Icereach PC NA (Mulaamnir/Kyne/BWB NA PC - Final)

DeadlyRecluse

Itsnotarealwar has the greatest possible username for this thread.

It preemptively defeats like, everybody. 10/10.

PemPem

@DeadlyRecluse I'll race you to ten forum stars

Gederic

Pem is fake news

Datthaw

I don't get why people hate on soul strike, it's actually the one ult that a total new player probably has. I did on my 1st toon, a magplar. I finished the pve story and was like "what else can I do, im gonna check out pvp"

Stridig

The difference is new players get it as a result of doing the main quest and have no idea that it's good in PvP. Experienced people get it on purpose just to destroy new people with. It's bad sportsmanship. If you are aware of what tools are needed to be competitive in PvP then it's time to move on. I wish I did it sooner. My opinion of course.

Gederic

As I see it the only reason for an experienced player to stick around Kyne consistently is for the recruitment and training of new players for a veteran PvP guild. It’s fun to mess around on the forums but you’re joking yourself if you’re a 3 year veteran of the game and think you still belong in Kyne..

DeadlyRecluse

Gederic wrote: »

As I see it the only reason for an experienced player to stick around Kyne consistently is for the recruitment and training of new players for a veteran PvP guild. It’s fun to mess around on the forums but you’re joking yourself if you’re a 3 year veteran of the game and think you still belong in Kyne..

IMO, a distinct shift occured after the Yellow Summer. BWB went from having 2-3 guild groups of somewhat experienced players (plus usually a pug wrangle group on the move) for each faction active every night to maaaybe 1 guild on each faction that knew what they were doing on any given moment. I personally couldn't justify spending any more time in there, despite the mechanical side of nonvet PvP being very good.

There just isn't any meat on those bones.

Mjollo

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Gederic wrote: »

As I see it the only reason for an experienced player to stick around Kyne consistently is for the recruitment and training of new players for a veteran PvP guild. It’s fun to mess around on the forums but you’re joking yourself if you’re a 3 year veteran of the game and think you still belong in Kyne..

IMO, a distinct shift occured after the Yellow Summer. BWB went from having 2-3 guild groups of somewhat experienced players (plus usually a pug wrangle group on the move) for each faction active every night to maaaybe 1 guild on each faction that knew what they were doing on any given moment. I personally couldn't justify spending any more time in there, despite the mechanical side of nonvet PvP being very good.

There just isn't any meat on those bones.

I was only there for YOU, deadly. Then you left and look what happened. Are you proud?!

DeadlyRecluse

Mjollo wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Gederic wrote: »

As I see it the only reason for an experienced player to stick around Kyne consistently is for the recruitment and training of new players for a veteran PvP guild. It’s fun to mess around on the forums but you’re joking yourself if you’re a 3 year veteran of the game and think you still belong in Kyne..

IMO, a distinct shift occured after the Yellow Summer. BWB went from having 2-3 guild groups of somewhat experienced players (plus usually a pug wrangle group on the move) for each faction active every night to maaaybe 1 guild on each faction that knew what they were doing on any given moment. I personally couldn't justify spending any more time in there, despite the mechanical side of nonvet PvP being very good.

There just isn't any meat on those bones.

I was only there for YOU, deadly. Then you left and look what happened. Are you proud?!

Absolutely.

Mjollo

Gederic wrote: »

As I see it the only reason for an experienced player to stick around Kyne consistently is for the recruitment and training of new players for a veteran PvP guild. It’s fun to mess around on the forums but you’re joking yourself if you’re a 3 year veteran of the game and think you still belong in Kyne..

Thats meeee

Hexquisite

Logged into Kyne last night for the first time in a few months, to help a friend. Boy it was dead besides the same group of 5 geared EP stalking us around the map. And thats fine, I came in low level with out leveled gear on an alt I don't play, I expect to get killed..but what I don't expect is a tell to me from a certain daddy( who by the way was there when I leveled 6 months ago), calling us silly zergers when we weren't PVEdooring, and it was constantly 2 of us against their 5. I had no guild tag on, so essentially they just thinking they are praying on new players, and then sending new players hate tells. Great way to build a community.

I change my mind, I think @A_G_G_R_O is right.

Stridig

Hexquisite wrote: »

Logged into Kyne last night for the first time in a few months, to help a friend. Boy it was dead besides the same group of 5 geared EP stalking us around the map. And thats fine, I came in low level with out leveled gear on an alt I don't play, I expect to get killed..but what I don't expect is a tell to me from a certain daddy( who by the way was there when I leveled 6 months ago), calling us silly zergers when we weren't PVEdooring, and it was constantly 2 of us against their 5. I had no guild tag on, so essentially they just thinking they are praying on new players, and then sending new players hate tells. Great way to build a community.

I change my mind, I think @A_G_G_R_O is right.

I watched that same person preying on new people a year ago. I stepped in to help out a new person during one occasion and boy was daddy mad at me! Some people just don't like to work for it I guess.

MajBludd

The biggest problem in kyne are not the solo players. It's the organized guilds using discord that farm new players for ap.

