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Malestorm weapons are too OP!!
Bigevilpeter
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Really the only real endgame weapons specially for dual wield are Malestorm weapons, they can alone add like 15k DPS or something no other full set in the game can do that. Also the way to get them is to do solo content for months to get the right one!!
What the heck?? What kind of Logic is that for an MMO? either make similar weapons drop in the game's group content like trials and dungeon or nerf Malestorm weapons so that they don't feel like a must!!
What the heck?? What kind of Logic is that for an MMO? either make similar weapons drop in the game's group content like trials and dungeon or nerf Malestorm weapons so that they don't feel like a must!!
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✭✭Darth_Trumpious wrote: »Where's the lol button when you need one
Oh here it is
lol
Thank you that really added a lot to the topic
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Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Just out of curiosity, do you actually have maelstrom DW weapons?
Nope but I read a lot about them and pro's say they add a but ton of damage, personally I won't spend that much time doing solo content or I would just go play another single player gameEdited by Bigevilpeter on September 1, 2016 10:08AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I have them, solo content should not award end game best in slot weapons, period.
For a game built upon synergies and group play the amount of rng and time needed to get those weapons is absurd, I feel like maelstrom should be awarded but not like how it is#MOREORBS20 -
LegendaryArcher✭✭✭✭Yes, vMA weapons are strong and that's ok. The only thing wrong about it is how ZOS approached it. They handed them out like candy in Sharpened and Precise before DB, and now it's almost impossible to get a usable weapon due to trait pollution of the loot table.
It's extremely unfair. Their decision to add those traits in DB is what drove me away from ESO.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates5 -
Darth_Trumpious✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »
I can assure you that the maelstrom DW weapons are sweet to have, but definitely not a must. You probably got mistaken by these claims and there are more viable sets around in-game1 -
optouter✭After shadow I have been running 5 v.o. 5 hunding and 2 velidreth. I don't have sharpened maelstrom weapons or any daggers for that matter (30 runs and counting) and it works wonders.1
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✭3k weapon damage to my spammable, to Dawnbreaker's dot and to my rearming trap and poison injection is indeed a large boost. It's too amazing to choose something else. Even my infused axe is better than my previous crafted one.
And I don't even speak about stamDK who get such a boost on their venomous claw.
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xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭After shadow I have been running 5 v.o. 5 hunding and 2 velidreth. I don't have sharpened maelstrom weapons or any daggers for that matter (30 runs and counting) and it works wonders.
You dont need sharpned ones. Take whichever you get. Even defending/ charged ones are better than any crafted options.
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Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Best weapons in the game come from solo content.
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✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Really the only real endgame weapons specially for dual wield are Malestorm weapons, they can alone add like 15k DPS or something no other full set in the game can do that. Also the way to get them is to do solo content for months to get the right one!!
What the heck?? What kind of Logic is that for an MMO? either make similar weapons drop in the game's group content like trials and dungeon or nerf Malestorm weapons so that they don't feel like a must!!
lol xD , 15K dps with a weapons . what did you want ? a nerf of Vma wepons because it's too difficult , and because you can loot them , you want destroy tthem ? you want chance to loot them in Nma in green quality ? please no . they not add 15K dps but... i play only with the destro staff , maybe bow and stam weapon add 5K + but not much than 10 K man . the stuff d'ont do the dps .0 -
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✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Really the only real endgame weapons specially for dual wield are Malestorm weapons, they can alone add like 15k DPS or something no other full set in the game can do that. Also the way to get them is to do solo content for months to get the right one!!
What the heck?? What kind of Logic is that for an MMO? either make similar weapons drop in the game's group content like trials and dungeon or nerf Malestorm weapons so that they don't feel like a must!!
MAELSTROM
MAEL-STROM
Mael, not male. Strom, not storm.
I understand autocorrect is a pain in the arse sometimes, but maelstrom is a real word and if you use it then autocorrect does start to follow your lead.Xbox NA4 -
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✭It has to be like this or hardly anyone would buy Wrothgar.
You want Best In Slot weapons, time to PAY ))2 -
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✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Best weapons in the game come from solo content.
#JUSTMMOTHINGS
Don't worry it's just a matter of time before they come from Crown Crates. What you'll need to do then is group before you open the crate... presto! Group content.0 -
Solinur✭✭✭They migh be the best weapons, and they might add a considerable amount of dps (btw its pointless to claim they are doing 15k dps, because its rather a % increase so it depends on what you are doing anyway) But the games is beatable without them. I would say they add less then 5% for magicka classes and between 5-10% for stam?@Solinur Pact EU - PC (Solinur: Templar - Magicka DD, Moves-like-Günther: Sorcerer - Stamina DD, Kinara Sol: Templar - Stamina DD, )
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✭DW is the only dps weapon that lets you work on 5/5/2 builds and the like. Obviously Maelstrom weapons have to compensate that loss or else nobody would even want to use them.
