Compilation of TG bugs in PvP [Current Bug Counter: 89] OP reformatted 4/10/16

HoloYoitsu

Lava_Croft wrote: »

This might be the case, but the amount of damage dealt before I die seems to counter this. Guess this needs proper testing.

It does show up on the recap before the killing blow though.

I mean...unless something was broken w/ VD between the last PTS iteration and Live....

sadownik

I hope people wont mind me chiming up to this great thread. @HoloYoitsu i also noticed VD proc on my recap on third position with nobody around. At least im pretty sure there was nobody. No screen shot, no video but there si something fishy going on for sure.

Soulac

My combat log says the following:
If I use surprise attack and it would kill you, then the vicious death proc will come before the surprise attack dmg. You'd have died anyway, but it seems it is zos way to get it working..

Etaniel

Lava_Croft wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Or do you mean how the VD dmg shows up on the person's death recap when you land a killing blow on them and their body explodes from VD?

This might be the case, but the amount of damage dealt before I die seems to counter this. Guess this needs proper testing.

It does show up on the recap before the killing blow though.

Wouldn't be surprised if that happened only in lag situations, hence hard to actually test. But Derra noticed it yesterday too, random vicious death procs. It surely isn't working 100% as it should.

Morozov

reften wrote: »

Is it time to cut the eso cord...

CU isn't out yet, so not quite

Lava_Croft

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

This might be the case, but the amount of damage dealt before I die seems to counter this. Guess this needs proper testing.

It does show up on the recap before the killing blow though.

I mean...unless something was broken w/ VD between the last PTS iteration and Live....

Some more talk about strange VD procs:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2788504/#Comment_2788504
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2788620/#Comment_2788620

Scamandros

Soulac wrote: »

My combat log says the following:
If I use surprise attack and it would kill you, then the vicious death proc will come before the surprise attack dmg. You'd have died anyway, but it seems it is zos way to get it working..

Having just tested this not long ago in a controlled 'fight' with some friends, this is exactly what was happening for us. Tried a few close shaves where we get the person down to like 50hp, but couldnt get VD to proc early. In all kills on my side VD registered on combat log the moment before the killing blow was logged. I believe this majority of issues can be attributed to this misleading UI.
There could be more bugs with VD, but at this point it would be hard to seperate any real issues from the misleading UI stuff.

Xeven

Empower increases the tooltip damage for things like Curse, but does not increase the actual applied damage.

HoloYoitsu

Xeven wrote: »

Empower increases the tooltip damage for things like Curse, but does not increase the actual applied damage.

Could you get me a screenshot/vid? I won't be able to do one till late tonight.

And you mean dots in general?

ZOS_GinaBruno

Thanks for your patience, all. Here are some more replies to the additional questions/bugs reported:

