unicorn mount? or is not lore friendly?

starkerealm

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

Oliumzen wrote: »

I hate the "lore" argument. its stupid. Maybe the writers of the game are adding new Lore, or its undiscovered history up to this point. If it makes the game more fun then do it regardless of lore. Not hard to add something and call it "new" lore

Totes, I am pretty sure Vampire Lords never existed before Skyrim Dawnguard DLC. They just thought it would be cool and made it fit into the game, how it should be done but only with the cool stuff.

Well, vampire stages weren't added until Oblivion. I don't think the full Bloodlines concept existed before Oblivion either. There were different clans before that, but vampires were, basically, vampires.

That said, and wandering off topic for a moment, I still think the requests for a vampire lord transform are way off base. For a number of lore and gameplay related reasons.

Rosveen

starkerealm wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Oliumzen wrote: »

I hate the "lore" argument. its stupid. Maybe the writers of the game are adding new Lore, or its undiscovered history up to this point. If it makes the game more fun then do it regardless of lore. Not hard to add something and call it "new" lore

Adding brand new lore is fine. Adding lore that conflicts with existing lore is trickier. That's where most complaints come from.

Especially when those complaints are contradicted by lore. You know, like the people in this thread arguing against Unicorns from a lore perspective, when they do, in fact, exist in TES.

Almost everyone said they exist and are therefore lore-friendly. But just to argue a point, even if something exists, that doesn't automatically make it a suitable mount - otherwise nothing's stopping us from implementing dragon mounts.
I don't care either way, I don't like unicorns and horse models look horrendous in this game. These chicken legs.

notimetocare

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

UNICORNS. Gief me unicorn mount.

NU. No toy for u!

rudimentxb14_ESO

this thread is why they go extinct in 800 years.

It starts out innocent enough. Hunting down the Unicorns, training them to be mounts. over the years they revolt. Start to resist their riders. One day there is a war, all unicorns are killed.

In the midst of the battle a lone unicorn emerges and escapes with it's life.....until one day...an Adventurer, comes and kills it...and takes its horn to a daedric shrine for a shiny NEW CHEST PIECE.


the tale of the unicorn is a tragic one.

JKorr

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

Uhh. It is not lore unfriendly. A unicorn mount was in Oblivion.

um...no.

There was a unicorn you were supposed to hunt in Oblivion. While people did ride it, it wasn't a mount. Couldn't be stabled, wouldn't stay in place once you dismounted, and would cheerfully and happily attack its rider if they drew a weapon. Along with any other lifeform that had a drawn weapon in the area.

Tipsy

Abeille wrote: »

Here, a video to celebrate the fact that the OP kept the concern about lore in mind. Thanks OP, you are awesome, I wish all the OPs were like you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cta_tknLht8

lol,gets minotaur axe in the shoulder..but is too exited to care because that unicorn is finally tamed

I don't know though,aren't they supposed to be very rare?
the setting is no problem though.
pure innocent unicorns

SantieClaws

Khajiit has never felt the same about unicorns since some disturbing rumours she heard from the Northern Kingdoms regarding a stuffed unicorn, a witcher and a sorceress ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

WhiteCoatSyndrome

starkerealm wrote: »

Well, vampire stages weren't added until Oblivion. I don't think the full Bloodlines concept existed before Oblivion either. There were different clans before that, but vampires were, basically, vampires.

@starkerealm Not sure what you mean by bloodlines...there have been different vampire clans since at least Daggerfall (which had about 9) and there were at least three in Morrowind.

Moonscythe

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

Oliumzen wrote: »

I hate the "lore" argument. its stupid. Maybe the writers of the game are adding new Lore, or its undiscovered history up to this point. If it makes the game more fun then do it regardless of lore. Not hard to add something and call it "new" lore

Totes, I am pretty sure Vampire Lords never existed before Skyrim Dawnguard DLC. They just thought it would be cool and made it fit into the game, how it should be done but only with the cool stuff.

