Yes, I am going to keep Hurling Abuse at the Breton Costume.

Mashille

My previous thread was primarily about the Cloak of The Breton Hero Costume and how appalling it looked. So I am going to create a new Thread that shows how everything else about the Costume is terrible too

All of this was from my comments made on my previous post, however, as that was about the Cloak, not the armour itself, I think creating anew post to showcase the problems of the armour is Justified.

I am gonna go in depth about most of the problems the costume has now. And before you ask: Yes, I am going to keep going on about this as it's just pathetic.

(My Graphic Settings are on Max)

This information is also gonna back up my previous point of it actually being made back in 2014 at launch.

OK, so first up is the just plain Awful Texture Quality.



Look at how clearly you can see the pixelation and how most of it just blurs together in an unappealing smudge. With the fabric being Low Res and the Metal also being Low Res.



THOSE STRAPS. They are just a flat texture on the chest panel, why are they not extended like the Straps on the Elven Hero Costume?

Why could we not have the Metal Textured as well as this:



And the Fabric textured as well as this:



No, instead we get lazy, low quality fabric textures like this:




As you can see from the images, the texturing on the Breton Hero Costume is just plain worse! Making me think that it was definitely made back before they improved their quality, so probably made back in 2014 and launch.

The next thing we have is the complete lack of layering and how flat things look without any weight to them.



Look how the Undersection of the Shoulder pad, is simply just an extended bit of the Regular Shoulder Pad. Zero layering. This seems really ridiculous when on other Costumes they have created multiple layering on Shoulders.

Such as the layering on these:







Notice how all of the three Shoulders I listed have a much more defined shape as well as having multiple layers to them with each layer having a thickness to it to show it as a proper piece of armour, rather than just a flat mesh with a texture on it which the Breton Hero Shoulder looks like it is.

Furthermore, on the Shoulder you can see these rings, well they're meant to be rings from the Cinematic Trailer armour anyway.:



These looks so terrible and aren't actually rings at all. They are just flat texture extensions with, again, an awful, blurred and smudged texture going across them.

Why could the rings not have the same Texture Quality and definition of the Robe Links on the 'Brilliance Robe':



And, the final issue is the terrible Clipping and positioning issues. The Cowl is terrible, just terrible. The front sticks out strangely and fails to look how it's meant to. It should be resting on the armour, but instead it sticks out looking very stupid:



And on the back of the Cowl it has clipping issues with the Shoulder Guards as it seems the creators of the Costume couldn't decide which should go over the top of the other, so instead they awkwardly clip with each other:



More layering issues on the back of the Shoulder Guards also, with the Undersection of the Shoulders, that should be underneath the Regular Shoulder Guards is just on the same, flat, bad Texture Mesh as them.

Well, I think I have got most of the stuff i hate about the costume out the way (Basically all of it) And 100% conclude this was made long LONG ago, and was never updated to meet the standards of the current armour and Costumes in the game. Because ZOS was lazy and couldn't be bothered.

Here is some more detail about me thinking it was made a long time ago back in 2014: (Optional)

When I go over it and look at it then compare it to other armours and costumes around that have been released recently, I'd say it's been created for over a year. It still has that drab, grittiness to it that a lot of the Original Launch Motifs had. I might go so far to say that it was made in 2014 or soon after launch.

Comparing the Woven Squares on the arms to other Woven Squares on things such as the Updated Orc Light Robe, they look less detailed. As well as the Shoulder Pads being very Flat and Thin, rather than having any Weight to them, or at least have some form of thickness. Similar to other Original Motif Armours at Release. ZERO Layering on the Shoulders where there should be multiple layers of metal overlapping each other. It seems strange when on the Nord Hero and Elf Hero, there is a decent amount of layering and thickness to everything, with stuff going over the top of each other and fitting together quite well.

The colours too, especially on the Chest plate where everything seems so gritty and melded together and it's all dull and gritty. This was definitely made before they changed their aesthetic, and fits a lot better with the Old Original Launch Style's and Texture Quality than it does with the new Styles and Texture Quality.

Yeah, so after analyzing it I feel it was probably originally made back in 2014 just never released, and instead of working to make a new version now, they decided to use that version. despite it being far worse than the current Costumes and Amour Styles that have been released over this past year.

yodased

Art director exposed.

Aeladiir

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Worth a try... Hopefully they read your post.

PurifedBladez

Damm zos, don't get put on blast.. lol

In all seriousness though this is a good post. I was unimpressed when I looked closely as well.

Let us not forget this costume cost 2000 crowns.. LOL

They must of thought the hype alone was enough for us.

Tiitus

this is enough to void the $20 price tag.

Snowstrider

Yep this and many other armors and clothing just looks so dull and like its just painted on. The art design is so lazy,some later newer dlc armors actually look decent but The majority of the games armors look really bad

James-Wayne

I agree with your post the costume does look terrible even on my 4k res, even the Nord Hero costume looked better then this... seeing it took forever for this to be released I was thinking it was the most detailed costume yet but alas I was very sadly mistaken.

Preyfar

Snowstrider wrote: »

Yep this and many other armors and clothing just looks so dull and like its just painted on. The art design is so lazy,some later newer dlc armors actually look decent but The majority of the games armors look really bad

Compare Reach (Barbaric) -vs- Winter Reach if you want to see an example of good and bad. Both are very similar motifs given they're based on the same culture (Reachmen). Winter Reach has a lot of detail to it, stands out and has a nice heft t it. While I'm not the biggest fan of the motif there's definitely a lot of detail there.

