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Bugs and Ninja Nerfing: lightning staff, Fighter's guild, speed, and pets... What else?
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asneakybanana✭✭✭✭✭Can the splash damage crit at least? Right now on live I believe it cannot crit.
It shouldn't be able to crit since the staff attack that the damage is based on can crit. Similar to how the Funnel health heal could crit twice thus resulting in much larger than normal heals. If the splash could crit as well it would put the build a little over the top IMO. As it is you can get each tick of lightning staff critting for 15k+ if you could have the splash crit you could see 100k+ on the splash at the end of the channel.Asneakybanana AD DK Former emperor of Chrysamere and Chillrend. World first hardmode Hel'ra and Quake con winner (Alliance rank 25)Sweat Squad
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RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Thanks for the screenshots! This is, indeed, a bug and not an intended change.
If you have bug reports or even want to give feedback, please make sure you're posting new threads instead of replying in existing threads with different topics. It's a lot harder for us to track when multiple topics are in a single thread. Thanks!
Edit: The issue with Necrotic Orb is also a bug.
Thanks, that's some big good news
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dagonbeer✭✭✭asneakybanana wrote: »Can the splash damage crit at least? Right now on live I believe it cannot crit.
It shouldn't be able to crit since the staff attack that the damage is based on can crit. Similar to how the Funnel health heal could crit twice thus resulting in much larger than normal heals. If the splash could crit as well it would put the build a little over the top IMO. As it is you can get each tick of lightning staff critting for 15k+ if you could have the splash crit you could see 100k+ on the splash at the end of the channel.
Ah, thanks for the insight. I tested the lightning staff a few months back when I had a sharpened vma one drop, and I remember seeing that the aoe ticks were always uniform, but didn't realize that the final tick matched the ST damage (and hence crit).
I don't actually use lightning myself though, I just liked the idea that inferno wasn't the only viable PvE weapon.0 -
SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭@Toast_STS
That's right, you didn't."Doesn't explain any distance bonus as the player was further away from the targets on the initial tick." Sorry, I may not have explained it correctly. It has nothing to do with the player distance. It's the distance between the enemy you hit with the heavy attack and the enemies that will receive the splash damage. Tightly stacked mobs will take more damage.
Not true, check your sources.Pretty sure splash damage is based off distance from the main target. An updated tooltip would help clarify this.
@hrothbern
Read OP, I clearly said...I refer to your own post #221, where you mention the lower health, without the full picture of that change that should include the changed "damage taken" limits of 45% and 10%.
My post does mention this additional change that does in fact strengthen the survivability of the pets. It was not a stealth nerf.
Which is exactly what I've done.Just letting those on PTS know lightning staff heavy attack AoE effect was reduced to only procs on the final hit.
Can someone point to me where it says this in the patch notes?
If anyone else comes across excluded changes please post on the forums, I am looking for more.
My post that you've linked is about my findings on a bug.
If you don't like it, go make a discussion, because this is not the place.
Since we are referring to #221, on #261 you claimed that there is no "full picture" because the damage cap on pets was excluded, however, I quoted the first mention of the damage cap ever on the forums by Wrobel on #251 aside from the moral/purpose of this discussion. You had over 6 hours to read #251 before your post was made, I am not convinced that you did in addition to the OP.
If you are still lost, I would be happy to direct you to: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/291152/why-there-is-pts#latest
@ZOS_GinaBruno
You're welcome.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Thanks for the screenshots! This is, indeed, a bug and not an intended change.
If you have bug reports or even want to give feedback, please make sure you're posting new threads instead of replying in existing threads with different topics. It's a lot harder for us to track when multiple topics are in a single thread. Thanks!
Edit: The issue with Necrotic Orb is also a bug.
I am glad to hear that they are bugs and that you've got back to me... Greatly appreciated, thanks!!~ Edited by SirMewser on September 14, 2016 12:22AM0 -
Toast_STS✭✭✭✭
@Toast_STSI will still be using lightning staff next update. The sergeants mail fix is going to help me out a lot. Finally got my sergeants jewelry too. 5 light 2 heavy full aether and sergeants mail sets +vMA lightning staff and I got a 87k heavy attack http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Toast STS/video/21425150 (last 10 seconds of clip). Probably going to get bored of this build soon though, makes the game too easy.
Get rekt You can forget your sergeants mail now.
You know why ? They completely overhauled lightning staff heavy attacks.
So far, every single tick profits from things like sergeants mail, undaunted weaver, molten weapons and all these things.
But now, only the last tick profits from them. So your damage will be pitiful. Sorry
@Dracane What are you talking about? I just tested it on PTS and sergeant's mail still buff every tick.VR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0 -
Toast_STS✭✭✭✭@SirMewser
Is there a good source? This is just what I have observed from testing it myself.Edited by Toast_STS on September 14, 2016 6:48AMVR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0 -
SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭@SirMewser
Is there a good source? This is just what I have observed from testing it myself.
My problem with what you are claiming is that I am not able to reproduce different output during a channel nor consecutive channels regardless of the primary target's location on other nearby NPCs on both Live and PTS.
I have not seen a assessment of the skill itself from your end either.
Your original post said you are "pretty sure" but I want you to be certain.
I need evidence of the mechanic, how it is produced. At least two or more consecutive heavy attack recordings of the lightning staff heavy attack channel on both PTS and current Live in instances where; the same NPCs are tested in a mob, and different NPCs are tested in a mob.
The test is not valid when only one channel of a heavy attack is used. the NPCs could not move toward/away from the primary target nor player (CC), no damage output is enabled (base game and addons are fine).Edited by SirMewser on September 14, 2016 10:28AM0 -
Toast_STS✭✭✭✭I do not have any space on my PC for video capture. I had to delete everything just to fit the PTS. It's pretty easy to test with 30 seconds of using with a lightning staff. The post you referenced (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3357961#Comment_3357961) has been debunked by another tester. Just remove it from the OP.Edited by Toast_STS on September 14, 2016 8:24PMVR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0
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Toast_STS✭✭✭✭sorry triple post =(Edited by Toast_STS on September 14, 2016 8:25PMVR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0
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Toast_STS✭✭✭✭sorry triple post =(Edited by Toast_STS on September 14, 2016 8:25PMVR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0
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SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭I do not have any space on my PC for video capture. I had to delete everything just to fit the PTS. It's pretty easy to test [as you said you've done] with 30 seconds of using with a lightning staff. The post you referenced (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3357961#Comment_3357961) has been debunked by another tester. Just remove it from the OP.
No worries, that post helped clarify the damage ratio issue, thanks.
Updated OP.Edited by SirMewser on September 14, 2016 9:13PM1 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They're un-nerfing the Lightning staves!
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✭They're un-nerfing the Lightning staves!
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/291949
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RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭They're un-nerfing the Lightning staves!
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/291949
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