Dark Shaman Costume RANT

Tyrion87

Well, there are two things that discourage me to buy this costume and it is not the price (which is too high though).

First thing is the front of the helm, especially the mouth part, which looks really unnatural and poorly executed and reminds me of the old games from early 2000's. The helm should be the highlight of this particular costume!!!

Second thing is the robe which is almost the same as the one from Ashlander's pack:

Gargath

Hard to understand why would you like to pay so much in real money to have an ugly looking costume, ah okay... for the naked torso with a skirt, if not for the ugly helmet, because you hide it asap .

Maybe if the helmet feathers were more in Daggerfall Covenant style, could look a bit better, but imho the whole heavy helmet style just doesn't fit to the rest in light.

That makes me happy, because imo simple Shoud of the Lich armor set looks much more better with open crown helmet and light similar shaped robe/skirt, oh just without naked torso.... but also no need to spend bucks .

Marrtha

Tyrion87 wrote: »

Well, there are two things that discourage me to buy this costume and it is not the price (which is too high though).

First thing is the front of the helm, especially the mouth part, which looks really unnatural and poorly executed and reminds me of the old games from early 2000's. The helm should be the highlight of this particular costume!!!

Second thing is the robe which is almost the same as the one from Ashlander's pack:

LOL! Too funny

altemriel

andreasranasen wrote: »

Who created this horribly designed costume? Will we get a refund? Can we talk about the headpiece for a second? The hair/feathers is like something out of the movie Hairspray.. IT DOESN'T MOVE! It looks like something sticky your cat threw up and you decided to place it on top of the headpiece.

Zenimax really need to look into hiring new artists capable of designing Crown Store items that works and looks good. I suggest you look up Gnomom School of Visual Effects in LA. We eat designers like yours for breakfast.

1200 Crowns for this costume. That's $14.99. The costume really should be 500 Crowns. You can't charge for something thinking your product is Louis Vuitton, when it really is H&M quality.

EDIT: If you can't add movement to certain things such as costumes/headpieces/hairstyles, then don't add those styles at all if you know they won't look good or look natural. I expected the headpiece to atleast move like the ingame ponytails does.

EDIT 2: It's apparently supposed to be feathers.. Like where did your staff get their animation degree from? For rrrrreals

while I agree with you that the costume looks pretty bad, you should know that it is not possible to refund once bought crown store items (it is even in some ZOS rules, I do not know where exactly).

psychotic13

Mettaricana wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

PREVIEW

YOU CANT PREVIEW MOVEMENT

Since when do ANY costumes have moment? They don't, and never will as stated by ZOS numerous times when people asked about moving capes and cloaks.

I'm pretty sure the armor flaps that people so despise have movement.

We can't have capes yet hair, flaps, tails, long grass, trees can move and bounce with us just fine I call lazy

They actually explained why their isn't capes, it not as simple as you think to make it 'look good'

Lysette

If the helmet looks bad or not is a matter of taste in the end - some will like it, some won't - and sometimes opinions about that can even change. Me for example, I did not like the "kiss me not" hat and found it really silly - well it is, on most of my characters it would just look silly ... but then I put it onto my Khajiit and suddenly it looked good and now after he is wearing that hat for quite a while, I think it looks awesome on him. So have a little patience, you might like that helmet at some point in time - just because you do not like it on the first try does not mean, you could not like it at a later time.

Doctordarkspawn

Didn't buy it because price.

AnviOfVai

alright, alright granted the helmet is HORRIBLE. but the design of the costume on female characters is amazing, its not bad on males either! I like it without the helmet

Asardes

Saw one on a big Orc character in Craglorn a few days ago. The feathers were dyed pink

code65536

Tyrion87 wrote: »

Well, there are two things that discourage me to buy this costume and it is not the price (which is too high though).

First thing is the front of the helm, especially the mouth part, which looks really unnatural and poorly executed and reminds me of the old games from early 2000's. The helm should be the highlight of this particular costume!!!

Second thing is the robe which is almost the same as the one from Ashlander's pack:

The bottom part isn't "almost" exactly the same. It is exactly the same. The best way to see is to preview one of the two robed Ashlander costumes, and then immediately switch to previewing the Dark Shaman. Switch back and forth, and you'll see that is the exact same texture, exact same pattern, every stitch is in the exact same place, etc. (except for a different dye, but you're going to be changing that anyways).

The only thing that really stands apart is the whole bare chest (or skimpy bikini chest) portion. Which, to be fair, is probably the biggest selling point for many players, anyway...

milkbox

Funny, I've been wearing this for months, no crowns spent.