Vampires existed in Morrowind though werewolves didn't make an appearance until the Bloodmoon expansion. (If they were around earlier I don't know it since I date back only to Morrowind).

I've noticed something on these threads. I think the whole open your eyes into a game world affects people in real life. I've noticed amny who think the first time the see something is when it began its existence. For example, I'm older than dirt, I thought, but I have been assured that there was dirt even before I opened my eyes the first time. Who'da thunk it?

starkerealm

Moonscythe wrote: »

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

Oliumzen wrote: »

I hate the "lore" argument. its stupid. Maybe the writers of the game are adding new Lore, or its undiscovered history up to this point. If it makes the game more fun then do it regardless of lore. Not hard to add something and call it "new" lore

Totes, I am pretty sure Vampire Lords never existed before Skyrim Dawnguard DLC. They just thought it would be cool and made it fit into the game, how it should be done but only with the cool stuff.

Vampires existed in Morrowind though werewolves didn't make an appearance until the Bloodmoon expansion. (If they were around earlier I don't know it since I date back only to Morrowind).

I've noticed something on these threads. I think the whole open your eyes into a game world affects people in real life. I've noticed amny who think the first time the see something is when it began its existence. For example, I'm older than dirt, I thought, but I have been assured that there was dirt even before I opened my eyes the first time. Who'da thunk it?

It was possible to become a werewolf or vampire in Daggerfall. There were also Wereboars in the game; it was supposed to be possible to contract lycanthropy from them, and become one, but the game was bugged and (if I remember correctly) used the same lycanthropy debuff as the werewolves, so you'd end up becoming a werewolf if infected by them.

starkerealm

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Well, vampire stages weren't added until Oblivion. I don't think the full Bloodlines concept existed before Oblivion either. There were different clans before that, but vampires were, basically, vampires.

@starkerealm Not sure what you mean by bloodlines...there have been different vampire clans since at least Daggerfall (which had about 9) and there were at least three in Morrowind.

The clans in Daggerfall still operated under the same basic rules. I can't even remember if they had different statistical values. Morrowind's three clans had a slight difference in the skills they buffed, but they were still all, basically, the same kind of monster.

As I remember, Oblivion was when TES added the idea that different vampire bloodlines were entirely different kinds of creatures, with distinct power sets. It added the idea of vampires that could pass for human while well fed (and added the feeding stages to them), it introduced the Volkihar (from Dawnguard), but suggested they had ice based powers. It introduced several varieties of Bosmer vampire we've yet to see in the games.

There's a lot of diversity in The Elder Scrolls' Vampires, which is somewhat unusual in a fantasy setting, and it all started with Oblivion's decision to mix things up and make Cyrodiil's vampires different.

CherryCake

SantieClaws wrote: »

Khajiit has never felt the same about unicorns since some disturbing rumours she heard from the Northern Kingdoms regarding a stuffed unicorn, a witcher and a sorceress ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

OMG Santie knows about the witcher

SantieClaws

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

Khajiit has never felt the same about unicorns since some disturbing rumours she heard from the Northern Kingdoms regarding a stuffed unicorn, a witcher and a sorceress ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

OMG Santie knows about the witcher

Khajiit she spends time in the taverns. She hears stories from many travellers of many interesting places.

They said the drinking would rot the brain of this one but no - khajiit has found her time in The Rosy Lion to be most educashonal!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

DUTCH_REAPER

JKorr wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

Uhh. It is not lore unfriendly. A unicorn mount was in Oblivion.

um...no.

There was a unicorn you were supposed to hunt in Oblivion. While people did ride it, it wasn't a mount. Couldn't be stabled, wouldn't stay in place once you dismounted, and would cheerfully and happily attack its rider if they drew a weapon. Along with any other lifeform that had a drawn weapon in the area.

Umm yes. It was in fact an animal a rider could "mount" upon. If a rider chose not to that was their perogative. It is in the Elder Scrolls Lore because it is is the game oblivion. You can't stable a unicorn so what? It was always there. Last I checked I don't stable my mounts now. They are in a collections screen. Or will that mess up someone's RP? Lol. OP did not ask if a unicorn is friendly or not. He asked if a unicorn mount is lore friendly to ESO. The answer is a solid yes.

