[Permabans being lifted] ZOS how are we as a community dealing with exploits/hacking?

Nifty2g

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Don't you think they get bad results when they were trying to track down the cheaters? Its very possible that they unbanned these people because they didn't cheat and have proof on their end. No need for tin foil hats here leave that for in real life restricted area theories.

Anyone who has half a brain just needs to look at leaderboards to see, especially when this hacking was in prime to get that. Not to mention, most of the people who were wrongly banned were unbanned in a day or 2. This person and some others(?) was unbanned 3 weeks after. It's clear at this point they turned their backs on their word, forgot to mention one of them was perma banned before prior to this. But we may as well let the community will with toxicity

Rohamad_Ali

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Don't you think they get bad results when they were trying to track down the cheaters? Its very possible that they unbanned these people because they didn't cheat and have proof on their end. No need for tin foil hats here leave that for in real life restricted area theories.

Hahaha thank you I was hoping for a good tension breaking laugh .

Whatzituyah

Nifty2g wrote: »

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Don't you think they get bad results when they were trying to track down the cheaters? Its very possible that they unbanned these people because they didn't cheat and have proof on their end. No need for tin foil hats here leave that for in real life restricted area theories.

Anyone who has half a brain just needs to look at leaderboards to see, especially when this hacking was in prime to get that. Not to mention, most of the people who were wrongly banned were unbanned in a day or 2. This person and some others(?) was unbanned 3 weeks after. It's clear at this point they turned their backs on their word, forgot to mention one of them was perma banned before prior to this. But we may as well let the community will with toxicity

Well they could reset the leaderboards ile give you that.

yodased

Well from a development standpoint:

If I just created a system that detects and automatically bans players who cheat, what better way than to relinquish the punishment of known cheaters, so they cheat again and I have definitive test results of my detection measures working.

But that's none of my business

LadyNalcarya

Bans for cheating are being lifted?
UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE.
ZOS doesnt seem to understand that reputation lost for doing this costs them more than playing cheaters, even if they buy all the crown shop goods.

LadyNalcarya

Bans for cheating are being lifted?
UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE.
ZOS doesnt seem to understand that reputation lost for doing this costs them more than playing cheaters, even if they buy all the crown shop goods.

Whatzituyah

yodased wrote: »

Well from a development standpoint:

If I just created a system that detects and automatically bans players who cheat, what better way than to relinquish the punishment of known cheaters, so they cheat again and I have definitive test results of my detection measures working.

But that's none of my business

Good point! Its definitely clever to do it that way so they fine tune the instruments which most likely they would have to tune again.

@yodased

kevlarto_ESO

to bad if they cheated and were caught, perma ban needs to mean just that permanent, we don't want them or need them in the game, cheaters the lowest of the low, in any form or game.

ishilb14_ESO

Why are the cheaters unbanned? Why weren't their leaderboards scores wiped? ZOS wants people to use cheatengine to get high scores for Maelstrom and other dungeons? Speedhackers got unbanned, does that mean I can speed hack in pvp now @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

Ffastyl

This pile of games I never played because of ESO is looking more and more enticing...

AhPook_Is_Here

Sometimes 21 days feels like FOREVER to a teenager!

Polysemy

Disgusting, absolutely *** disgusting.

Roechacca

Hackers huh. I told all you in 2014 and ya went an said I was nutz. Who nutz now?

LadyNalcarya

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

Why are the cheaters unbanned? Why weren't their leaderboards scores wiped? ZOS wants people to use cheatengine to get high scores for Maelstrom and other dungeons? Speedhackers got unbanned, does that mean I can speed hack in pvp now @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?

Well, when they banned people who got 1000s of raw mats through survey bugs for 3 days (and not all of them even), they basically said that exploiting is fine.
So what message unbanning speedhackers brings? That everything allowed, and fair players should be in disadvantage?
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

DUTCH_REAPER

We play by the rules and get the short end of the stick. This is pathetic. Btw ZOS every time I send you the link of the video with the cheaters I caught on Shadowplay 4 days ago, you know the ones who got to zero health but never died, you keep sending me a reply saying unable to recieve it??? It's a link ZOS. A link. Should I just post them here???

Patience is waning fast.

Nifty2g

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

We play by the rules and get the short end of the stick. This is pathetic. Btw ZOS every time I send you the link of the video with the cheaters I caught on Shadowplay 4 days ago, you know the ones who got to zero health but never died, you keep sending me a reply saying unable to recieve it??? It's a link ZOS. A link. Should I just post them here???

Patience is waning fast.

No please don't, of all things we don't want to give an excuse to lock this

DUTCH_REAPER

Roger that.

DUTCH_REAPER

I even sent a reply back to customer support asking them to tell me how they want the file then since they don't accept the link. But nothing zero zip. Silence.

Polysemy

Have some *** balls you lame excuse for a company... People ruin your game and you unban them? are you kidding me? not to mention the fact you still havnt reset the leaderboards... so the people actually capable of being #1 cant be because of some pathetic 12 year old who has no moral compass or sliver of intergrity

NovaShadow

I'm surprised ya'll didn't see this coming a mile away.

Remember that time they banned a certain streamer then un-banned him 15 mins later.

How ya'll thought this'd be any different is beyond me.

ZOS doesn't stick to banning. History tells us this. Why would they suddenly change now...

Malthorne

"Play dirty, get away clean"

Arvs

Are you serious ZOS? You didn't even ban some of the people blatantly using the Cheat Engine and now you unban the ones who you did? This is *** pathetic, shame on you.

HoloYoitsu

Welp, the thread about that certain player getting unbanned has now been locked w/ no mod explanation.

Go figure.

UltimaJoe777

@Polysemy You done? It's understandable the PC Playerbase is upset but you've made multiple bash threads at Zenimax now with little time between them. At least wait awhile before the next one...

Rohamad_Ali

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Welp, the thread about that certain player getting unbanned has now been locked w/ no mod explanation.

Go figure.

#Illuminati

Whatzituyah

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

I even sent a reply back to customer support asking them to tell me how they want the file then since they don't accept the link. But nothing zero zip. Silence.

They probably want the raw file thats viewable in media software.

Zoner

Hey ZOS,

So how do you think players who got permabanned for swearing and lost accounts built up since beta, and got told to stop appealing or their IPs would be banned, are going to react to the news that exploiting the banker and using cheat engine aren't as bad as making Bill Cosby jokes?

You really think this is fair?

DUTCH_REAPER

Whatzituyah wrote: »

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

I even sent a reply back to customer support asking them to tell me how they want the file then since they don't accept the link. But nothing zero zip. Silence.

They probably want the raw file thats viewable in media software.

I'll try it like that then. Just didn't think they could accept a file that big. Worth a shot though.

forzajuve212

@Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Can you give the ESO community a reason for two things:

1) Why are players who were perma banned able to loophole around the system and just create new accounts?
2) Why are players who were perma banned regaining access to their old accounts that were banned?

Whatzituyah

forzajuve212 wrote: »

@Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Can you give the ESO community a reason for two things:

1) Why are players who were perma banned able to loophole around the system and just create new accounts?
2) Why are players who were perma banned regaining access to their old accounts that were banned?

1 happens all the time but 2 have no idea.