Barbaric jerkin and Daedric breeches.

the_man_of_steal

I think the Dark Shaman Costume looks pretty cool and I like that it shows off a character that has added body tattoos to them and art like that. I just didn't buy it because its way too expensive in my opinion and I want to spend my crowns on other things first. Still think its cool and I don't really understand OP's complaint... maybe if someone included a video clip of them running with it while under various dyes?

waterfairy

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

. but the design of the costume on female characters is amazing,

This right here is why it's selling for 1200 crowns...the open chest for females.

Personally I think it looks stupid on both sexes but to each their own. The helm is ridiculous, arm armor with nothing on the chest doesn't make sense and a skirt with no shirt looks bad, especially on males.

Eirella

I actually really like the costume!

negbert

I love it. I always hide helmet on everything though.

Daemons_Bane

@milkbox, That chest you wear is HORRIBLE that tooth kills it, every time I look at it.. plus the gloves are bad too I much prefer the costume

Aquanova

Just hide the helmet. Looks terrific on my female characters.

Slurg

I saw this on someone in the bank and it looked ok, but I would expect it to be much higher quality for what it costs, and not reusing the bottom piece from an existing costume. I prefer armor over the bare chested look, but I'm sure a lot of people will buy it for that feature alone.

Marrtha

There you have another SS. As I've said, good for showing off your weird upper body parts.

Edit: Sorry for the *** quality, uploading kills it. Or maybe my uploading skills kill it. Unsure.

Schizoid-man

Attack it with the dyes and it doesn't have to look quite so 'dark'.....
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ADarklore

Vigarr wrote: »

katiesmith12341 wrote: »

. but the design of the costume on female characters is amazing,

This right here is why it's selling for 1200 crowns...the open chest for females.

Personally I think it looks stupid on both sexes but to each their own. The helm is ridiculous, arm armor with nothing on the chest doesn't make sense and a skirt with no shirt looks bad, especially on males.

Then I suggest never going to Scotland or attending any Scottish events.

Mashille

O Hoh Hoh.

I like this thread and where it's going.

Let's be done with bad and lazy Costume design.

@Tyrion87

The pure fact they used an Old Part of a costume made ages ago is ridiculous and shows how lazy ZOS are nowadays.

I will once again reference the Breton Hero Costume:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/280267/yes-i-am-going-to-keep-hurling-abuse-at-the-breton-costume#latest

Thevampirenight

I personally like the dark shaman costume and I keep the helm off, or wear a hat with it. They did a really good job with it, so for those that are complaining about it seriously, they did a really good epic costume here. I give them points on this one.

Thevampirenight

psychotic13 wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

PREVIEW

YOU CANT PREVIEW MOVEMENT

Since when do ANY costumes have moment? They don't, and never will as stated by ZOS numerous times when people asked about moving capes and cloaks.

I'm pretty sure the armor flaps that people so despise have movement.

We can't have capes yet hair, flaps, tails, long grass, trees can move and bounce with us just fine I call lazy

They actually explained why their isn't capes, it not as simple as you think to make it 'look good'

If you look at the Neriads they do have what looks like a bottom cape and it is animated. They could add something like that to an outfit. So basically they already have it in the game itself, but its not a full on cape no, just the bottom part. Go to the middle of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rWLstvjz34 you will see how they did it. Its not perfect but its good enough that they could do it with a few outfits. So I know they have the capiblity to add a limited form of cape even if its just on your bottem like the neriads

raidentenshu_ESO

I really do like this costume. I'm actually quite surprised to see that the shoulder armors isn't floating up into the air like what you see with other shoulder armors. That's a shocker!

I really do like this costume... thinking of wearing it for a while.

andreasranasen

OP RESPONDS

From reading posts on here I feel like people clearly don't have a design/arts backgrounds. People keep saying its a great costume, BUT without the helmet. The whole point of the Dark 'Shaman' costume is the helmet. Without the helmet it's really just a top bikini and a skirt. That doesn't make it a Dark Shaman costume. And it's also a recycled skirt from another costume. The headpiece is obviously what makes it the Dark Shaman costume. It's the focal point of the costume and what should make it unique and stand out from others. I bought the costume knowing the skirt would not flow or have movement, but simply expected the top-part what looks like hair from a far but really are feathers to have some sort of movement. Most long hairstyles have movement in ESO. And that's what I expected to see. This could have easily been implemented. Right now it looks extremely unnatural. So as of right now, the costume is only good enough to wear without the helmet since that's what everyone seems to be wearing it for. To wear it without the helmet. So is a bikini and a skirt worth 1200 crowns? Is it still Dark Shaman-esque in your opinion?