The ones that don't play to the objectives. The ones that run in groups of 5-10, using discord, just farming new players in resource towers for ap. The ones that take out the roofs in keeps to farm ppl.

Adenoma

It is absolutely ridiculous for experienced players to be running in 5-10 man groups in Kyne. You just aren't going to find fair competition besides primetime when they can maybe overwhelm you with numbers.

MrCal

Gederic wrote: »

As I see it the only reason for an experienced player to stick around Kyne consistently is for the recruitment and training of new players for a veteran PvP guild. It’s fun to mess around on the forums but you’re joking yourself if you’re a 3 year veteran of the game and think you still belong in Kyne..

When you have bad net and a bad computer, kyne is the easier route. No destro/monster/caltrap spams makes it easier to pvp without your computer making beeping sounds

kit_sune

I'm throughly enjoying stamblade pvp in kyne. But when this girl vets I'll be moving on to the lagfest that is vivec. I'll be back when I start hating the lag in vet

kit_sune

Also if i can not have 3 wardens chasing me with sleet storm that'd be great! Pls no bulli

Raknosh

For celebration to our 2 years of PUGz, we decided to go back to where we started it all. It was great to see all those familiar faces still around. We did it old school type, no voice chat, even took a few pugs from zone.

Like Deadly said, there are some nice things about this campaign. No tight destro/proxy ball groups, no stupid OP builds enabled by CP, it's just more casual all around and is probly the best place to thrive with a non voice group.

The things that bugged me tho, is the OPness of the sieges. As much as vet CP, sieges are almost useless, in here, they hit waaay to hard, especially if you don't have a purge. Also, playing lvl 10 was a huge pain in the ass loll.

gabriebe

When you wonder where that AD zerg went, and then you realize this:

https://imgur.com/a/u56vV

kit_sune

gabriebe wrote: »

When you wonder where that AD zerg went, and then you realize this:

https://imgur.com/a/u56vV

Haha small scale feels

kit_sune

Raknosh wrote: »

For celebration to our 2 years of PUGz, we decided to go back to where we started it all. It was great to see all those familiar faces still around. We did it old school type, no voice chat, even took a few pugs from zone.

Like Deadly said, there are some nice things about this campaign. No tight destro/proxy ball groups, no stupid OP builds enabled by CP, it's just more casual all around and is probly the best place to thrive with a non voice group.

The things that bugged me tho, is the OPness of the sieges. As much as vet CP, sieges are almost useless, in here, they hit waaay to hard, especially if you don't have a purge. Also, playing lvl 10 was a huge pain in the ass loll.

Has it really been two years, my lord

gabriebe

lol FYI, this is IC. 12-15 people farming bosses is really ineffective.

Raknosh

gabriebe wrote: »

lol FYI, this is IC. 12-15 people farming bosses is really ineffective.

Yea man, Shor is the same thing. The waste of TV is killing me

Valen_Byte

Ive been sayin the same *** you guys are talkin about for 2 years lol You all just roll your eyes at valen, now look at ya. Singin the same toons I was. You guys made the server like this. lol

DCeiver0

Valen_Byte

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

At this point, the long standing players of Kyne, are ruining pvp in this server and in eso as a whole. Kyne has a huge impact on all of pvp. It is where most come to learn.

I think its time to lock it down. If you have one CP, you should not be able go in kyne, account wide. Its the only way to save it at this point. I have recently learned that there are even players grinding Asylum weapons for lowbie pvp. This needs your attention Zos. You need to do something about lowbie pvp before the pvp'ers are a thing of the past. Look at your server populations. They are poor. It starts here, in lowbie pvp. Lock it down. DO something.

I realize that pvp makes Zos 0 dollars but ffs, pvp is all but dead in this game and I believe a big part of that is because of the state of Kyne. Take a look at it.


Edit to add: Also, take note of the faction swapping in kyne. Same players flop back and forth constantly to swap emp, swap keeps, scrolls you name it. The integrity of Kyne is completely gone.

MajBludd

I agree to some extent but what about the guy who makes a class they never played and has 450 cp. Are they banned from kyne? What about they guy who pve'd to cp cap then wants to make a pvp toon. Should they have to learn in vet?

MajBludd

I made a suggestion to fix the problem before on this same topic.
1.Scale gear to green of gold, no matter what you are using.
2.As soon as you hit lvl 50, you get booted. Not after you log.
3.Lock FG and MG skill lines
4.block asylum weapons and dugeon sets
How feasible this is to do, idk. But it will solve a lot in kyne imo.

Stridig

Honestly most of the players in Kyne (assuming most of the regulars are still there) are better than the majority of Vet players. My K/D ratio has doubled since moving to vet.

Valen_Byte

MajBludd wrote: »

I agree to some extent but what about the guy who makes a class they never played and has 450 cp. Are they banned from kyne? What about they guy who pve'd to cp cap then wants to make a pvp toon. Should they have to learn in vet?

Im willing to never see the inside of kyne again in hopes that pvp will come back to lyfe. I care more about the game as a whole than I do about me getting in to play in Kyne.

Edit: I do like your suggestions. Really all Im saying is that its so bad in ther, I would be willing to give it up. I dont know the answer. But ther has to be one.