Eidetic Memory Bugs/Comments/Help

Berenghar · December 2023

look what I have found

(maybe I am not the first or the only one)
"rituals of the sprout" in Grahtwood

SJK87 · December 2023

Tobyja wrote: »

SJK87 wrote: »

Sirona_Starr wrote: »

SJK87 wrote: »

Does anyone know if there is any way I can get the book “Letter to Lady Sulima” after the quest is finished?

You have to go back into the house to get it. It will be where the lorebook addon says it will be.

The door to the mansion is inactive after i finished quest and no letter in thieves den.

For PC i can confirm Sirona_Starr's comment.
Only the door on the westside is inactive, the eastern entrance is fine.
Edit: and you can reread the letter.

Thx a lot! Didn’t know about this entrance.

Altyrann · January 8

"How Rajhin Stole the Book that Knows" is currently at the weekly vendor in the archive. I grouped with someone on the quest to learn it and could then buy it. If anyone is still missing it and needs to read it, I have left a copy in my Mara's Kiss Inn Room (PC EU, same name in game, house should be open to visitors).

Daniel141182 · January 8

Any News on these?

Apocryphal Pages:
1) Ilasaba's Excuses
2) Onri Murien's Hidden Wishes
3) The Curse of Blackscale Island *
4) Zeirinia's Silent Admission
* this book was known before Update39, but it became unknown and impossible to read after that patch for people who has already done the related quest

Telvanni Tomes
1) Closed by Order of the Abbot
2) Communications Between Nilphas and Thorin

GeneralEU · January 8

Daniel141182 wrote: »

Any News on these?

Apocryphal Pages:
1) Ilasaba's Excuses
2) Onri Murien's Hidden Wishes
3) The Curse of Blackscale Island *
4) Zeirinia's Silent Admission
* this book was known before Update39, but it became unknown and impossible to read after that patch for people who has already done the related quest

Telvanni Tomes
1) Closed by Order of the Abbot
2) Communications Between Nilphas and Thorin

Zero news...

GeneralEU · January 29

Good news guys

But this need confirn by someone from NA server:

Djennku · January 29

GeneralEU wrote: »

Good news guys
But this need confirn by someone from NA server:

Found all of them.

Journal of justicuar avanaire require you to read a book before it appears. I'm still figuring out which.

Blackscale island is right outside the delve.

Communications is in the main central room of Kimmel-ze by the door to the quest boss.

Order of the abbot is on a very obvious signpost in front of the necropolis in the middle of Necrom outside the door.

The three books are found on bookshelf platforms in the hall of secrets/last room of the Ravening Morass building. They are all scrolls and easy to spot.

All bugged books accounted for and readable.

GeneralEU · January 29

Djennku wrote: »

GeneralEU wrote: »

Good news guys
But this need confirn by someone from NA server:

Found all of them.

Journal of justicuar avanaire require you to read a book before it appears. I'm still figuring out which.

Blackscale island is right outside the delve.

Communications is in the main central room of Kimmel-ze by the door to the quest boss.

Order of the abbot is on a very obvious signpost in front of the necropolis in the middle of Necrom outside the door.

The three books are found on bookshelf platforms in the hall of secrets/last room of the Ravening Morass building. They are all scrolls and easy to spot.

All bugged books accounted for and readable.

Good to know

Djennku · January 29

If anyone figures out the required book for the Journal of Justiciar Avanaire to appear, please let me know

Djennku · January 30

@ZOS_Kevin Are you able to give us a hint (or just tell us) which other book the patch notes are talking about for the Journal of Justiciar Avanaire? I'm going a bit crazy trying to figure it out XD

IdolaDeus · January 30

So we finally get some fix with Apocryphal Pages and Telvanni Tomes.

And some fix with Summerset Scrolls! Good to know.

BTW, is there any fix with other book in Tor-Hame-Khard? I've got “Journal of Justiciar Avanaire” but missed “For Captain Telomure”.

Since they're in the same quest I hope the later one has also been fixed in PTS.

Tobyja · January 30

Djennku wrote: »

[...]
Journal of justicuar avanaire require you to read a book before it appears. I'm still figuring out which.
[...]

Sorry, maybe you missunderstood something? There's no requirement for reading the Journal, as far as i know. They fixed a bug that hides the Journal, if you had read an other book before. And that's no longer the case.
Or do i miss something?

Djennku · January 31

Tobyja wrote: »

Djennku wrote: »

[...]
Journal of justicuar avanaire require you to read a book before it appears. I'm still figuring out which.
[...]

