Zolron wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

I love the way people think that bringing servers down over and over and over again is "ZOS doing their job". NOT bringing down servers all the time and keeping services running is doing your job.

Sure, because keeping a malfunctioning service running is a great idea.

You know what? Other games, GW2 and Warframe seem to manage it. You know what else? Companies with far less resources running far more critical services manage to do it.

IF this was once or twice you wouldn't (and in fact haven't) of heard a peep from me, but this is now becoming a constant feature.

Needing to bring down services over and over again because of problem after problem with no warning AND no real information to the customer about why this keeps happening is not doing your job.

Wrong. It IS doing their job because doing their job means fixing problems. Seriously at least try to use common sense with your hate-filled arguments. Also stop comparing other companies to this because different games use different hardware and content. Their games are probably WAY easier to maintain than ESO is. I wouldn't know though as I don't work on any games so I have no right to judge, nor do you. Do their jobs, THEN you can judge.

Seriously..@u

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

I love the way people think that bringing servers down over and over and over again is "ZOS doing their job". NOT bringing down servers all the time and keeping services running is doing your job.

Sure, because keeping a malfunctioning service running is a great idea.

You know what? Other games, GW2 and Warframe seem to manage it. You know what else? Companies with far less resources running far more critical services manage to do it.

IF this was once or twice you wouldn't (and in fact haven't) of heard a peep from me, but this is now becoming a constant feature.

Needing to bring down services over and over again because of problem after problem with no warning AND no real information to the customer about why this keeps happening is not doing your job.

Wrong. It IS doing their job because doing their job means fixing problems. Seriously at least try to use common sense with your hate-filled arguments. Also stop comparing other companies to this because different games use different hardware and content. Their games are probably WAY easier to maintain than ESO is. I wouldn't know though as I don't work on any games so I have no right to judge, nor do you. Do their jobs, THEN you can judge.

Doing their Job is also to PREVENT further problems with their "fixes". They had a patch, something goes wrong so the servers crash shortly after they come online...they "FIX" it and then shortly after again they take the servers down with no warning because thier doing their jobs. seriously..what fantasy land is this doing their job.

The fantasy land we are able to immerse into because they ARE.

DARKNESSCHAINED

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ok, all NA servers are now online.

Thanks again for your patience, everyone. We really appreciate it.

Will you marry me?

N0TPLAYER2

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Lolssi wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Also not everyone pays for this game. At MOST, they buy the game and that's it.

That is paying for the game...

ONE TIME. All these maintenances, patches, etc. has no impact on that. You will still have your product by the end of the day.

Jesus dude. You live on these forums. Every thread you're reply 1-3. It's like you live to defend zos. Every time I see your avatar I cringe and think here we go again, and sadly this carries over to others who use the same avatar.

Quit defending zos. It's borderline pathetic at this point dude.