JKorr

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

Uhh. It is not lore unfriendly. A unicorn mount was in Oblivion.

um...no.

There was a unicorn you were supposed to hunt in Oblivion. While people did ride it, it wasn't a mount. Couldn't be stabled, wouldn't stay in place once you dismounted, and would cheerfully and happily attack its rider if they drew a weapon. Along with any other lifeform that had a drawn weapon in the area.

Umm yes. It was in fact an animal a rider could "mount" upon. If a rider chose not to that was their perogative. It is in the Elder Scrolls Lore because it is is the game oblivion. You can't stable a unicorn so what? It was always there. Last I checked I don't stable my mounts now. They are in a collections screen. Or will that mess up someone's RP? Lol. OP did not ask if a unicorn is friendly or not. He asked if a unicorn mount is lore friendly to ESO. The answer is a solid yes.

Mounts, only horses, in Oblivion did end up in stables, not your collection screen. Not in stable, not a mount. Random quest objective you're supposed to turn in for a piece of armor, possibly created by Hircine just for that purpose? Yes. Any in-game books discussing where the unicorns came from, live, migrate to, or whatever? If the lore is there for more than a one-off "Kill this and I'll give you armor made from my skin" from Hircine, I'd like to read it.

starkerealm

JKorr wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

Uhh. It is not lore unfriendly. A unicorn mount was in Oblivion.

um...no.

There was a unicorn you were supposed to hunt in Oblivion. While people did ride it, it wasn't a mount. Couldn't be stabled, wouldn't stay in place once you dismounted, and would cheerfully and happily attack its rider if they drew a weapon. Along with any other lifeform that had a drawn weapon in the area.

Umm yes. It was in fact an animal a rider could "mount" upon. If a rider chose not to that was their perogative. It is in the Elder Scrolls Lore because it is is the game oblivion. You can't stable a unicorn so what? It was always there. Last I checked I don't stable my mounts now. They are in a collections screen. Or will that mess up someone's RP? Lol. OP did not ask if a unicorn is friendly or not. He asked if a unicorn mount is lore friendly to ESO. The answer is a solid yes.

Mounts, only horses, in Oblivion did end up in stables, not your collection screen. Not in stable, not a mount. Random quest objective you're supposed to turn in for a piece of armor, possibly created by Hircine just for that purpose? Yes. Any in-game books discussing where the unicorns came from, live, migrate to, or whatever? If the lore is there for more than a one-off "Kill this and I'll give you armor made from my skin" from Hircine, I'd like to read it.

There's also the stray comment from a DB member in Skyrim. They exist in the setting, but do seem to be exceedingly rare, for whatever reason.

DUTCH_REAPER

JKorr wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

Uhh. It is not lore unfriendly. A unicorn mount was in Oblivion.

um...no.

There was a unicorn you were supposed to hunt in Oblivion. While people did ride it, it wasn't a mount. Couldn't be stabled, wouldn't stay in place once you dismounted, and would cheerfully and happily attack its rider if they drew a weapon. Along with any other lifeform that had a drawn weapon in the area.

Umm yes. It was in fact an animal a rider could "mount" upon. If a rider chose not to that was their perogative. It is in the Elder Scrolls Lore because it is is the game oblivion. You can't stable a unicorn so what? It was always there. Last I checked I don't stable my mounts now. They are in a collections screen. Or will that mess up someone's RP? Lol. OP did not ask if a unicorn is friendly or not. He asked if a unicorn mount is lore friendly to ESO. The answer is a solid yes.

Mounts, only horses, in Oblivion did end up in stables, not your collection screen. Not in stable, not a mount. Random quest objective you're supposed to turn in for a piece of armor, possibly created by Hircine just for that purpose? Yes. Any in-game books discussing where the unicorns came from, live, migrate to, or whatever? If the lore is there for more than a one-off "Kill this and I'll give you armor made from my skin" from Hircine, I'd like to read it.

