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Stealth nerf to Puncturing Sweep :(

  • Holy-Dope
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    Derra wrote: »
    Well - if you take into account that you can now easily get major mending on your sweep heals as a templar i´d say it´s a change you can live with.

    Someone who never played a templar....
    DC- Holy DOPE, Altmer Nightblade
    (And many those who did not make it to the end R.I.P.)

  • Zinaroth
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    Holy-Dope wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Well - if you take into account that you can now easily get major mending on your sweep heals as a templar i´d say it´s a change you can live with.

    Someone who never played a templar....

    Actually Derra has a templar and is placed pretty high on the leaderboards on EU for vMA.
    I don't agree with everything he says but he has knowledge, albeit very subjective knowledge given his main is a sorcerer.
  • Holy-Dope
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    Derra wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    @Derra So in your opinion we don't deserve an armor buff that sticks to us or what is your actual point here? I thought you were primarely a Sorcerer anyway? Isn't there something else you can discuss here on forums that makes more sense fighting against? Or do you like keeping the Templar class down? Sorry mate we've known each other for some time but I don't see the grand plan of what you're trying to achieve here in this thread other than sowing doubt about whether Templars and in particular Stamina Templars needs some additional buffs or quality of life changes. We don't really need that, seems ZOS themselves have enough doubt about what to do with the Templars.

    I´m not fighting anything.
    Honestly i have no idea why you guys now come up with an amor buff now. That´s not what what i was talking about at all.
    I´d love some stamina templar buffs though, my poor bosmer templar was created the second day i started the game and has not seen much sunlight since then (only dungeons).
    AfkNinja wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    AfkNinja wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Epona222 wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Well - if you take into account that you can now easily get major mending on your sweep heals as a templar i´d say it´s a change you can live with.

    So... while I am standing still in a very small area, I can briefly get major mending. If I stand still and don't attempt to move out of the way of any attacks coming towards me. As long as I stand still it's all OK?

    I would not declare purifying ritual a very small area.

    itscompton wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Well - if you take into account that you can now easily get major mending on your sweep heals as a templar i´d say it´s a change you can live with.
    Sure let's nerf sorc shields down to nothing and you can live with that. Go troll somewhere else.

    Only my personal opinion from playing a templar in pve admittedly. I will prefer 35% heal on sweep with a 25% heal increase over 40% heal without the major mending.

    Not when you take Templar to VMA and have to recast ritual or rune constantly while moving around the arena....and then there's PVP which is what most of us are mad about. 1 Gap closer and we are no longer in the ritual...

    I was referring to vmsa when i said pve. But i´m admittedly ~50k behind the top templars on my bosmer magica build after 6 runs - so what do i know.

    It doesn't bother you at all that Templar's armor rune is the only one in the game that doesn't stick to the user? Really? You desire having to recast rune or ritual every time you move? It doesn't upset you DK gets the exact same Major Mending buff by just using Igneous Shield, which sticks to him?

    Do you really not see where we are coming from here? Do you consider yourself a Templar or is the class just casual fun for you? I've always thought of you as a sorc... If Templar was your only class can you say these changes would not bother you? I get that it's a net positive, but it's only a positive when in our rune/ritual. I just flat out don't see the logic in a pitiful 5% healing nerf on Sweeps.

    Well if you compare templar ritual to igneous shield - i´d prefer ritual for magica and igneous for stam admittedly. They´re both good skills.

    I don´t like the ability design of rune focus at all for templar (and the magica reg nerf is outright stupid). I´ve not been talking about this skill though. I´ve talked about ritual.

    Essiaga wrote: »
    many words... Rune gives us and 8 second buff and if you stand in it you get to regen magicka. Rune does NOTHING to the enemy. many more words

    Wow you guys really dislike rune focus. I get that. I think it´s bad too. I just was not talking about this ability at all.
    You started with "never fighting a templar in ritual" - i just made the comment: that´s the same as stating to never fight a sorc in mines.
    You are never going to kill that player. Nothing else i´ve wanted to say about it. So no need to write an essay.


    I don´t get the templar hype/hate aswell as the DK hype. Aslong as there is no option for those classes to gain some sort of magica related mobility they will still have issues.

    I´m not arguing against anything. I just stated that i personally think major mending while in ritual will be a buff for the way i play my templar.
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Holy-Dope wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Well - if you take into account that you can now easily get major mending on your sweep heals as a templar i´d say it´s a change you can live with.

    Someone who never played a templar....

    Actually Derra has a templar and is placed pretty high on the leaderboards on EU for vMA.
    I don't agree with everything he says but he has knowledge, albeit very subjective knowledge given his main is a sorcerer.

    Comment taken back...

    But fact still stands he doesn't know "What is under discussion here".

    And since thsi thread is not about knowledge of a perticular person but rather something important about a Class- skill....pls stop commenting on this comment.
    Edited by Holy-Dope on February 10, 2016 3:22PM
    DC- Holy DOPE, Altmer Nightblade
    (And many those who did not make it to the end R.I.P.)

  • Holy-Dope
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    however...just for giggles....71va95udwtlq.jpg
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    (And many those who did not make it to the end R.I.P.)

  • Casdha
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    Its just like any other job, It's called Job Justification. I see it most often when you put someone with a construction mentality in charge of a skilled work group. They can't grasp the fact that if everything is working their workers are doing a good job so they push for busy work and unintentionally cause them to break stuff. Of course then they can point the finger at them for breaking it and appear as though they are doing their job because they found the person that caused the problem. They never face the fact that it was their fault in the first place because they don't understand the work they are in charge of.

    Edit: I should note that in my analogy I view ZOS as the skilled workers and The voice of the money people as the construction mentality boss
    Edited by Casdha on February 10, 2016 3:38PM
    Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%

  • TRoclodyte
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    ZOS_KNowak wrote: »
    Joy_Division,

    Thanks for bringing this to our attention. This change was intended, and we apologize for missing the patch note for it. Ultimately, the rationale was that the change to the Focused Healing passive means Puncturing Sweep is now eligible for that healing bonus and will heal for more than compared to Live. So we reduced Puncturing Sweep's healing by 5% to compensate; in the end, it's still a net buff to total healing.

    Yeah, it's a buff only if you decide to remove another skill from your bar to slot rune focus or purifying ritual.
    So now you want templars, no matter their role, to be idiots that stand in a little rune area forever?
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