I maybe showing my age.....

raidentenshu_ESO

But why do people use so many abbreviations in this game and in other games? Has the skill of spelling became too complicated for so many out there? I'm not saying this to be mean, but most of the time I don't even understand what players are requesting, especially when it comes down asking people for dungeons in the zone.

Trublz

FFS bcuz, imo, we have a lot to say and lil time to type it. It bcomes 2nd nature

Tipsy

agree

I'd prefer a roleplaying server where those abbreviations are not allowed or something
May they be stoned by Molag Ball's droppings

Elohmrow

h h a u dng tdy? lfg mv t hll n bnb fr u m8 r8 8/8 f8 c8 n8.

Trublz

I just put ffs Bcuz I wanted an extra abbreviation in there : p

Elvent

Usually when I'm questing/fighting out in the world I can't help it and I don't have time to backspace and correct my spelling so whatever I typed is going lol otherwise my spelling is just as good as it is on these forums.

Elohmrow

gr8 g8 m8 wud r8 8/8 m8 agn m8

raidentenshu_ESO

Sirvandal

I realy dislike Grammar Police, sod off! :O)

raidentenshu_ESO

Sirvandal wrote: »

I realy dislike Grammar Police, sod off! :O)

I'm not trying to be the grammar police, but how can you expect people to understand what you're asking?

anitajoneb17_ESO

short version :

LF1M tank 501+ vICP fast run

middle version :

Anyone feels like doing vICP now ? There's three of us already, we need a tank. We don't have a lot of time so please don't bring a lowbie character.

complete version

Hello world, I'm sitting here with two mates and we would like to run the veteran version of imperial city prison. We are 2 damage dealers and 1 healer, so what we need is a tank. We would prefer to have a strong tank. Also, we have only one hour available because of stuff to do in real life, so we consider making it fast and efficiently, with people who already know the dungeon. Whisper me if you are interested.

Why do most people use the short version ? Go figure... :-)

Besides this practicality, using abreviations feels like a "code", which most people (consciously or not) feel good about, as being "part of the community". Every "sub-society" has its codes, which allows people to recognize each other straight away as "fellow members" of said sub-society.

ESO slang is a mix of internet codes, gamer codes and the codes created by the game itself.

NovaShadow

Clearly a l2abbreviate issue.

Rather than sitting there and typing out looking for one member for gold key its so much easier and quicker to just type LF1m gold key. Most people know what it means.

Smileybones

Nobody ain't go no time to spell properly or make complete sentence. While I regret that so many people chat like if they were on their cellphone, there are some commonly used abbreviations that are usefull.

About grouping for dungeons, in the top of my head you got:

LF: looking for
LFG: looking for a group
LFM: looking for more (players, usually from an existing group)
LF2M: looking for 2 more players

501cp LF silver: "I wanna get carried through cheesy content" or "look at my e-***", don't answer these people, usually with an excessive ego.

Then usually people use the dungeon's name as abbreviation: this one is easy and you'll get used ot it, eg: BC stand for Banished Cells etc.

Feel free to ask for more specific abbreviations.

UltimaJoe777

Abbreviations have been used in not only online games but text messaging for many years now. At best all we do is add abbreviations to the existing list and of course we also use "gamer terminology" to describe things. Many of the people in this community are in the years that they can consider themselves veterans of the gaming genre in general dating as far back as NES or Atari or even further. If anything age is a sign of 1 of the following:

You're new to the scene and don't know the lingo but are still young.
You're new to the modern scene and not the old school scene and are not familiar with modern terminology.
You're an old fart and it's a miracle you can still game competitively, let alone keep up with the lingo.

Either way people create new terms as the need calls upon it, and we either acknowledge and adapt to it or ignore it.


May the farce be with you.

TheMachineKiller

You need shorthand notation. No one wants to spam throughout their guilds like
"Hello fellow gamers, it has come upon the time in which we shall do the daily dungeon veteran pledge along with our fellow brethren. Positions we're currently hiring for are (but not subject to): Tanking, Healing, and/or Damage Per-Second fellows. We appreciate your time here and we hope you consider taking upon this daily challenge with us."

Tipsy

Part of the problem is the group finder that is not working as it should.
The other thing is that most people are too lazy & most people never stay in role with their character.
So they just try to sell themselves like a dozen of eggs

Wollust

Well what's the point typing something fully if everyone understands the abbreviation?
Abbreviations are meant to make it easier and faster as long as there is a common understanding. Obviously meant for an informal way of communication. That has nothing to do with the deterioration of the language or whatever else people want to imply about it. I know it may be hard especially for older generations to understand it, but that's just how it is. Different generations will have different customs. Always. And I think that's good the way it is.