Sorry, maybe you missunderstood something? There's no requirement for reading the Journal, as far as i know. They fixed a bug that hides the Journal, if you had read an other book before. And that's no longer the case.
Or do i miss something?

On my main character, I completed the quest when summerset came out. I did it with a friend and/or missed reading it in my quest log and just never learned the book itself. It disappeared and I could not ever go back and read it on that character.

Then they added a fix to keep the book from disappearing years later, but it never worked for me. The book remained gone. I went in on the pts when it launched, and it's still gone.

BuffNukem · January 31

While I appreciate ZoS fixing the last of the bugged books from the Necrom chapter, I'm still amazed that still haven't gone back and fixed the rest of the repeatedly reported bugged books from Summerset.

Unless I've missed a recent update, books such as:
- Naliara's Notes, Days 2
- Naliara's Notes, Days 8
- Naliara's Notes, Days 13
- Naliara's Notes, Days 18
still DO NOT have a post quest location. This is a problem if you were grouped with another person to accomplish the King's Haven Pass delve quest "Savage Truths." Reading these books step out the quest and if you weren't the person in the group to read the book, it disappears forever. For example, I was grouped with another player for this quest and I read 2 and the groupmate read 2. There may have been other Summerset books that also had this same issue, but luckily I was solo at the time.

To this day, those 2 missing Naliaria's Notes lore book entries are all I'm missing on my main toon outside of the 6 Necrom books that are getting fixed in U41.

Djennku · January 31

BuffNukem wrote: »

While I appreciate ZoS fixing the last of the bugged books from the Necrom chapter, I'm still amazed that still haven't gone back and fixed the rest of the repeatedly reported bugged books from Summerset.

Unless I've missed a recent update, books such as:
- Naliara's Notes, Days 2
- Naliara's Notes, Days 8
- Naliara's Notes, Days 13
- Naliara's Notes, Days 18
still DO NOT have a post quest location. This is a problem if you were grouped with another person to accomplish the King's Haven Pass delve quest "Savage Truths." Reading these books step out the quest and if you weren't the person in the group to read the book, it disappears forever. For example, I was grouped with another player for this quest and I read 2 and the groupmate read 2. There may have been other Summerset books that also had this same issue, but luckily I was solo at the time.

To this day, those 2 missing Naliaria's Notes lore book entries are all I'm missing on my main toon outside of the 6 Necrom books that are getting fixed in U41.

I went in on the PTS looking for the book they fixed, and again, it's still gone. I did the same thing where I was grouped with another player and they read the book, making it disappear forever. I believe that's where this bug comes into play; having a group member read the book first.

Tobyja · February 1

Don't know why books have to disappear anyway. ZOS should let them all stay in the world, no matter what. And of course don't close buildings/structures/whatever post-quest. Until certain requirements are fullfilled, ok. Close things, hide them, do what you want. But after? I don't see any need to not let people backtrack, whenever they want.

So, i'm not on pts. Checked Journal of Justiciar Avanaire, For Captain Telomure and Pearl Research Notes, Log 3 on live-server and pre-quest. Soloed the delve, all (seemingly questrelated) books are readable and keep staying in the world after reading (obviously because quest-relationship).
I don't know, but: did you guys, who have trouble with one of those books, try to group again - with someone, who has read the books pre-quest and opens the quest, so he/she will not miss one him-/herself, but the books should be still there?
Just an idea.

Something different... today i stumbled over
Challenge of the Paramount and Challenge of the Archivist from tomes of tributes,
outside of the Gonfalon Gaming Hall. One in the north, the other on the southside.
Dont't know when they were added there, missed any info about it.
Just saying.

BuffNukem · February 1

Tobyja wrote: »

I don't know, but: did you guys, who have trouble with one of those books, try to group again - with someone, who has read the books pre-quest and opens the quest, so he/she will not miss one him-/herself, but the books should be still there?
Just an idea.

Naliara's Notes in King's Haven Pass do not work that way. The notes ONLY appear while actively on the quest and are highlighted by quest markers. Once a group member has read each one, they immediately disappear, and there is no Post Quest location known. The only way both players in a group to get credit for each of the lore books is to abandon the quest just before finishing and run it back again with each member picking up the ones they didn't get the first time. Unfortunately, I was unaware of this critical lore book bug in 2017 and completed the delve quest at the time, and since I can't ever repeat the quest I currently have no known means to get those missing lore books on my main until ZoS adds a post-quest location. This bug has been reported for years in this and several other threads, so I'm surprised that after almost 7 years this bug is still hasn't been fixed.

