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Who's Turn is it for Character Copy?

Casdha
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Who's Turn is it for Character Copy?

I was just wondering about this, Also

Will it be on PTS long enough for Both Servers to get a Character Copy?
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  • NTclaymore
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    its the US turn. Its allways the US turn.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    We're currently planning on doing a North American character copy first when the PTS is updated with Thieves Guild, and later switching so characters from the European megaserver get equal amounts of testing time.
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  • Gilliamtherogue
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    Do the EU first. I want the second copy after all of the broken stuff is fixed.

    Yeah I'm sick of getting shafted for testing things with my characters since the first build of PTS patches is always broken in some horrendous way.
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  • code65536
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    Can we please get more frequent character copies? We in NA get 2 weeks of time, then EU gets an entire quarter. If I want to test something (for example, crafting a very expensive set of gear and see how well it does), I can't do that on the PTS because my character isn't there for all but two weeks per quarter.

    Do a copy every month or so, so that the PTS is available for testing things outside of pure DLC testing.
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno are there plans to do multiple cycles of character copies this go-round? This would enable is to test fixes to the update program that need to go in before go live. We want to avoid another bank update problem, and this is the only way to verify a fix did resolve the issue.
    Edited by lonewolf26 on January 21, 2016 10:39PM
  • Enodoc
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    Don't forget they have to balance character copies with progression. Every time they do a copy, progression is wiped, so they need the copies on there for long enough for people to reach the "end" of the content. I remember having to restart one of the previous DLCs three times because they did extra copies in the middle of a cycle.
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  • DschiPeunt
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    I still don't understand, why they cannot copy the chars from both servers at the same time. Anyone can explain?
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  • kungmoo
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    DschiPeunt wrote: »
    I still don't understand, why they cannot copy the chars from both servers at the same time. Anyone can explain?

    for one, character names... there may be someone on EU with the same name as you... so would complicate things there
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  • Casdha
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    DschiPeunt wrote: »
    I still don't understand, why they cannot copy the chars from both servers at the same time. Anyone can explain?

    Redundant character names, and folks like me who have characters made on both servers.
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  • Kas
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    We're currently planning on doing a North American character copy first when the PTS is updated with Thieves Guild, and later switching so characters from the European megaserver get equal amounts of testing time.

    Could you PLEASE try to compile templates that are somewhat in the line (quality-wise) with the second templates during last pts. It would be really nice if EU players could start testing the interesting things (trial, class balance) with templates, already.

    Also for CP: I very much preferred the 1.6 style where templates actually offered MORE CP. Some people just had fun with 3.6k, but if you were serious, you could try out different allocations and figure out how the scaling numbers work in practice.

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  • Cinbri
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    We need templates with all new sets to test with the first transfer, not to wait half a month to get it for tests.
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    Hey guys, I started a thread specifically for template requests, so if you have some specifics you'd like to see included in the templates this time around, feel free to add to the list!
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  • silky_soft
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    We're currently planning on doing a North American character copy first when the PTS is updated with Thieves Guild, and later switching so characters from the European megaserver get equal amounts of testing time.

    Can you unplan that and do eu first please
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  • Mojmir
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    can someone enlighten me as to why they cant just make character copy for anyone? in UO we had 12-14 separate servers and test shard had character copy for anyone to bring over from those servers.
    Edited by Mojmir on January 25, 2016 1:27AM
  • Casdha
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    can someone enlighten me as to why they cant just make character copy for anyone? in UO we had 12-14 separate servers and test shard had character copy for anyone to bring over from those servers.

    Shared log in server but separate gaming servers. I have characters on NA and Characters on EU, should I get a total of 16 characters copied over? I really only have 8 between the two but I do have 16 slots.

    Also Character names can't be duplicated on a server and both servers have several names that are used by two different players. Depending on which server the character resides, two different people could own the same character name.
    Edited by Casdha on January 25, 2016 2:37AM
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  • Tomato
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    We're currently planning on doing a North American character copy first when the PTS is updated with Thieves Guild, and later switching so characters from the European megaserver get equal amounts of testing time.

    Can we actually get a date?
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    We'll let everyone know when the update will be on the PTS as soon as we can. :)
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  • americansteel
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    We'll let everyone know when the update will be on the PTS as soon as we can. :)

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    ETA is currently early February.
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  • americansteel
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    ETA is currently early February.

    thansk for the reply, but what is character copy?
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  • Casdha
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    ETA is currently early February.

    thansk for the reply, but what is character copy?

    They make a copy of your characters from the live server over to the PTS so that you can test with your own toons if you wish, rather than just being stuck with Templates.
    Edited by Casdha on January 25, 2016 2:38AM
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    Casdha wrote: »
    ETA is currently early February.

    thansk for the reply, but what is character copy?

    They make a copy of your characters from the live server over to the PTS so that you can test with your own toons if you wish, rather than just being stuck with Templates.

    Yeah, so you can go ahead and make a template, get the new gear for testing, put it in the bank, then collect it and equip it on your character copy to see how it would work when the update goes live.
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  • Cinbri
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    We don't need eu transfer first. First week is always unplayable coz bunch of bugs, while second week for eu is time when everything can be tested for real, instead of fighting bugs. Let na be guinea pig. >:)
    @ZOS_GinaBruno will we get pts date on next eso live?
    Edited by Cinbri on January 25, 2016 9:24AM
  • Desimator
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    A character copy is completely unnecessary in my opinion all they would need to do is set the templates up with all traits researched and add in a materials folder and leaving in all the items that were available to us on the last PTS then I can make the gear I normally use and switch in the new gear at will to test the pros and cons character copy problem solved.
    Unfortunately ZOS has a habit of having the first template characters be useless having about half the gear choice of the second testing phaze I think it's on purpose so that not as many ppl will play during this period so they can iron out some of the kinks and the fact the pts is not build for large numbers but thats just how things are done
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  • duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO
    kungmoo wrote: »
    DschiPeunt wrote: »
    I still don't understand, why they cannot copy the chars from both servers at the same time. Anyone can explain?

    for one, character names... there may be someone on EU with the same name as you... so would complicate things there
    And that's not easily fixed by just appending (US) or (EU) behind the name?
    Seriously, it's just a fr*gging test server.
  • Paulington
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    kungmoo wrote: »
    DschiPeunt wrote: »
    I still don't understand, why they cannot copy the chars from both servers at the same time. Anyone can explain?

    for one, character names... there may be someone on EU with the same name as you... so would complicate things there
    And that's not easily fixed by just appending (US) or (EU) behind the name?
    Seriously, it's just a fr*gging test server.

    This has been suggested multiple times and has yet to happen.
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    Paulington wrote: »
    kungmoo wrote: »
    DschiPeunt wrote: »
    I still don't understand, why they cannot copy the chars from both servers at the same time. Anyone can explain?

    for one, character names... there may be someone on EU with the same name as you... so would complicate things there
    And that's not easily fixed by just appending (US) or (EU) behind the name?
    Seriously, it's just a fr*gging test server.

    This has been suggested multiple times and has yet to happen.

    I don't think it would work. At least, it's not foolproof. Character names cannot include brackets or underscores. Character naming conventions state that you can have at most four(?) delimiters within a character name. If they were to append " EU" (or prepend "EU ") this may break the naming conventions for certain characters by introducing a fifth delimiter.
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