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Thoughts on Malestorm weapons in normal mode
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DPShiro✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, absolutely not.~ Gryphon Heart ~
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'll trade some potions for a vma wep cause apparently those are hard to afford for end game too. Lol1 -
iAmLife✭✭✭Suprised there weren't any unrelated trolling comments ... Damnit wanted to have some fun
Jokes aside... there are some great comments on here for and against the suggestions, as from what I've noticed from those who are against it are - 'I went through shiton of rounds, so many countless hours/days/months/years/eternity... and I finally got it after a hard ass workout, I want you to suffer the same! YOU SON OF A GUN, and those for Make them with [snip] trait, CP 150, half the value... pretty much a toned down version of the weapon as both sides gave good ideas, I still stand by having them somehow implemented within nMA.
Yes, there are other sets out there that too can be as good, no doubt that is true but maelstorm is [snip] MALESTORM (no pun intended
) but myself, in the slightest I'm not a PVE player and I too do PVE at occasions and yes I've been through vMA and I can handle them quite easy with my sorc (Life's hard with the stamplar there) but before I started doing good, It reminded me of those who aren't really top notch like myself, I can run my build without the need of maelstorm 100% but not everyone is the same in the game and people not wanting others to succeed is a norm, it's envious and an in-game jealousy... which can be said in IRL too...
So it probably may take awhile but I've got a feeling they will be added and by looking at the agree rate as well as those who want them in nMA, with the amount of people wanting this surely shows WE NEED THIS!
But MAN I'm suprised and disappointed there were no trolls in this thread DAMNIT, usually find trolls in every threads >.< hehe but had a good read and whichever side you're on... you're sexy... you know that right?
[Edit to remove censor bypass.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on September 15, 2016 4:25PMI'll own you fool, COME AT ME YOU SON OF A GUN, hi names Life... LIKE FOR LIFE kthnxbye1 -
LegendaryArcher✭✭✭✭All those naive people thinking you get Maelstrom weapons in vMA that are better than no-set crafted ones. DB hit the servers four months ago. Time to wake up.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates0
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iRogue32✭✭✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »All those naive people thinking you get Maelstrom weapons in vMA that are better than no-set crafted ones. DB hit the servers four months ago. Time to wake up.
vMA DW weapons and sharpened inferno staffs are BiS for minmaxed end game trial builds.Epic Synergy (rip)
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Foxic✭✭✭✭✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »All those naive people thinking you get Maelstrom weapons in vMA that are better than no-set crafted ones. DB hit the servers four months ago. Time to wake up.
vMA DW weapons and sharpened inferno staffs are BiS for minmaxed end game trial builds.
He means you're never going to get a trait you wantMechanically Challenged, PCNA competitive raid guild
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LegendaryArcher✭✭✭✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »All those naive people thinking you get Maelstrom weapons in vMA that are better than no-set crafted ones. DB hit the servers four months ago. Time to wake up.
vMA DW weapons and sharpened inferno staffs are BiS for minmaxed end game trial builds.
@iRogue32 Exactly. And I have yet to hear from someone who has gotten a Sharpened axe, bow or inferno since DB. Or pretty much anything Sharpened. And I've known hundreds of people running it every day since DB and posting their rewards in guild chat. So far, I recall one Sharpened dagger since DB in all this time. Before DB, I've seen people hitting their jackpots every 2 - 3 days, when vMA weapons only dropped in good traits.
Oh yeah, I got Sharpened things, too. Two restos. But there is no doubt over 95% of the drops are Charged, Decisive, Powered and Infused. Sharpened is a myth nowadays.Edited by LegendaryArcher on September 15, 2016 3:40PMPAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates0 -
iRogue32✭✭✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »LegendaryArcher wrote: »All those naive people thinking you get Maelstrom weapons in vMA that are better than no-set crafted ones. DB hit the servers four months ago. Time to wake up.
vMA DW weapons and sharpened inferno staffs are BiS for minmaxed end game trial builds.
@iRogue32 Exactly. And I have yet to hear from someone who has gotten a Sharpened axe, bow or inferno since DB. Or pretty much anything Sharpened. And I've known hundreds of people running it every day since DB and posting their rewards in guild chat. So far, I recall one Sharpened dagger since DB in all this time. Before DB, I've seen people hitting their jackpots every 2 - 3 days, when vMA weapons only dropped in good traits.
I have received 1 sharpened dagger, 1 sharpened inferno staff, and 1 sharpened greatsword since the DB patch. You are right that getting sharpened weapons was much easier before because there were only 3 traits in the loot table. Personally I think they should either return to that or put in a place a much smarter loot system.
However, I don't see what this has to do with Maelstrom weapons dropping in normal mode.
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LegendaryArcher✭✭✭✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »LegendaryArcher wrote: »All those naive people thinking you get Maelstrom weapons in vMA that are better than no-set crafted ones. DB hit the servers four months ago. Time to wake up.
vMA DW weapons and sharpened inferno staffs are BiS for minmaxed end game trial builds.
