Patch notes are up. How long before we are playing the game

Sophieous

dimensional wrote: »

FluffyMeowington wrote: »

BFT88 wrote: »

I'm just astounded

BFT88 wrote: »

they've been happening like this for years

BFT88 wrote: »

child

At least you're self-aware.

These threads always have the "high-and-mighty", "why don't you go outside" posters who talk down to others, imposing their ignorance upon them. You are worse than the people complaining about downtime, clowns.

No the complainers, and you, are far far worse, clown.

wtf are u doing here then? since you have so many other things to do?

Scorpion1959

nimander99 wrote: »

11 pages and counting... Don't any of you have to work?

Disclaimer: I'm not talking to you EU folks, we all know you guys work a couple days year.

Yeah, and they STILL won't give us a day off!

Ourorboros

AzuraKin wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

BFT88 wrote: »

These guys still don't get it XD

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Lock this useless thread please.

Some people are easy marks. They'll let anyone walk all over them. Just from a PR stand point, being nice and sharing information would go so much further to calm the forum. A lot more than a "Thanks for your patience".

your missing a huge point. we not mad about it being 1 week, it has been time after time. we are getting tired of every week not being able to play much on mondays because the servers are down 7+ hours.

Uh......if you read my posts just in this thread you'll see I feel the same about down time as you seem to be. Or maybe you meant to quote a different post? Otherwise...WTF?

Giatuareg

Hello everybody, Players and Devs!
Here just 2 cents of a Player since day one on PC EU server (CET timezone), who never posted anything on forum before (personally hate nerd rages or child flames), but:

- EU/US maintenance together is ridicolous. I feel very bad for the sysadmins (respect bros).
- You named one of your (two) Megaserver as UE Megaserver, what is the point of that name? Do you know 3/4 of the weekly rest days in EU (but i swear it was the same in Dubai and Hong Kong when i was working there) is .. Monday? Assuming 50% of playerbase logs into the EU one, how could you provide such service? Not complaining about the dowtime, but this affects the auction bid system as well. I can't believe is budget related, sorry.

- Is it normal that a 2 years subscriber has to DIG into a player's Thread to find a vague ( vague like the RNG) information about the problems occurred while maintain?

- Is it normal that an online entertainment company Moderator advices about the problems related to the ongoin maint. in a 4th page player's thread, instead of sticking a post into the correct Maintenance forum or the frontend webpage?

- Is a good manner to provide 3 lines of random text in that 4th page, with vague ETAs only in BST? 50% of playerbase are in EU one, you force every time 50% of customers to know every US timezone . thanks for that tho.

Don't wanna mention all those recursive problems that has never really fixed since the launch, like:
Animation canceling - Cyrodil ping double compared to other zones making Azura the only viable for many not US

Im a sysadming for some companies delivering adult content worldwide, been there for 9 years after 5 as DBA for finance companies.
I think i've messed all my life when compare my 16 hrs+ per day once problems occur to this kind of treating customers.
I bet they have not LUA integrity problems, is impossible. Is base code/database related 98,75%

But please feed us with more trashtalk lan parties, crown lottery and greedy visuals costumes
Yours sincerely,


Edit: forgot this
@ZOS_GinaBruno

Spezies

And yeah we are *** up european after a long day. Its late and we want to play.

GorraShatan

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey y'all. Right now we're looking at around 1pm EDT to complete maintenance, though please understand that's just a rough estimate. We'll let you know if that changes as soon as we have some more information.

For the love of all that his holy, could you guys STOP scheduling these at the same time as guild vendor auctions finish? You're really being unfair to trade guild GLs. Please show some respect for people who put a lot of volunteer time and effort into building the community here.

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO

rejoice, EU server is back up

Lyrebon

dimensional wrote: »

FluffyMeowington wrote: »

BFT88 wrote: »

I'm just astounded

BFT88 wrote: »

they've been happening like this for years

BFT88 wrote: »

child

At least you're self-aware.

These threads always have the "high-and-mighty", "why don't you go outside" posters who talk down to others, imposing their ignorance upon them. You are worse than the people complaining about downtime, clowns.

No the complainers, and you, are far far worse, clown.

So what's that make you complaining about others complaining? If you think people should stop complaining on a forum why are you complaining about them complaining on a forum? Makes no sense.

TheHsN

PSL dont open servers for forever...

Finally i feel FREEEEEEE :):)

Shader_Shibes

AyeshaBelladonna

I'm hoping this will solve our constant, if alternating in severity based on what i can only surmise is the phases of the moon, Cyrodiil crash issue in PvP. it seems to have been particularly bad after last update and had nothing to do with pop-locks or zerg battles. Also, it'd be nice to _see_ a group i form WITHIN 15mins of having invited them to group. lol All that aside.... the servers went down 3am my time and now its 1:35pm my time.....almost 12 hours maintenance for a relatively minor patch. That must be one heck of a snag they ran into during maintenance. Maybe an intern spilled coffee on the servers. XD

MyNameIsElias

I just got in, EU

Joysheeped

I just hope that my trading guilds can get the usual spots this week >_<

Immortal_Dark410

Joysheeped wrote: »

I just hope that my trading guilds can get the usual spots this week >_<

Ditto, I hope every guild could get a spot, its hard for people who try 2 bid for traders & have Real life commitments to do this seeing as maintenance is so early in the morning for people in the Est time zone & they have to be prepared when it extends way past the @ZOS bid reset times.

