Zos please Make Magic and Fire dmg 5pc set

mr_wazzabi

Ysgramor and netch sets will only buff secondary abilities like flame reach and wall of elements. Ysgramor will buff ice comet, but that doesnt happen too often.

We need a magic dmg set for the nb and templars plus a flame dmg set for dk's.

It's only fair.

Automation set for stam buffs all physical dmg. This is unfair

@Wrobel
@ZOS_GinaBruno

CasNation

There already is a fire damage set. It's called silks of the sun and has been around for months.

There should be a magicka damage set though.

acw37162

Automotan is a completely average set. It looks real nice on paper but it's completely average.

The equivalent set in light would be

2 - plus health
3 - plus magic damage
4 - plus magica
5 - plus "X" magica damage (magic damage not flame, frost, or shock)

The autommoton set is average at best the magica equivalent would be dieity like for NB's and Templars so I can see why it doesn't exit

Hiero_Glyph

acw37162 wrote: »

Automotan is a completely average set. It looks real nice on paper but it's completely average.

The equivalent set in light would be

2 - plus health
3 - plus magic damage
4 - plus magica
5 - plus "X" magica damage (magic damage not flame, frost, or shock)

The autommoton set is average at best the magica equivalent would be dieity like for NB's and Templars so I can see why it doesn't exit

Magicka Templars have Soulshine.

Xvorg

CasNation wrote: »

There already is a fire damage set. It's called silks of the sun and has been around for months.

There should be a magicka damage set though.

years actually

CaptainVenom

There's a spell damage set on PTS: Rattlecage

(2 items) Adds 1027 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 124 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 124 Spell Damage
(5 items) Gain Major Sorcery at all times, increasing your Spell Damage by 20%. Adds 97 Spell Damage

RoyJade

A magic version won't be so good.

Stamsorc and stamplar use only physical damage type except some rare skill (poison injection). StamDK use also breath and claw, nut most of their dps is still physical. NB use killer's blade and incap, but once again most of their dps is physical.

Magsorc mostly use fire and thunder damage, only frag and curse (mines and negate in pvp) are "magic" damage. MagDK is even worse, only inhale does pure "magic" damage. Magplar and magblade use mostly magic type damage, but they still have wall and weaving who does fire damage. And for everyone, only bats (pvp) does magicka damage, meteor does either fire or frost.
A magicka set won't boost 80% of their dps abilities like automaton does for everyone (a little lower than the others for stamDK).

shrb

CaptainVenom wrote: »

There's a spell damage set on PTS: Rattlecage

(2 items) Adds 1027 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 124 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 124 Spell Damage
(5 items) Gain Major Sorcery at all times, increasing your Spell Damage by 20%. Adds 97 Spell Damage

in the slight case you're not trolling:
change it from "Major sorcery" to straight up "10% increased spell damage" and you are up to something.
else it's garbage, since magicka builds already have Major sorcery

code65536

CaptainVenom wrote: »

There's a spell damage set on PTS: Rattlecage

(2 items) Adds 1027 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 124 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 124 Spell Damage
(5 items) Gain Major Sorcery at all times, increasing your Spell Damage by 20%. Adds 97 Spell Damage

In addition to what shrb said above--that Major Sorcery is a buff that most builds will have up anyway, and thus the 5p bonus is wasted--the bigger problem is that this is a heavy armor set with healthy jewelry.

Anyron

CaptainVenom wrote: »

There's a spell damage set on PTS: Rattlecage

(2 items) Adds 1027 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 124 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 124 Spell Damage
(5 items) Gain Major Sorcery at all times, increasing your Spell Damage by 20%. Adds 97 Spell Damage

Yeah its useless set because its 5/5 heavy.. No weapons no jewelerry.. Atleast on PTS

Lord_Eomer

There should be magic damage set, its one sided descion from developers and very Stamina biased.

Good luck with this post, developera are not gonna change anything..

Savos_Saren

Rattlecage appears to be an attempt to make a viable, magical version of Dreugh King Slayer. (though the traits don't match exactly like DKS) But to answer OP's initial post:

Elf Bane- adds 2 sec to flame damage abilities
Ice Furnace- causes flame explosion when you use ice damage
Embershield- adds a flame DOT upon heavy attacks
Burning Spellweave- using flame damage can cause your spell damage to increase to 600!
Silks of the Sun- flame damage is increased by 5%

These are all magic-based sets that are also getting updated with One Tamriel. The great news is that they'll drop in ALL set pieces. So if it's a heavy armor set... just wear the jewelry and use the weapons/shield. Or just use one or two pieces of the heavy armor with the jewelry.

