Upcoming siege changes in next major update

Cinbri

Talcyndl wrote: »

So @ZOS_BrianWheeler:

Now that you guys have announced the Thieves Guild DLC release date, any ETA on telling us what Eric plans on doing with Purge (and other abilities)?

Seems only in patchnotes.

WarLord2905

IMO this change will be good. Siege isnt used enough against players ATM but mainly used for knocking down walls. A well planned counter siege by a group of 6 - 8 players defending a fort can wipe most zergs, problem is that too many people prefer to jump into a zerg and battle through it one on one then complain about zerging when they get dropped. I personally don't think siege is used enough and this will change that. I have played in groups that have awesome strategy when it comes to seige defense and offense at its really fun, 6 man AD team wiping 24 Blueberries (DC) 6-7 times at Nickel Outpost = Good times and awesome AP LOL.

Dyride

These ham fisted changes are only going to slow down keep takes with an active resistance. Which causes the number of players to pile up since they follow the swords.

More spread objectives that matter is about the only thing that will cause the population to stop flocking to the most obvious 2-3 objectives.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler any word on making IC districts capturable?

Alorier

Well that's killed PvP for me then what new games are coming out to replace this

Talcyndl

Purge:
Reduced the amount of targets this ability and its morphs affect to a maximum of 6 targets, previously 20 targets.
Increased the radius of this ability and its morphs to 18 meters from 12 meters.
This ability and its morphs now only affect your group, instead of any friendly nearby ally.

You guys (or at least Wrobel) don't have a clue.

Does anyone think this will do anything to weaken the Blob groups? You might as well have saved yourselves the time of implementing all the siege changes.

Talcyndl

And almost as bad:

Steel Tornado (Whirlwind morph): Decreased the radius of this morph to 9 meters on all Ranks from 11/11.5/12/12.5 meters on Ranks I/II/III/IV. This morph now gains slightly more damage as it ranks up.

A tiny decrease in radius with a damage INCREASE. What possible justification is there to increase the damage on this skill?

ZOS_BrianWheeler

Capturable districts are something we are actively working on and hoping to get into a major patch soon (not Thieves guild obviously).

Glory

@ZOS_BrianWheeler I know this is the wrong thread (although it's been a wild ride!), but you're still going to implement the removal of campaign restrictions by faction soon right?

My EP/DC/AD characters all like to PvP, and I can't even home the EP on anything

Niaver

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Thank you for your response.

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Capturable districts are something we are actively working on and hoping to get into a major patch soon (not Thieves guild obviously).

So... We have to wait at least for Dark Brotherhood?

ZOS_BrianWheeler

@ebethke_ESO Those changes for campaigns with alliance restrictions being removed is in for Thieves Guild.

Glory

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@ebethke_ESO Those changes for campaigns with alliance restrictions being removed is in for Thieves Guild.

You da bomb

Cody

good, it will help deal with the blobs of lag.

Weberda

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@ebethke_ESO Those changes for campaigns with alliance restrictions being removed is in for Thieves Guild.

Why didn't this make it into the patch notes?

Sallington

Weberda wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@ebethke_ESO Those changes for campaigns with alliance restrictions being removed is in for Thieves Guild.

Why didn't this make it into the patch notes?

Because PvP always comes second

Third if you count the cash store I guess.

Weberda

I honestly think that they look at certain changes and say "well, we're not sure if this will work soooo let's not publicize it just in case....".

Enodoc

Weberda wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

ebethke_ESO Those changes for campaigns with alliance restrictions being removed is in for Thieves Guild.

Why didn't this make it into the patch notes?

Presumably it's not in the patch notes because it's not in this build of the PTS. This PTS is also missing "access to any alliance upon reaching Veteran Rank 1", which is another of the major features of this base game update.

Darlgon

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Thats a Gina question anyway.

Weberda wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

@ebethke_ESO Those changes for campaigns with alliance restrictions being removed is in for Thieves Guild.

Why didn't this make it into the patch notes?

ZOS_BrianWheeler

It didn't make it in the patch notes for PTS because plain and simple, I forgot to include it. Sorry about that gang but the feature is in there and will be patch noted for Live.

DEPRE5SED

themdogesbite wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Anyone who likes this idea doesnt like pvp. Sitting on a siege weapon left clicking hoping to grab a kill.

Boring.

this game was advertised as huge siege warfare.

It was also advertised to handle hundreds of players on the screen at once, it dosent.

Because "megaserver" it's worked wonders...

Dyride

Talcyndl wrote: »

And almost as bad:

Steel Tornado (Whirlwind morph): Decreased the radius of this morph to 9 meters on all Ranks from 11/11.5/12/12.5 meters on Ranks I/II/III/IV. This morph now gains slightly more damage as it ranks up.

A tiny decrease in radius with a damage INCREASE. What possible justification is there to increase the damage on this skill?

You realize this actually cuts the Sq. meter area covered by Steel Tornado in half?

Leandor

@ZOS_BrianWheeler
Sorry if this is a repeat question but I didn't find it, but what about purgeability of side effects of siege? That was the best part of your proposed changes..

olsborg

I wish siege wasnt purgeable post patch.

Darlgon

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

It didn't make it in the patch notes for PTS because plain and simple, I forgot to include it. Sorry about that gang but the feature is in there and will be patch noted for Live.

Its more fun to imagine Gina opening the door to your dungeon room and slapping you, with her legal sized yellow page notepad, asking, "Where is this?"

SirDopey

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

It didn't make it in the patch notes for PTS because plain and simple, I forgot to include it. Sorry about that gang but the feature is in there and will be patch noted for Live.

So, does this mean ZOS has no intention of making any changes on the PTS, given your statement implies there will be no new/updated notes before live????

Turelus

SirDopey wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

It didn't make it in the patch notes for PTS because plain and simple, I forgot to include it. Sorry about that gang but the feature is in there and will be patch noted for Live.

So, does this mean ZOS has no intention of making any changes on the PTS, given your statement implies there will be no new/updated notes before live????

I think that's twisting and added other meanings to his words.

If ZOS makes changes, they will still be in the final patch notes but modified, if they don't then sure they'd go in as they are.

ZOS_BrianWheeler

@SirDopey it means they weren't in the patch notes for PTS when we first did them, but the note will be in for Live. It does not mean we won't make any changes between PTS and Live.

AGrz5585

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

I know this topic is about seige changes, but you seem to be most vocal in here so this is my question.

Where are the updated v16 pvp sets? They're not in the pvp vendor. Are they just from rewards for the worthy? And could we know which sets got updated?

Thanks in advance

Preyfar

AGrz5585 wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

I know this topic is about seige changes, but you seem to be most vocal in here so this is my question.

Where are the updated v16 pvp sets? They're not in the pvp vendor. Are they just from rewards for the worthy? And could we know which sets got updated?

Thanks in advance

It depends on what they mean by "updated". The VR16 Affliction set went from about 2.9K disease damage to about 3.4K on PTS, so that could be what they mean. Still not really a desirable set since it's both Magicka and Stamina, but...

Talcyndl

Dyride wrote: »

You realize this actually cuts the Sq. meter area covered by Steel Tornado in half?

The power of squaring.

But the damage isn't done to the area of ground. It is done to individual enemy players. Those players if they fall within the radius, take full damage. The groups will still be able to reliably hit any player they run over with multiple steel tornadoes - now dealing more damage per hit. I think overall this ends up being a buff of steel tornado as it is used by Blobs against enemy players.

EdmundTowers

Welcome to elder sieges online. Siege weapons OP. I think a lot of people will complain but that should be fine since we all have access to seiges.