Reach/Barbaric is lacking depth and layers, and is missing a lot of the mass that would make the armor stand out. It's definitely one of the sets that has far more of a "painted on" feel to it.

It's probably one of the more apples to apples comparisons you can use.

maboleth

May I also add that all my characters, which are females, look at least 10kg fatter from behind? They look like a barrel, without even a hint of their waist.
I liked how you made Elven hero costume, and was looking forward to this one, but not like this. I want the official one, not an amateur, modder-version. :-/ Sigh.

Cazzy

There's no option to give you all 3 Insightful, Awesome and Agree points, which do you want more?

I never even considered this could have been made, or started, in 2014. Given the clear quality differences between the costume and more recent designs I can understand why that could be the case!

I think the insult to injury really does come down to how expensive the Hero Costumes were in comparison to other, more flattering outfits.

PurifedBladez

Take this costume of the crown store.. or drop it to 500 crowns.

Zos should really be embarrassed by the quality of work they've been putting out. If this wasnt an Elder Scrolls game it might be dead. Games have died for less just be happy you got that name anchoring *** for you.

Sheezabeast

I am soooo on the fence about this. Im trying to picture it dyed and helm hidden but the flat textures will still be there just a different color.

I'll think about it for a bit longer, I've seen it on only my previews and not on another curvy female char

PurifedBladez

Sheezabeast wrote: »

I am soooo on the fence about this. Im trying to picture it dyed and helm hidden but the flat textures will still be there just a different color.

I'll think about it for a bit longer, I've seen it on only my previews and not on another curvy female char

Noooo don't do it lol. Don't support this quality of work.

Mojmir

the preview should show your char walking in place,that way you get a better feel for future purchases.or a 24hr refund option.

Rohamad_Ali

If only there was this much outrage at lag . But ya that costume cracks me up every time I see someone's wearing it .

Oakmontowls_ESO

I was excited for this to be released and thought it looked good in the pictures and then saw it in game... At least it's only 2k crowns right?

Mashille

@Roehamad_Ali

Oh, I think there used to be. But people just gave up after a while because nothing was being done.

Sheezabeast

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

I am soooo on the fence about this. Im trying to picture it dyed and helm hidden but the flat textures will still be there just a different color.

I'll think about it for a bit longer, I've seen it on only my previews and not on another curvy female char

Noooo don't do it lol. Don't support this quality of work.

I only have 3k crowns so i'm gonna save em for some better items. Can anyone screenshot it with a female with an ample chest and hips with the helm hidden?

Rohamad_Ali

Mashille wrote: »

@Roehamad_Ali

Oh, I think there used to be. But people just gave up after a while because nothing was being done.

You might have the same response with the costume .

PurifedBladez

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Mashille wrote: »

@Roehamad_Ali

Oh, I think there used to be. But people just gave up after a while because nothing was being done.

You might have the same response with the costume .

Most likely.

xXMichonneXx

Great post. I saw this in the crown store this morning, and thought yay let me try this on for size. I did so and when I was done puking I said aww heck no. This is one bad costume. The Elven hero is outstanding while this one is rushed and poorly designed. ZOS please oh please redo this. It could be sooooo GOOD.

JD2013

People's reaction to the new Breton Armour and Doom Wolf mount ...

Seriously, don't buy it. Vote with your wallet. It's really not great quality. And that's being kind.

Unsent.Soul

This is depressing... Just like the new wolf... laziness at its finest.

Unsent.Soul

This is depressing... Just like the new wolf... laziness at its finest.

Ep1kMalware

I agree, loojs sooo bad.

just waiting for funds to be delivered to zos so I can get this mounttttuntttt

Korah_Eaglecry

My opinion is that there are two types of artists working for ZOS. I dont know if its just two artists or four or five. But one artist/group puts out really good armors like the Alliance Armors and the Mercenary. And the other artist/group puts out this sup par armor. The armor is always either really good or really lazy. Which makes me think its at the very least two different artists with different approaches to designing the armors. The first one knows how to, or cares about making the armor pop and look as if its something being worn. The other either doesnt know how to do what the first does, doesnt care/feels they dont have the time to put that kind of effort into it.

If you go back through all of the armors you can definitely tell that there has been more than one hand in it. And one/group puts far less effort into it than the other.

Mashille

Every time I look at my collections from this day fourth I am going to feel a bit disgusted with myself for buying it

Waseem

absolutely nothing justifies the price tag. next time check anything you want to buy from crown store either on PTS or the unlucky guy who just bought it so he can show you. saves regret

GreenSoup2HoT

FIX BRETON HERO COSTUME!!

Preyfar

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

My opinion is that there are two types of artists working for ZOS.

I don't know about two types of artists, but there are definitely different quality. Look at the Outlaw armor. While I love the armor, it dyes and looks almost completely different than any other armor in game. While most armor has a realistic vibe to it the Outlaw armor is almost on a cartoonish angle (especially with dyes).

Again, it's great looking armor, but something about it is different than all the other sets.

BenLocoDete

JD2013 wrote: »

People's reaction to the new Breton Armour and Doom Wolf mount ...

Seriously, don't buy it. Vote with your wallet. It's really not great quality. And that's being kind.

Plain bad, just like every other hero costume available.

It is just as impressive how people still buy these after so many threads complaining about the overall quality of costumes and their price.