@iRogue32 Exactly. And I have yet to hear from someone who has gotten a Sharpened axe, bow or inferno since DB. Or pretty much anything Sharpened. And I've known hundreds of people running it every day since DB and posting their rewards in guild chat. So far, I recall one Sharpened dagger since DB in all this time. Before DB, I've seen people hitting their jackpots every 2 - 3 days, when vMA weapons only dropped in good traits.
I have received 1 sharpened dagger, 1 sharpened inferno staff, and 1 sharpened greatsword since the DB patch. You are right that getting sharpened weapons was much easier before because there were only 3 traits in the loot table. Personally I think they should either return to that or put in a place a much smarter loot system.
However, I don't see what this has to do with Maelstrom weapons dropping in normal mode.
Wow, gratz on your drops. Regarding normal, I had the (not very welcome) suggestion to put the *** trait vMA weapons in nMA (maybe with a lower drop chance?) and only leave Sharpened and Precise in vMA. I, personally, would have no problem with skillless people running around with Powered vMA lightning staffs. PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates0 -
iRogue32✭✭✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »LegendaryArcher wrote: »LegendaryArcher wrote: »All those naive people thinking you get Maelstrom weapons in vMA that are better than no-set crafted ones. DB hit the servers four months ago. Time to wake up.
vMA DW weapons and sharpened inferno staffs are BiS for minmaxed end game trial builds.
@iRogue32 Exactly. And I have yet to hear from someone who has gotten a Sharpened axe, bow or inferno since DB. Or pretty much anything Sharpened. And I've known hundreds of people running it every day since DB and posting their rewards in guild chat. So far, I recall one Sharpened dagger since DB in all this time. Before DB, I've seen people hitting their jackpots every 2 - 3 days, when vMA weapons only dropped in good traits.
I have received 1 sharpened dagger, 1 sharpened inferno staff, and 1 sharpened greatsword since the DB patch. You are right that getting sharpened weapons was much easier before because there were only 3 traits in the loot table. Personally I think they should either return to that or put in a place a much smarter loot system.
However, I don't see what this has to do with Maelstrom weapons dropping in normal mode.
Wow, gratz on your drops. Regarding normal, I had the (not very welcome) suggestion to put the *** trait vMA weapons in nMA (maybe with a lower drop chance?) and only leave Sharpened and Precise in vMA. I, personally, would have no problem with skillless people running around with Powered vMA lightning staffs.
My bad, I must have missed your post. I don't know if I could support putting Maelstrom weapons in normal (even with horrible traits) however, I do agree that vMA should not drop horrible traited items.Edited by iRogue32 on September 15, 2016 3:53PMEpic Synergy (rip)
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Stoopid_Nwah✭✭✭✭
Those people agreeing are just the noobs that can't make it through vmaSuprised there weren't any unrelated trolling comments ... Damnit wanted to have some fun
Jokes aside... there are some great comments on here for and against the suggestions, as from what I've noticed from those who are against it are - 'I went through shiton of rounds, so many countless hours/days/months/years/eternity... and I finally got it after a hard ass workout, I want you to suffer the same! YOU SON OF A GUN, and those for Make them with [snip] trait, CP 150, half the value... pretty much a toned down version of the weapon as both sides gave good ideas, I still stand by having them somehow implemented within nMA.
Yes, there are other sets out there that too can be as good, no doubt that is true but maelstorm is [snip] MALESTORM (no pun intended ) but myself, in the slightest I'm not a PVE player and I too do PVE at occasions and yes I've been through vMA and I can handle them quite easy with my sorc (Life's hard with the stamplar there) but before I started doing good, It reminded me of those who aren't really top notch like myself, I can run my build without the need of maelstorm 100% but not everyone is the same in the game and people not wanting others to succeed is a norm, it's envious and an in-game jealousy... which can be said in IRL too...
So it probably may take awhile but I've got a feeling they will be added and by looking at the agree rate as well as those who want them in nMA, with the amount of people wanting this surely shows WE NEED THIS!
But MAN I'm suprised and disappointed there were no trolls in this thread DAMNIT, usually find trolls in every threads >.< hehe but had a good read and whichever side you're on... you're sexy... you know that right?
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... Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on September 15, 2016 4:25PM1 -
Espica✭✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »Why is this discussion going on? Since when do you get anything useful from vMA?
Sorry, but whoever is posting here hasn't been running it for quite some time. Since DB you cannot get useful vMA weapons from running vMA. Neither the chest, nor the leaderboard. The chance of getting them is negligibly small. Only 18% of farmers will get their weapon after 150 vMA runs. 20% will not get their weapon after 1000+ runs.
What are we even talking about?
Someone had an amazing suggestion: Let Maelstrom weapons drop in nMA in Decisive, Charged, Powered, Defending, etc. and let vMA drop only Sharpened and Precise. All problems solved. No coding for a token system required.
That way it would still take 40 - 50 runs on average to get the specific weapon, which is a fair amount of runs in my opinion, while the chance to not get the desired weapon after 1000+ runs would be below 1% (and not 20% as it is now).
@ZOS_Finn
Even if I get a maelstrom dagger in powered it will still outperform any sharpened 1h weapon (due to the enchantement) in the game. The suggestion is stupid. Leave maelstrom weapons to Veteran. If I see another stupid post like this I will start reporting people.......