I personally disagree with the solo content complaints. On the contrary, I'm quite glad ZOS designed this type of challenging content (btw not the 1st MMO developer that does this solo instance content
) because not all of us have the time nor the patience to deal with raid grouping settings. PC/DC/NAserver
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CasNation✭✭✭✭✭I agree that they are strictly too powerful. I don't have a problem with them being BiS, but they are BiS by such a large margin. I mean, a 5-7% boost over other option would still be great, but instead they give you, what? Maybe a 30% increase? That's insane. If you don't beleive that, go check out Alcast's stam sorc DPS test video. Just a simple bloodspawn test, but he does the rotation both with amd without vMA weapons. The difference is about 10k. This difference is likely to even increase in mobile fights where stick on DoTs increase in importance due to not being able to have 100% boss dps time.Edited by CasNation on September 1, 2016 12:27PMPC NA AD
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✭✭They migh be the best weapons, and they might add a considerable amount of dps (btw its pointless to claim they are doing 15k dps, because its rather a % increase so it depends on what you are doing anyway) But the games is beatable without them. I would say they add less then 5% for magicka classes and between 5-10% for stam?
lol no....they add nearly 10k DPS without group-buff for a stam-DK. So even more if you add warhorns, armor reductions combat prayer and so on.
https://youtu.be/ANBbHpB3wKY
42.5k/34k =1.25 --> 25% DPS-Increase --> not strong, only 5...10%Noobplar1 -
sluice✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Really the only real endgame weapons specially for dual wield are Malestorm weapons, they can alone add like 15k DPS or something no other full set in the game can do that. Also the way to get them is to do solo content for months to get the right one!!
What the heck?? What kind of Logic is that for an MMO? either make similar weapons drop in the game's group content like trials and dungeon or nerf Malestorm weapons so that they don't feel like a must!!
lol xD , 15K dps with a weapons . what did you want ? a nerf of Vma wepons because it's too difficult , and because you can loot them , you want destroy tthem ? you want chance to loot them in Nma in green quality ? please no . they not add 15K dps but... i play only with the destro staff , maybe bow and stam weapon add 5K + but not much than 10 K man . the stuff d'ont do the dps .
Exactly! The player behind the controller / keyboard does the dps!
But we all wish Maelstrom weapon would be a bit easier to get...PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
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It really only applies to Stam Builds. DW and Bow are the most powerful Maelstrom weapons, and stam builds can easily benefit from both simultaneously. The inferno staff is nice but it isn't unabalanced, and there is no beneficial way to benefit from other maelstrom weapons at the same time.Bigevilpeter wrote: »Really the only real endgame weapons specially for dual wield are Malestorm weapons, they can alone add like 15k DPS or something no other full set in the game can do that. Also the way to get them is to do solo content for months to get the right one!!
What the heck?? What kind of Logic is that for an MMO? either make similar weapons drop in the game's group content like trials and dungeon or nerf Malestorm weapons so that they don't feel like a must!!
I know people that can put up solid dps without a Maelstrom Inferno Staff that is competitive when compared to people that use a Maelstrom Inferno Staff. I don't know anyone without Maelstrom DW weapons that can compete with a solid stam build that has them.Edited by timidobserver on September 1, 2016 12:49PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭3k weapon damage to my spammable, to Dawnbreaker's dot and to my rearming trap and poison injection is indeed a large boost. It's too amazing to choose something else. Even my infused axe is better than my previous crafted one.
And I don't even speak about stamDK who get such a boost on their venomous claw.
great.. sounds balanced.
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coolermh✭✭✭vMSA is not even hard anymore. Just make a sorc craft some julianos, grap some kena and willpower and youll be beating it in no time. There is nothing wrong with having to work a bit to get something you want rather then just having the best in slot gear handed to you.-MrHeid625
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Solinur✭✭✭They migh be the best weapons, and they might add a considerable amount of dps (btw its pointless to claim they are doing 15k dps, because its rather a % increase so it depends on what you are doing anyway) But the games is beatable without them. I would say they add less then 5% for magicka classes and between 5-10% for stam?
lol no....they add nearly 10k DPS without group-buff for a stam-DK. So even more if you add warhorns, armor reductions combat prayer and so on.
42.5k/34k =1.25 --> 25% DPS-Increase --> not strong, only 5...10%
Oh I know too little about stam classes
. Pretty impressive. I guess that is a bit too much.
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Neophyte✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Best weapons in the game come from solo content.
#JUSTMMOTHINGS
Don't worry it's just a matter of time before they come from Crown Crates. What you'll need to do then is group before you open the crate... presto! Group content.
I very much doubt that will happen, they never did anything like that for the master weapons from DSA. But if they wanted to make money crates could be an option or open a maelstrom vendor once a week where you may pay silly amount of gold (not AP) to get a weapon.again like cyro vendor a different weapon a week. But again that would defeat the purpose of having leaderboards (unless they scraped them too)
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✭✭✭What kind of mmo logic is that?
Is every single mmo logic have you never played one?
Im confused. People like you want the best weapons to be easily obtained then will moan at the end game gear being too common and so new stuff should be released.
Maybe you should stop trying so hard to min/max so you can make a balanced enough build to walk though maelstrom to get your weapons...0 -
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✭✭✭Master Weapons drop from PvE group content. MA weapons drop from solo content. Next tier of Master/MA weapons will drop from PvP areans? I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.2 -
SunBro✭✭Idk why ppl complain about maelstrom so much...it helps you become a better player and it rewards you for it. Who cares if it's solo..I'd rather that than ppl AFK in a group and getting rewarded. God forbid we gotta work for anything2
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✭✭a friend of mine got 46k on bloodspawn with one warhorn and combat prayer, no maelstrom weapons.
They are strong yes, but its fully possible to create builds without them.PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
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