BradTheNord · February 1

So …. No post quest location for “mud covered letter” still even In PTS ?

(

IdolaDeus · February 1

Tobyja wrote: »

Don't know why books have to disappear anyway. ZOS should let them all stay in the world, no matter what. And of course don't close buildings/structures/whatever post-quest. Until certain requirements are fullfilled, ok. Close things, hide them, do what you want. But after? I don't see any need to not let people backtrack, whenever they want.

So, i'm not on pts. Checked Journal of Justiciar Avanaire, For Captain Telomure and Pearl Research Notes, Log 3 on live-server and pre-quest. Soloed the delve, all (seemingly questrelated) books are readable and keep staying in the world after reading (obviously because quest-relationship).
I don't know, but: did you guys, who have trouble with one of those books, try to group again - with someone, who has read the books pre-quest and opens the quest, so he/she will not miss one him-/herself, but the books should be still there?
Just an idea.

Something different... today i stumbled over
Challenge of the Paramount and Challenge of the Archivist from tomes of tributes,
outside of the Gonfalon Gaming Hall. One in the north, the other on the southside.
Dont't know when they were added there, missed any info about it.
Just saying.

Doesn't work for me on live-server. My friend can see those books pre/on quest, but I just see nothing.

What my groupmate see:

What I see:

GeneralEU · February 2

I checked the prologue and the two new dungeons.
I found most of the notes/books, but two I didn't find
All Our Perfect Forms - Dungeon/Proloque?
The Prophecy of Anudnabia - Dungeon/Proloque?

This one is probably from the prologue:
The Bladesongs of Boethra, Volume III - Prologue?

This one from the prologue, but for some reason if you take the quest from the Crown Store you don't get the note to EQ nor can you find it in the world.
Letter from Leramil the Wise

And this one is broken.... I mean you can see in the game world, but the interaction does not open the book itself:
The Nine Coruscations, Volume I

A total of 31 books/notes have been added

Djennku · February 2

GeneralEU wrote: »

I checked the prologue and the two new dungeons.
I found most of the notes/books, but two I didn't find
All Our Perfect Forms - Dungeon/Proloque?
The Prophecy of Anudnabia - Dungeon/Proloque?

This one is probably from the prologue:
The Bladesongs of Boethra, Volume III - Prologue?

This one from the prologue, but for some reason if you take the quest from the Crown Store you don't get the note to EQ nor can you find it in the world.
Letter from Leramil the Wise

And this one is broken.... I mean you can see in the game world, but the interaction does not open the book itself:
The Nine Coruscations, Volume I

A total of 31 books/notes have been added

Bladesongs vol 3 can be found in the prologue at the temple with vol 2 on either side of the door behind the senche-raht in Dune.

GeneralEU · February 2

Djennku wrote: »

GeneralEU wrote: »

I checked the prologue and the two new dungeons.
I found most of the notes/books, but two I didn't find
All Our Perfect Forms - Dungeon/Proloque?
The Prophecy of Anudnabia - Dungeon/Proloque?

This one is probably from the prologue:
The Bladesongs of Boethra, Volume III - Prologue?

This one from the prologue, but for some reason if you take the quest from the Crown Store you don't get the note to EQ nor can you find it in the world.
Letter from Leramil the Wise

And this one is broken.... I mean you can see in the game world, but the interaction does not open the book itself:
The Nine Coruscations, Volume I

A total of 31 books/notes have been added

Bladesongs vol 3 can be found in the prologue at the temple with vol 2 on either side of the door behind the senche-raht in Dune.

Ohh, so 2 missing and 2 bugged

Thanks!

jle30303 · February 2

There are also still two books which have no post-quest location, which can be reached only by joining a group with a player who is in mid-quest:

Cipher Akacirn's Journal (Apocrypha, Quires Wind)

Arnoit and Lisette: The Truth (Galen)

In both cases, the book is in an area which is only temporarily available, and has no post-quest location. More to the point, even "finding someone who's in the correct portion of the quest to group up with" is not entirely easy since in both cases, it's only a fairly short quest, and finding someone who is in the middle of it - rather than hasn't started it, or has already finished it - is itself problematic: so this really should not be the solution.

So these two books need a PERMANENTLY ACCESSIBLE post-quest location, in an area that does not close off, and does not rely on being part of a group with someone whose quest status is at the right point.

Djennku · February 2

GeneralEU wrote: »

I checked the prologue and the two new dungeons.
I found most of the notes/books, but two I didn't find
All Our Perfect Forms - Dungeon/Proloque?
The Prophecy of Anudnabia - Dungeon/Proloque?