My friend said a very true thing the other day:Elitists doesn´t ruin a game, casual player does, since they always want all the content to be adjusted to their "lifestyle". Casuals doesn´t spend the amount of time that some content in the game requires, but still want to experience/perform it like the more experienced ones, and on top of that they still want the same "rewards" but not putting in effort
Have you ever thought that 'casuals' are what's keeping this game alive most likely? As I said in other topic, this game keeps going thanks to Crown Store sells.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If they were to drop, they would have to be CP150, not CP160. The normal content is far too easy to complete for BiS weapons. Even if they drop in white or green, it's not expensive at all to improve them.0 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
Those people agreeing are just the noobs that can't make it through vmaSuprised there weren't any unrelated trolling comments ... Damnit wanted to have some fun
Jokes aside... there are some great comments on here for and against the suggestions, as from what I've noticed from those who are against it are - 'I went through shiton of rounds, so many countless hours/days/months/years/eternity... and I finally got it after a hard ass workout, I want you to suffer the same! YOU SON OF A GUN, and those for Make them with [snip] trait, CP 150, half the value... pretty much a toned down version of the weapon as both sides gave good ideas, I still stand by having them somehow implemented within nMA.
Yes, there are other sets out there that too can be as good, no doubt that is true but maelstorm is [snip] MALESTORM (no pun intended ) but myself, in the slightest I'm not a PVE player and I too do PVE at occasions and yes I've been through vMA and I can handle them quite easy with my sorc (Life's hard with the stamplar there) but before I started doing good, It reminded me of those who aren't really top notch like myself, I can run my build without the need of maelstorm 100% but not everyone is the same in the game and people not wanting others to succeed is a norm, it's envious and an in-game jealousy... which can be said in IRL too...
So it probably may take awhile but I've got a feeling they will be added and by looking at the agree rate as well as those who want them in nMA, with the amount of people wanting this surely shows WE NEED THIS!
But MAN I'm suprised and disappointed there were no trolls in this thread DAMNIT, usually find trolls in every threads >.< hehe but had a good read and whichever side you're on... you're sexy... you know that right?
[Edit to remove censor bypass.]...
Already ran it and I agreed with him, maybe complete it first on vet than let weps have a chance to drop in normal after you get stormproof. All of a sudden everyone forgets master weps dropped in dsa at lower vr. Those we're BiS at the time.we also seemed to have a better chance at good traits.Edited by Mojmir on September 18, 2016 7:30AM0 -
Stoopid_Nwah✭✭✭✭
Lol I just was giving OP the troll response they requested. I'd be fine if they dropped on normal after you've successfully ran it on vet. Sure would make farming easier.Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
Those people agreeing are just the noobs that can't make it through vmaSuprised there weren't any unrelated trolling comments ... Damnit wanted to have some fun
Jokes aside... there are some great comments on here for and against the suggestions, as from what I've noticed from those who are against it are - 'I went through shiton of rounds, so many countless hours/days/months/years/eternity... and I finally got it after a hard ass workout, I want you to suffer the same! YOU SON OF A GUN, and those for Make them with [snip] trait, CP 150, half the value... pretty much a toned down version of the weapon as both sides gave good ideas, I still stand by having them somehow implemented within nMA.
Yes, there are other sets out there that too can be as good, no doubt that is true but maelstorm is [snip] MALESTORM (no pun intended ) but myself, in the slightest I'm not a PVE player and I too do PVE at occasions and yes I've been through vMA and I can handle them quite easy with my sorc (Life's hard with the stamplar there) but before I started doing good, It reminded me of those who aren't really top notch like myself, I can run my build without the need of maelstorm 100% but not everyone is the same in the game and people not wanting others to succeed is a norm, it's envious and an in-game jealousy... which can be said in IRL too...
So it probably may take awhile but I've got a feeling they will be added and by looking at the agree rate as well as those who want them in nMA, with the amount of people wanting this surely shows WE NEED THIS!
But MAN I'm suprised and disappointed there were no trolls in this thread DAMNIT, usually find trolls in every threads >.< hehe but had a good read and whichever side you're on... you're sexy... you know that right?
[Edit to remove censor bypass.]...
Already ran it and I agreed with him, maybe complete it first on vet than let weps have a chance to drop in normal after you get stormproof. All of a sudden everyone forgets master weps dropped in dsa at lower vr. Those we're BiS at the time.we also seemed to have a better chance at good traits.
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✭Oh ... one of these threads again?
I'll tell you how this works.
A posts something about adding Maelstrom/Master weapons on normal.
B likes it
C doesnt like it and calls his guild buddies
D-Z are flaming this thread until no one wants to read it anymore
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Wolfchild07✭✭✭✭✭Even if they did, I still wouldn't grind it. RNG is a bad way to handle gear acquisition.0 -
Jar_Ek✭✭✭✭✭Ok. If maelstrom weapons were to drop from nmsa, it should not be after you've finished vmsa just to make the hell of getting them better that would be wrong on so many levels.
If they are to drop in nmsa, then they should be lower quality enchants (ie not as good), and would thus not become bis just by temper upgrades.1