UltimaJoe777

TheMachineKiller wrote: »

You need shorthand notation. No one wants to spam throughout their guilds like
"Hello fellow gamers, it has come upon the time in which we shall do the daily dungeon veteran pledge along with our fellow brethren. Positions we're currently hiring for are (but not subject to): Tanking, Healing, and/or Damage Per-Second fellows. We appreciate your time here and we hope you consider taking upon this daily challenge with us."

This is actually common practice in the Gentleman's Guild.

ConeOfSilence

I hear you mate, been gaming since the days of Pac Man and Donkey Kong and the good o'l Atari 2600 and I don't understand the abbreviations most of the time haha whipper snappers these days.

Smileybones

Wollust wrote: »

Well what's the point typing something fully if everyone understands the abbreviation?
Abbreviations are meant to make it easier and faster as long as there is a common understanding. Obviously meant for an informal way of communication. That has nothing to do with the deterioration of the language or whatever else people want to imply about it. I know it may be hard especially for older generations to understand it, but that's just how it is. Different generations will have different customs. Always. And I think that's good the way it is.

I agree mostly. When I disagree is when your abbreviations step into common chat, I mean out of things like looking for a group when abbreviations are clearly handy.

I may be getting old too, but nothing annoys me more than someone in a normal discussion doesn't make the effort to correctly spell "you" (like if "u" saves you soooo many keystrokes) for example, when I clearly make the effort to make complete sentences.

Tipsy

Not making an effort for each other...
Playing next to each other instead of with each other ,and when they are done with a group;thanks,byebye..
Connecting on the level of a cheap love-making story
With the abundancy of abbreviations it becomes clear players value themselves most & others are not worth more of their time than it takes for a cheap cheese souffle to collapse...

TheDarkoil

Least they are usually only one line, hate it more in chat when guild recruitment spam massive walls of text. If no one abbreviated the chat would just be full all the time and it would be harder to spot stuff that interests you.

Tipsy

hmm then they might as well put links in the chat that automatically group you.
Pretty much like an item linked in the chat.
Then you can link "Normal:darkshade cavern" "silver:darkshade cavern" or "gold:darkshade cavern"
double click to join in...

rootimus

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

But why do people use so many abbreviations in this game and in other games? Has the skill of spelling became too complicated for so many out there? I'm not saying this to be mean, but most of the time I don't even understand what players are requesting, especially when it comes down asking people for dungeons in the zone.

I'm fairly certain it's just laziness and illiteracy; heck, even many of the abbreviations make no sense. Take "DLC", for example. "Downloadable" is one word, so if you really, really must abbreviate it, it should be DC.

Smileybones

Tipsy wrote: »

hmm then they might as well put links in the chat that automatically group you.
Pretty much like an item linked in the chat.
Then you can link "Normal:darkshade cavern" "silver:darkshade cavern" or "gold:darkshade cavern"
double click to join in...

They have this sort of system for grouping in Tera.

It's pretty neat: basically a LFG window on its own where people post LFG messages. One click and it send a PM to crown with an accept/decline option (1 click too). Also the window is not on the way when you don't want it to and you can look at it everytime you want to.

LastAmbushOnEarth

because its faster

are this idea do not roam across your head, author? lol

Apocalypse1981

Idk my bff jill?

Now seriously: its those damn americans and their acronyms. Makes us non americans wonder what are they trying to say!!!!

Specially when it has more than one meaning.

But meh, happy 4th of july to all americans.

Elohmrow

I thnk yu msspellt te titel

Elohmrow

it shud b "may -space- be"

Mwnci

Sensible abbreviations are fine (LFG, LFM etc); but it's a pet-peeve of mine when people start leaving out random letters from normal words for no reason (hy "hey", u "you" etc). It's like they're stuck in the '90s when our text messages were limited to 60 characters.

Tipsy

Smileybones wrote: »

Tipsy wrote: »

hmm then they might as well put links in the chat that automatically group you.
Pretty much like an item linked in the chat.
Then you can link "Normal:darkshade cavern" "silver:darkshade cavern" or "gold:darkshade cavern"
double click to join in...

They have this sort of system for grouping in Tera.

It's pretty neat: basically a LFG window on its own where people post LFG messages. One click and it send a PM to crown with an accept/decline option (1 click too). Also the window is not on the way when you don't want it to and you can look at it everytime you want to.

and then if people type "LFD spidleclutch" it does not appear in chat,but is automatically redirected to any spot in the LFG window where a spot is open for that respected dungeon +role xD
If no spots are open a link is created instead for that dungeon in the LFG window

Also the LFG window will automatically check if a player is eligible for a silver/gold version