You lost me at "read something". I'm not doing your Intel gathering for you. Fact is. In Oblivion I took a sweet cray cray unicorn and made it my byotch cuz I rode that little mean bas terd everywhere.
And I was talking about my collection screen in ESO
/micdrop

Milvan

As long as they make MLP themes, I don't mind.

starkerealm

Milvan wrote: »

As long as they make MLP themes, I don't mind.

If they made it so when you dismounted it would aggro on anything nearby, I would be very amused. It'd be disruptive as hell, but hilarious and lore friendly.

waterfairy

JKorr wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

Uhh. It is not lore unfriendly. A unicorn mount was in Oblivion.

um...no.

There was a unicorn you were supposed to hunt in Oblivion. While people did ride it, it wasn't a mount. Couldn't be stabled, wouldn't stay in place once you dismounted, and would cheerfully and happily attack its rider if they drew a weapon. Along with any other lifeform that had a drawn weapon in the area.

Umm yes. It was in fact an animal a rider could "mount" upon. If a rider chose not to that was their perogative. It is in the Elder Scrolls Lore because it is is the game oblivion. You can't stable a unicorn so what? It was always there. Last I checked I don't stable my mounts now. They are in a collections screen. Or will that mess up someone's RP? Lol. OP did not ask if a unicorn is friendly or not. He asked if a unicorn mount is lore friendly to ESO. The answer is a solid yes.

Mounts, only horses, in Oblivion did end up in stables, not your collection screen. Not in stable, not a mount. Random quest objective you're supposed to turn in for a piece of armor, possibly created by Hircine just for that purpose? Yes. Any in-game books discussing where the unicorns came from, live, migrate to, or whatever? If the lore is there for more than a one-off "Kill this and I'll give you armor made from my skin" from Hircine, I'd like to read it.

ha what are you ranting about? Mounting means riding, not owning...you could mount the unicorn, you just couldn't tame and own it.
The mounts is ESO are more like Arvak from Skyrim, you summon them then they magically disappear. I don't care for unicorns but they fit in just fine here, especially when you can summon a magical cat to ride that farts fire or a horse made from ice.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Sure someone already said it, but there is a quest in Oblivion to kill a wild unicorn to get its horn. Not very PC these days. But anyways, that's how you get the Saviour's Hide in Oblivion.

starkerealm

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Sure someone already said it, but there is a quest in Oblivion to kill a wild unicorn to get its horn. Not very PC these days. But anyways, that's how you get the Saviour's Hide in Oblivion.

Well, when you consider the other ways you've gotten the Savior's Hide over the years... Oblivion's pretty tame, really.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

@starkerealm Per the wiki, there appear to be at least a few differences between the two. (Link.) I will freely admit to never having played Daggerfall myself, so I can't confirm.

starkerealm

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

@starkerealm Per the wiki, there appear to be at least a few differences between the two. (Link.) I will freely admit to never having played Daggerfall myself, so I can't confirm.

Looks legitimate. I'll be honest, I was unaware of this.

Shogunami

I've stumbled upon a single unicorn in all of my years playing Elder Scrolls games, and it was awesome because it felt rare, and they should be very very very rare.

Unicorn mount is a terrible idea. If ZOS is reading this and starts thinking "Hmm, Unicorn mount? $$$?? PROFIT!" - JUST DON'T!!11, please

Gargath

Unicorns will never be in ESO because of the phallic connotation with their horns.

DUTCH_REAPER

hahaha We were talking about this in TS and a guy came into the convo halfway through and said "guys guys, if you rub a unicorns horn long enough you get magic mayonnaise" lol dying here

Oakmontowls_ESO

What if in order to keep the rarity (he he mlp pun) ZoS makes it 10k crowns.

Saturn

raviour wrote: »

a lot of ppl would like to ride a unicorn for lols zos, please cater for us, c'mon u made a scarecrow poly

Unicorns are lore friendly. You can ride one as a mount in Oblivion:


Just make sure you have your weapons sheathed around it, or your face will get kicked in.