CP5

JarlUlfric wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Who created this horribly designed costume? Will we get a refund? Can we talk about the headpiece for a second? The hair is like something out of the movie Hairspray.. IT DOESN'T MOVE! It looks like something sticky your cat threw up and you decided to place it on top of the headpiece.

Zenimax really need to look into hiring new artists capable of designing Crown Store items that works and looks good. I suggest you look up Gnomom School of Visual Effects in LA. We eat designers like yours for breakfast.

1500 Crowns for this costume. That's $14.99. The costume really should be 500 Crowns. You can't charge for something thinking your product is Louis Vuitton, when it really is H&M quality.

I bought it, I think it's pretty awesome. About time we get some better male costumes. I knew full well from PTS that I would NEVER wear it with the helmet, without the helmet it ROCKS. Besides that, they've already said they cannot create 'moving' animations because of the game engine, which is why we don't have cloaks and capes.

Bruh, tabards move when you run and jump and all that. Your whole point is invalid. It's just laziness on their behalf.

Tabards "move" just as much as a robe does, and thats to say not at all. If you are familiar with animation what you see there is the mesh being directly tied to the skeleton, causing the clothing itself to deform during movement. It doesn't flap or sway at all. ZOS said a while ago why we don't have cloaks or capes in game, and adding something that flaps around like that is system intensive.

ADarklore

CP5 wrote: »

JarlUlfric wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Who created this horribly designed costume? Will we get a refund? Can we talk about the headpiece for a second? The hair is like something out of the movie Hairspray.. IT DOESN'T MOVE! It looks like something sticky your cat threw up and you decided to place it on top of the headpiece.

Zenimax really need to look into hiring new artists capable of designing Crown Store items that works and looks good. I suggest you look up Gnomom School of Visual Effects in LA. We eat designers like yours for breakfast.

1500 Crowns for this costume. That's $14.99. The costume really should be 500 Crowns. You can't charge for something thinking your product is Louis Vuitton, when it really is H&M quality.

I bought it, I think it's pretty awesome. About time we get some better male costumes. I knew full well from PTS that I would NEVER wear it with the helmet, without the helmet it ROCKS. Besides that, they've already said they cannot create 'moving' animations because of the game engine, which is why we don't have cloaks and capes.

Bruh, tabards move when you run and jump and all that. Your whole point is invalid. It's just laziness on their behalf.

Tabards "move" just as much as a robe does, and thats to say not at all. If you are familiar with animation what you see there is the mesh being directly tied to the skeleton, causing the clothing itself to deform during movement. It doesn't flap or sway at all. ZOS said a while ago why we don't have cloaks or capes in game, and adding something that flaps around like that is system intensive.

^THIS! Sure, parts of the costume 'move' but they move in correspondence with character movement, if you're standing still, they don't 'move freely in the breeze'... every armor movement is tied to character movement. They've said before that adding 'animated objects' particularly armor would cause more FPS problems and lag with the system having to handle the extra animation.

ADarklore

andreasranasen wrote: »

OP RESPONDS

From reading posts on here I feel like people clearly don't have a design/arts backgrounds. People keep saying its a great costume, BUT without the helmet. The whole point of the Dark 'Shaman' costume is the helmet. Without the helmet it's really just a top bikini and a skirt. That doesn't make it a Dark Shaman costume. And it's also a recycled skirt from another costume. The headpiece is obviously what makes it the Dark Shaman costume. It's the focal point of the costume and what should make it unique and stand out from others. I bought the costume knowing the skirt would not flow or have movement, but simply expected the top-part what looks like hair from a far but really are feathers to have some sort of movement. Most long hairstyles have movement in ESO. And that's what I expected to see. This could have easily been implemented. Right now it looks extremely unnatural. So as of right now, the costume is only good enough to wear without the helmet since that's what everyone seems to be wearing it for. To wear it without the helmet. So is a bikini and a skirt worth 1200 crowns? Is it still Dark Shaman-esque in your opinion?

You're quite arrogant, have you noticed that? Clearly people don't NEED a design/arts background to like something or appreciate what it brings to their character. You even said, "People keep saying its a great costume, BUT without the helmet. The whole point of the Dark 'Shaman' costume is the helmet"; you arrogantly keep saying the helmet 'is the whole point' when that is YOUR OPINION... clearly, other people feel differently. Also, you seem to keep forgetting that this is the first 'shirtless' costume available for male characters when many people have been clamoring for more revealing male costumes. Regardless of whether or not the bottom is reused, it still is a well-done costume overall IMO... without the helmet... and if you haven't noticed, there are a LOT of players in-game who don't utilize helmets... and even if they do, as others stated, there are hats and more hats will be added over time.

Pandorii

I'd like the costume more if the dye would stick to the middle part of the skirt.