1. Clouding Swarm stealth functionality is buggy. The animations changed and your char disappears after ~1 second. When you're revealed by flare, inner light, mark (and I think detect pot as well) you can't see your char but the enemies can, so you actually don't know whether you are invisible to your enemies or not. Finally and probably the worst, if you tab target somebody you can still target him even if he uses clouding swarm without any revealing skill. We weren’t able to reproduce this issue, unfortunately. Do you guys have any additional information that may help?
2. After completing a Dodge Roll, there is about a 1 sec GCD that prevents you from blocking immediately. You can still move and cast abilities, just not block. There's a short delay before doing just about everything after a Dodge Roll, so this sounds like it’s actually working as originally designed.
3. Forward momentum when jumping while standing still has been greatly reduced. This was actually a side effect from another bug fix we made where if a snared player jumped, their speed would not be reduced.
4. DK Scales does not reflect Flying Blade. We weren’t able to reproduce this issue after multiple attempts, and Reflective Scales appears to be functioning properly.
5. Retreating Maneuvers is bugged once someone on group casts it on you, after that whenever they refresh it - even if you're not in range of it, you gain the speed buff again, the snare/root immunity does not refresh this way though. Thanks! We found the same issue, and will get it fixed in a future incremental patch.
6. All shoulder pieces now float above the shoulder. This will be fixed in a future patch.
7. All DK standards use the AD texture for the flag. This will be fixed in a future patch.
8. Spamming Blazing Spear can proc unbreakable CC. This will be fixed in a future patch.
9. Blazing Shield does not count as an Aedric Spear ability, it does not a ovary any of the passives. This will be fixed in a future patch.
10. Templar's Piercing Spear passive can be lost by rezoning. This will be fixed in a future patch.
11. Purifying Light ignores Cyrodiil Battle Spirit dmg reduction. Intended or bug? This is intended.
12. Burning Embers can do 100k heals (50k in Cyrodiil). As with Radiant Destruction, some abilities can do pretty high amounts of damage in certain situations; as such, this is working as designed.
13. Igneous Weapons does not give the Major Brutality buff when cast in certain locations, including Cyrodiil keeps. Thank you, this will be fixed in a future patch.
14. Arrius Mine is missing a wood plank on the ground by the flag. It’s possible this is being caused by the current issue with 64-bit clients where some textures are pink and/or missing. Once this issue is fixed, please circle back and let us know if it’s still occurring.
15. DK Scales drains the user's stamina when reflecting Snipe. Thanks for the info, this will be fixed in a future patch.
16. Trinimac shoulders have a texture display bug. This is something we’re aware of, and are working on a fix.
17. Potions now share the global ability cool down, i.e. You cannot use a potion while in a dodge roll. The potion audio fx will still play, but the potion does not get used. [Not a TG change, but not listed in patch notes. Was this intended?] You shouldn't be able to do anything while dodge rolling, and the audio portion is a bug.
18. Corrosive Armor does not correctly cap all incoming dmg at 3% max health. Example: Surprise Attack hitting through it for 2.5k dmg We weren’t able to reproduce this. Do you have any additional information?
19. Purge is bugged in the same was as Retreating Maneuvers for groups. When someone casts Purge in group it causes the Purge buff to show up on your bar and the decreased negative effect time shiney texture visual to show on your character model. This happens even if you do not get the Purge effect and are no where in range. Thanks, we’ll make sure this gets fixed in a future patch.

Mumyo

WE STILL CAN NOT CHARGE after a bug was fixed that didn't even exist.
Was anyone not able to attack after the charge? Because that is what was fixed as it seems.

Still can't charge...
So toppling charge is bugged for 2 years with that issue and you manage to give every other charge the same bug? After 2 years of trying to fix it.

It is funny i must say but sad at the same time.

Xeven

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Empower increases the tooltip damage for things like Curse, but does not increase the actual applied damage.

Could you get me a screenshot/vid? I won't be able to do one till late tonight.

And you mean dots in general?

Check your curse tooltip before and after using mage light or inner light (with the might of the guild passive of course). The tooltip damage will increase, but the actual applied damage will not.

Empower may or may not be intended to increase DOT damage, but it IS increasing the tooltip (for Curse at least). Either way however, Curse should not be considered a DOT, neither should Mines. They do not proc surge crit heals, and Empower probably should work on these abilities. I don't see why it shouldnt.

Soulac

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for your patience, all. Here are some more replies to the additional questions/bugs reported:

1. Clouding Swarm stealth functionality is buggy. The animations changed and your char disappears after ~1 second. When you're revealed by flare, inner light, mark (and I think detect pot as well) you can't see your char but the enemies can, so you actually don't know whether you are invisible to your enemies or not. Finally and probably the worst, if you tab target somebody you can still target him even if he uses clouding swarm without any revealing skill. We weren’t able to reproduce this issue, unfortunately. Do you guys have any additional information that may help?

1) If you use clouding swarm it´s instantly noticeable that it takes at least a second to actually go invisible.
2) If you use single target abilities while looking at the flying health bar of the player using clouding swarm you´re able to hit them.

The bug is easy to reproduce by using it and I´m not sure why it needs additional information..

MissBizz

Forward momentum when jumping while standing still has been greatly reduced. This was actually a side effect from another bug fix we made where if a snared player jumped, their speed would not be reduced.

Is there going to be an attempt to "fix" this icky side effect?

HoloYoitsu

Added video for the Streak camera desync bug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYLvT38u1g[

Lava_Croft

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

1. Clouding Swarm stealth functionality is buggy. The animations changed and your char disappears after ~1 second. When you're revealed by flare, inner light, mark (and I think detect pot as well) you can't see your char but the enemies can, so you actually don't know whether you are invisible to your enemies or not. Finally and probably the worst, if you tab target somebody you can still target him even if he uses clouding swarm without any revealing skill. We weren’t able to reproduce this issue, unfortunately. Do you guys have any additional information that may help?
2. Arrius Mine is missing a wood plank on the ground by the flag. It’s possible this is being caused by the current issue with 64-bit clients where some textures are pink and/or missing. Once this issue is fixed, please circle back and let us know if it’s still occurring.