This one is probably from the prologue:
The Bladesongs of Boethra, Volume III - Prologue?

This one from the prologue, but for some reason if you take the quest from the Crown Store you don't get the note to EQ nor can you find it in the world.
Letter from Leramil the Wise

And this one is broken.... I mean you can see in the game world, but the interaction does not open the book itself:
The Nine Coruscations, Volume I

A total of 31 books/notes have been added

Letter from Lermail the Wise is from the Necrom Prologue. Did they bug it out and remove it from the EM? I have it on live.

Protector1981 · February 2

Maybe Inventory at Quest-Start? Under Quest Items?

GeneralEU · February 2

Djennku wrote: »

GeneralEU wrote: »

I checked the prologue and the two new dungeons.
I found most of the notes/books, but two I didn't find
All Our Perfect Forms - Dungeon/Proloque?
The Prophecy of Anudnabia - Dungeon/Proloque?

This one is probably from the prologue:
The Bladesongs of Boethra, Volume III - Prologue?

This one from the prologue, but for some reason if you take the quest from the Crown Store you don't get the note to EQ nor can you find it in the world.
Letter from Leramil the Wise

And this one is broken.... I mean you can see in the game world, but the interaction does not open the book itself:
The Nine Coruscations, Volume I

A total of 31 books/notes have been added

Letter from Lermail the Wise is from the Necrom Prologue. Did they bug it out and remove it from the EM? I have it on live.

I check the data and it looks like there are 2 lists with the same title added in U37 and U41, but with different content.

Quest

In U37 - I received a letter from Leramil the Wise. She asked me to meet her in Stormhaven.
In U41 - I received a letter from Leramil the Wise. Hermaeus Mora, Daedric Prince of Fate, requires a mortal proxy. The Dremora Torvesard seeks to unlock a secret hidden in the vaults of Apocrypha. If he succeeds, reality itself could be in danger.

Letter from U37 -

Fate has selected you to aid me in a perilous situation. Know that the future of at least two worlds hangs in the balance.

The Lord of Secrets, Hermaeus Mora, has predicted that only with your assistance can I save Nirn. Meet me in Stormhaven and learn more of this dire threat.

Leramill the Wise

Letter from U41 -

Once again, Hermaeus Mora calls upon you to serve as fate's champion. The Dremora Torvesard seeks to unlock a secret hidden in the depths of Apocrypha. If he succeeds, reality itself could be in peril.

The Lord of Secrets predicts that only with your assistance can we deflect Torvesard from his reckless course. Meet me in your alliance's capital city and I will explain what is required of you.

Leramill the Wise

Protector1981 wrote: »

Maybe Inventory at Quest-Start? Under Quest Items?

After i take a quest? Yes i check many times furing quest :disorddownemote: xD

LMarshall910 · February 4

Does anyone know where I can get "Letter to Vibius Sosia" post quest? I'm on Xbox EU so can't use a pc addon.

UESP suggests it is in the Waking Flame Camp, but I cannot get in the entrance after the "Peace's wretched price" quest.

Map marker of where to get in during the quest shown here:

Thanks in advance.

GeneralEU · February 4

LMarshall910 wrote: »

Does anyone know where I can get "Letter to Vibius Sosia" post quest? I'm on Xbox EU so can't use a pc addon.

UESP suggests it is in the Waking Flame Camp, but I cannot get in the entrance after the "Peace's wretched price" quest.

Map marker of where to get in during the quest shown here:

Thanks in advance.

This note is probably bugged if you didn't collect it during the quest...

RoseVex · February 4

Has anyone actually found these books on bookshelves?

Emeric's Judgment - Galen and Y'ffelon
Exodus of the Druids - Galen and Y'ffelon
The Tempest and the Sunflower - Galen and Y'ffelon
The Distributed Soul - Imperial City/Sewers (addon says Shadowfen though)

IdolaDeus · February 4

RoseVex wrote: »

Has anyone actually found these books on bookshelves?

Emeric's Judgment - Galen and Y'ffelon
Exodus of the Druids - Galen and Y'ffelon
The Tempest and the Sunflower - Galen and Y'ffelon
The Distributed Soul - Imperial City/Sewers (addon says Shadowfen though)

I've not played Galen yet. The Distributed Soul is randomly spawned in Imperial City bookshelves, with a very-low probability. I found it about 4 month ago, when trying to get year 2920 Vol 27, which is also in IC bookshelves.