THWIP71

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just got an update: We're still working on the outstanding issue that has resulted in an extended maintenance window for the EU and NA PC/Mac servers. At this time, the maintenance window has been extended to 4PM EDT. If that gets pushed out further, we'll let you know.

And you post this here, where only a few random people might see it, yet the maintenance/update page hasn't been updated, and there's not a forum thread for this maintenance period either. Great job as always. /s

eric_1961_ukb16_ESO

nimander99 wrote: »

11 pages and counting... Don't any of you have to work?

Disclaimer: I'm not talking to you EU folks, we all know you guys work a couple days year.

We wouldn't need to do that if we didn't have to stop you Americans from F*****g the world up from time to time

BoloBoffin

The Twitter account @TESOnline says the server is back up, but it's not. Did that go out by mistake?

ETA: EU is back up, not NA. I see that now.

magnusthorek

I would post very nasty about EU being up before NA, but let it go, it doesn't worth...

Immortal_Dark410

eric_1961_ukb16_ESO wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

11 pages and counting... Don't any of you have to work?

Disclaimer: I'm not talking to you EU folks, we all know you guys work a couple days year.

We wouldn't need to do that if we didn't have to stop you Americans from F*****g the world up from time to time

lol what the

Lady_Ems

This is what the 3rd week in a row now it's been extended to 4pm est. and of course always on trader flip day. Oh how I wish I could get some sleep but that is the life of of a GM and this game since they jsut refuse to answer us about it.










https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/283769/poorly-thought-out-maintenance-times-and-their-conflict-with-economy-mechanics/p10[]

Amset Ra

Server is online again ^^

THWIP71

Dread_Viking wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just got an update: We're still working on the outstanding issue that has resulted in an extended maintenance window for the EU and NA PC/Mac servers. At this time, the maintenance window has been extended to 4PM EDT. If that gets pushed out further, we'll let you know.

what a joke like rly Eu prime time gone us prime time is fine as always

Prime time for gaming is entirely subjective ; there's no schedule, like there is for prime time TV.

Tia413

I started playing this game the 1st of August because I was told that its successors were great games.

I subbed shortly after starting because I actually liked the game. Man did I make a mistake.

This game would be great if another company with a better track record took it over.

I have never experienced such incompetence from a game crew to this magnitude.

I left SWTOR because of the direction it has taken of lately, but man You people make EAWare look good.
At least they don't have the down times like this game has. And they compensate their paying customers if there is one.

And I can say the same for Blizzard. I am still a sub of theirs on WoW and I also play their Starcraft2.
They have downtime most weeks, yes. But quite a few of them are just server restarts which only last 5 mins.

When my sub runs out in 8 days for this game I will not be re-subbing .

If another Game Company takes over the game, I may consider returning, but ofc only after I observe it for some time.

But with the # of people I have done seen saying they are Leaving the Game, along with the # of people whom have unsubbed since my arrival on this game, I think I can safely say, this game isn't gonna be around for an extended amount of time.
That is really sad too, this game was actually Very Enjoyable.

But I will not and I do not have to pay for 30 days of game play when I am only getting 26 days.

(2 days each week of almost 12 hours of downtime per day) . (1/2 day x 2 per week= 1 whole day of paying for nothing) (1 day lost each week x 4 weeks in a month = 4 days of paying for nothing) 30 - 4 = 26 days of actual game play I am paying for.
$14.99 / 30 = 0.4996666666666667 per day x 4= 1.998666666666667 per month I lose with these Extended Downtimes. And if I stayed for a whole year that would be $23.984 of Income that I might as well have just tossed out a window for some one else to enjoy.

Some of you may Scoff at the the loss of $25 a year, but when you are Disabled and only live off of $700 a month, well that $25 a year is quite precious to you.

I have definately learned my lesson well from this game/company.

Immortal_Dark410

TheHsN wrote: »

PSL dont open servers for forever...

Finally i feel FREEEEEEE :):)

lol ahh this is priceless

Lady_Ems wrote: »

This is what the 3rd week in a row now it's been extended to 4pm est. and of course always on trader flip day. Oh how I wish I could get some sleep but that is the life of of a GM and this game since they jsut refuse to answer us about it.










https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/283769/poorly-thought-out-maintenance-times-and-their-conflict-with-economy-mechanics/p10[]

yes check this post out we want @ZOS to at least respond to this issue about the maintenance & trader reset so close to each other, which causes major issues.