Clouding Swarm bugs listed here are instantly noticeable when one uses Clouding Swarm on the Live server.

The wooden planks missing at Arrius Mine is a bug that's also present in the 32-bit client.

Lastly: I hope the frame rate issues that have been present since the Thieves Guild update are not marked as 'solved' because of a hotfix that didn't really do anything.

PainfulFAFA

I like the part where she didnt mention anything regarding Charge skills.
Crit rush, Invasion,, literally every gap closer got the Toppling Charge treatment ffs

Chingowey

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We weren’t able to reproduce this issue, unfortunately. Do you guys have any additional information that may help? ]

@ZOS_GinaBruno Have you guys considered that maybe the reason you are unable to "reproduce" these issues lies in the fact that you attempt to do so on a separate server without a hundred or more other players? Many of these issues seem to be a result of server-side lag. For instance, the issue with the camera delay after a sorcerer streaks is something I have ONLY experienced in prime-time laggy situations.

Not all of these issues present themselves in situations where ping is higher than average, but most of them seem to. I strongly encourage you guys to reassess your "testing" methods.

Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO

HEY @ZOS_GinaBruno.

Define "future patch" for me, please.

HoloYoitsu

Thanks @ZOS_GinaBruno for the updates again, I'll add them to the OP when I'm home tonight.

As a side note, were you able to go over the bugs you addressed in your first round of replies? I've updated a number of them with videos since then.

Xeven wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Empower increases the tooltip damage for things like Curse, but does not increase the actual applied damage.

Could you get me a screenshot/vid? I won't be able to do one till late tonight.

And you mean dots in general?

Check your curse tooltip before and after using mage light or inner light (with the might of the guild passive of course). The tooltip damage will increase, but the actual applied damage will not.

Empower may or may not be intended to increase DOT damage, but it IS increasing the tooltip (for Curse at least). Either way however, Curse should not be considered a DOT, neither should Mines. They do not proc surge crit heals, and Empower probably should work on these abilities. I don't see why it shouldnt.

Kk, added to the list.

technohic

Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO wrote: »

HEY @ZOS_GinaBruno.

Define "future patch" for me, please.

A patch that will happen after now. Duh.

silky_soft

Empower doesn't work on proxy either

Niaver

So what about critical charge? It worked fine before TG update, now it's completely broken.

ZOS_GinaBruno

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Thanks @ZOS_GinaBruno for the updates again, I'll add them to the OP when I'm home tonight.

As a side note, were you able to go over the bugs you addressed in your first round of replies? I've updated a number of them with videos since then.

You're welcome, and that's on the list for tomorrow.

Caza99

Umm I'm still processing the 100k DK heal as working as designed...

PainfulFAFA

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Thanks @ZOS_GinaBruno for the updates again, I'll add them to the OP when I'm home tonight.

As a side note, were you able to go over the bugs you addressed in your first round of replies? I've updated a number of them with videos since then.

You're welcome, and that's on the list for tomorrow.

Gina, is vicious death set working as intended?
People are able to proc it even before the last hit lands.
Vampires, who are supposed to have last minute mitigation, are being 1 shotted by VD proccing before theyre even dead

Erondil

Healing springs: If you have manoeuver active, doesnt matter where you try to aim it healing springs will be centered on yourself and you lose manoeuver even if you're the only one standing in the AoE.

PainfulFAFA

Caza99 wrote: »

Umm I'm still processing the 100k DK heal as working as designed...

Im guessing the DK heal is a HoT and the 100k is the total HoT you got while you had Embers on. All you gotta do is micromanage that Ember DoT and your heals will be better.

HoloYoitsu

Erondil wrote: »

Healing springs: If you have manoeuver active, doesnt matter where you try to aim it healing springs will be centered on yourself and you lose manoeuver even if you're the only one standing in the AoE.

Already addressed.

11. Rapids gets removed from casting AoE heals, even when the heal does not touch anyone else. The patch notes only state Rapids is removed by abilities affecting other players.
This is working as intended.

Yiko

MissBizz wrote: »

Forward momentum when jumping while standing still has been greatly reduced. This was actually a side effect from another bug fix we made where if a snared player jumped, their speed would not be reduced.

Is there going to be an attempt to "fix" this icky side effect?

Yeah, I can't tell if base movement speed is lower, but having major expedition lowered from 40%-30% with limits on forward momentum for sure make me feel sluggish at times