Also, sets like Martial Knowledge are getting updated as well. So, popping an enemy with Structured Entropy (empowered 20%), proccing Martial Knowledge (next attack will be 10% stronger), and then hitting the enemy with a powerful attack should hit pretty hard.

Rykmaar

If those +damage with specific stuff sets give a hidden bonus like Silks of the Sun does, then wouldn't a set that just carries a load of +spell damage accomplish the same thing? The only difference that I see is that you get more +damage with the specialized sets (like what, 100?).

Remember that automaton gives +health (I think) too. So there is a slight loss in offensive potential there. If they were to make a clone, it would have health and a 5pc of "increasing damage with all abilities that cost magicka" by X. Probably not as effective as a more generic DPS set. However, in principle, there should be a magicka copy of that set for fairness. If we had more elemental options, I would be okay with what we have in the three elemental focused sets. We don't have that at the moment. Staves are multi element and generic, so the benefit for those sets comes down to class. (in that case, where's the frost class?)

This really needs to get adjusted with changes to staff mechanics and splitting the weapon line/adding new ones. See @Joy_Division 's staff thread for more.

my .02

RoyJade

Remember that every heavy set will drop with healthy jewelries. No arcane jewelries for Elf Bane, Ice Furnacle, Embershield and Rattlesnake (who does have jewelries and weapons).

mr_wazzabi

RoyJade wrote: »

Remember that every heavy set will drop with healthy jewelries. No arcane jewelries for Elf Bane, Ice Furnacle, Embershield and Rattlesnake (who does have jewelries and weapons).

That's disappointing

Rohamad_Ali

We do need better Majic sets though . Julianos stacks some spell damage but doesn't have the regen like warlocks or necropotence . Would be nice to have somethings in the middle with a crit bonus like clever alchemist has .

acw37162

RoyJade wrote: »

Remember that every heavy set will drop with healthy jewelries. No arcane jewelries for Elf Bane, Ice Furnacle, Embershield and Rattlesnake (who does have jewelries and weapons).

Have you tested this since the changes?

Armor of the trainer comes in all flavors. As do the the Wrothgar sets I haven't farmed enough jewelry on test to know if they changed this or not.

RoyJade

acw37162 wrote: »

RoyJade wrote: »

Remember that every heavy set will drop with healthy jewelries. No arcane jewelries for Elf Bane, Ice Furnacle, Embershield and Rattlesnake (who does have jewelries and weapons).

Have you tested this since the changes?

Armor of the trainer comes in all flavors. As do the the Wrothgar sets I haven't farmed enough jewelry on test to know if they changed this or not.

Got 6 or 7 jewelries, all of them following this (bad) rule.
Armor of the trainee is not a heavy set, it can be in light, medium and heavy. Wrothgar set seem to get nearly no change (BoP when all "world" set are BoE). I can't absolutely confirm it because it need more testing to be sure, but actually the results I see ingame and in the forum are not good.
At least if it's true we won't have any arcane for stamina set or robust for magicka set in the future.

On, and another thing : since the TG patch, all the new and newly updated set come with jewelries who follow this rule.

Apherius

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Ysgramor and netch sets will only buff secondary abilities like flame reach and wall of elements. Ysgramor will buff ice comet, but that doesnt happen too often.

We need a magic dmg set for the nb and templars plus a flame dmg set for dk's.

It's only fair.

Automation set for stam buffs all physical dmg. This is unfair

@Wrobel
@ZOS_GinaBruno

LOL , sorry but why did you forgot the sorc , they add the Netch set i know ... BUT ALL sorcerer don't play with overload man ! please can you just add in your post that the sorcerer WITHOUT overload need a Good elemental set ( succesion set is a big @%*$) with Fire and lighning and magic damage , this will be cool . because if somone need new set it's the Sorcerer and the templar , NB and DK are on the top of magicka DD classement .... they don't need to be more cheat .

Apherius

Xvorg wrote: »

CasNation wrote: »

There already is a fire damage set. It's called silks of the sun and has been around for months.

There should be a magicka damage set though.

years actually

Talk to my sorcerer man . it makes 2 years that i wait a NON overload set for my sorcerer ( lighning damage + magic damage bonus ) . please don't talk me about the bad "succesion" set.