Immortal_Dark410

Tia413 wrote: »

I started playing this game the 1st of August because I was told that its successors were great games.

I subbed shortly after starting because I actually liked the game. Man did I make a mistake.

This game would be great if another company with a better track record took it over.

I have never experienced such incompetence from a game crew to this magnitude.

I left SWTOR because of the direction it has taken of lately, but man You people make EAWare look good.
At least they don't have the down times like this game has. And they compensate their paying customers if there is one.

And I can say the same for Blizzard. I am still a sub of theirs on WoW and I also play their Starcraft2.
They have downtime most weeks, yes. But quite a few of them are just server restarts which only last 5 mins.

When my sub runs out in 8 days for this game I will not be re-subbing .

If another Game Company takes over the game, I may consider returning, but ofc only after I observe it for some time.

But with the # of people I have done seen saying they are Leaving the Game, along with the # of people whom have unsubbed since my arrival on this game, I think I can safely say, this game isn't gonna be around for an extended amount of time.
That is really sad too, this game was actually Very Enjoyable.

But I will not and I do not have to pay for 30 days of game play when I am only getting 26 days.

(2 days each week of almost 12 hours of downtime per day) . (1/2 day x 2 per week= 1 whole day of paying for nothing) (1 day lost each week x 4 weeks in a month = 4 days of paying for nothing) 30 - 4 = 26 days of actual game play I am paying for.
$14.99 / 30 = 0.4996666666666667 per day x 4= 1.998666666666667 per month I lose with these Extended Downtimes. And if I stayed for a whole year that would be $23.984 of Income that I might as well have just tossed out a window for some one else to enjoy.

Some of you may Scoff at the the loss of $25 a year, but when you are Disabled and only live off of $700 a month, well that $25 a year is quite precious to you.

I have definately learned my lesson well from this game/company.

well its not right when you put it that way & I Am sorry you had to experience all this loss. but then again @ZOS is no where near the other successful MMO's yet, its only been out for what 2 years now? , there like a Child being compared to an Adult.
Maybe they start getting there maintenance stuff in order but I don't see it happening anytime soon.They have A lot of issues to address not only in game but outside it too. So its probably gonna take them a long while to correct everything.

Holycannoli

THWIP71 wrote: »

Prime time for gaming is entirely subjective ; there's no schedule, like there is for prime time TV.

Prime time for an NA server is NA prime time, no matter if people from other timezones choose to play it. Same with an EU server having an EU prime time.

That's how it is.

Vrathak

Just wanted to say, the following is not a raging post but just an advice,

For you to ALWAYS have technical issues whenever you do a maintenance, and having so many bugs that were supposed to be fixed by said patch even after being applied, I HIGHLY recommend you start looking into some changes in your Q&A and server administration team. So many issues can only be caused by a lack of standard and best practices that should be in place in a company your size.

So yeah.... might want to open some spots in your organization and replace the bad apples, you need to bring up your game a little bit here, and it's been so ever since you launched the game more than 2 years ago, these days it seems the game has grown too much for your team to handle properly and have proper server updates during the patches.

The game has grown, the company has to grow too.

Amsel_McKay

Vrathak wrote: »

Just wanted to say, the following is not a raging post but just an advice,

For you to ALWAYS have technical issues whenever you do a maintenance, and having so many bugs that were supposed to be fixed by said patch even after being applied, I HIGHLY recommend you start looking into some changes in your Q&A and server administration team. So many issues can only be caused by a lack of standard and best practices that should be in place in a company your size.

So yeah.... might want to open some spots in your organization and replace the bad apples, you need to bring up your game a little bit here, and it's been so ever since you launched the game more than 2 years ago, these days it seems the game has grown too much for your team to handle properly and have proper server updates during the patches.

The game has grown, the company has to grow too.

As the company has grown they have let off more people...

Immortal_Dark410

Vrathak wrote: »

Just wanted to say, the following is not a raging post but just an advice,

For you to ALWAYS have technical issues whenever you do a maintenance, and having so many bugs that were supposed to be fixed by said patch even after being applied, I HIGHLY recommend you start looking into some changes in your Q&A and server administration team. So many issues can only be caused by a lack of standard and best practices that should be in place in a company your size.

So yeah.... might want to open some spots in your organization and replace the bad apples, you need to bring up your game a little bit here, and it's been so ever since you launched the game more than 2 years ago, these days it seems the game has grown too much for your team to handle properly and have proper server updates during the patches.

The game has grown, the company has to grow too.

bingo hit the nail on the coffin, couldn't have said it better myself, they need more staff to deal with the arising issues most likely, which they probably haven't addressed

babedenny

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Just a quick note to let you all know that we have encountered a technical issue during today's maintenance for the NA and EU PC/Mac megaservers. As a result, the maintenance window has been extended. Apologies for the extended downtime. We'll keep you updated; thank you for your patience.

And... boom goes the dynamite!