[Reddit] Matt Firor claims "dramatic" PvP lag fix incoming

skillastat

I actually love your signature with the quotes.

Shame... Shame... Shame... *ding ding*

Glaiceana

Kind of surprising how many people don't know about reddit here...
But yes thanks for linking this either way!
Edit: Just noticed the date

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Dont we have rules about thread necros?

HoloYoitsu

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Dont we have rules about thread necros?

Are you finding the content of this thread to be harmful to your troll amounts of white knighting?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Just saying there are rules against this kind of thing. You know the rules you agreed to when you joined the forum.

GRxKnight

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Just saying there are rules against this kind of thing. You know the rules you agreed to when you joined the forum.

Proof?

skillastat

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Just saying there are rules against this kind of thing. You know the rules you agreed to when you joined the forum.

Yeah, article 5, line B of the code of conduct.

You mean the rules everyone reads right?

Derra

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Just saying there are rules against this kind of thing. You know the rules you agreed to when you joined the forum.

Well necroing isn´t allowed but i think this topic still has relevance... However:

I feel this topic is gonna get closed as it´s now effectively bashing ZOS (by themselves because they don´t even meet their own expectations).

HoloYoitsu

Huh, I just noticed, this thread went just fine w/ Matt Firor's name in the title months ago, but my thread got one of these:

Moderator edit - post edited to remove dev name from title

Discussion of interviews, etc is fine - but please do not use dev names in thread titles.

What gives??

Wollust

"Dramatic performance improvement"


Hahahaha

Derra

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Huh, I just noticed, this thread went just fine w/ Matt Firor's name in the title months ago, but my thread got one of these:

Moderator edit - post edited to remove dev name from title

Discussion of interviews, etc is fine - but please do not use dev names in thread titles.

What gives??

Anything positive is fine (this might get edited now ). Neutral or negative content - eeeeh nope.

Kilandros

For a split second I allowed myself the slightest glimmer of hope--and then I saw the date.

This game is truly doomed. RIP ESO.

Sotha_Sil

I just want to say thanks for giving us rock solid proof that you failed.

Bashev

Kilandros wrote: »

For a split second I allowed myself the slightest glimmer of hope--and then I saw the date.

This game is truly doomed. RIP ESO.

Same feeling!

Elsonso

Interesting Necro...

"We are working on a fix now involving our physics engine, and we're confident that we can dramatically improve performance"

"Our focus currently is improving the server performance."

They have been releasing performance updates in the incremental patches and they released something in Thieves Guild, but they have also warned that none of these are "silver bullets". Not sure how that jives with the "dramatically improve performance" fix mentioned by Firor.

I am not sure if the "physics engine" fix mentioned by Firor has made it to Live, yet. Lambert has mentioned changes in ESO Live, the latest being how they handle lists of whatever they need lists for, which sounds like it could be physics engine, and before that they have mentioned changes in the particle system and other stuff. Yeah, it sounds like they are shooting blindly and hoping to hit something, but then I cannot see the shooter, or what they are shooting at, from my vantage point outside of the studio.

Onions, and all that. Explains why people are crying.

Also, people should refer to the last ESO Live where Lambert had his FPS and Latency comparison chart. These are numbers that span more people than contribute in the forum. Some forum users can use this to see where they stack up against a much larger population in terms of latency and fps. Keep in mind that the numbers are PC NA, and probably game wide, so numbers in Cyrodiil and on other servers might be different.

"64 Bit client is planned for the Q1 Update (i.e. the next big one). Mac users will see dramatic performance increase when we do this, as well as 64-but windows users."

The 64-bit client was delivered with the Q1 DLC. Mac is using exclusively. @KhajitFurTrader can say whether it was a dramatic performance increase as I do not run Mac. I am led to believe that this performance increase comes mainly from 64-bit upgrades to other systems, like the OpenGL graphics library.

I am not sure if Firor meant that Windows would see a dramatic increase in performance due to 64-bit or if he was just trying to add at the end that Windows was also getting 64-bit. Because I know how this 32-bit to 64-bit thing works, I do not expect a dramatic performance change on Windows. At best, I have always expected it to stay the same, with the possibility of a small increase due to larger memory allotments reducing hard drive access. On my SSD system, that will be a much smaller increase. I think Windows will get more of a boost, although still small, from dropping DX9 and optimizing DX11.

The most dramatic change that I was expecting for 64-bit, on all platforms, was an increase in bugs. Between audio bugs and the pink/purple textures, I think they more than delivered on that. Thankfully, I have not seen the texture problem in a long while now. Given how long it is taking to do the audio fixes, and how they are described by the developer who has been in here, I don't expect a complete fix any time soon. This is mostly because it does not sound like it is one problem, but several problems. Hopefully, they can start knocking them down soon.

"We are currently optimizing our DX11 code" and "we will be looking more closely at DX12 support"

Well, they have shown us the work they have been doing with DX11. I am not sure if they are done with optimization. No word on DX12.

NobleNerd

Unfortunately about the only thing I have seen since Thieve's Guild is more bugs.

The 64 bit client should have been labeled "beta" because it still has bugs, glitches and issues running!

Possibly when I hear from some of my guild mates that Cyrodiil performance and the gap closer lockdowns have changed I might come back and play more.

Alcast

I am not surprised but.....

wow...

NUMBER 1 PRIORITY..sure

God_flakes

3,2,1...Frozn makes his grand entrance to beseech us to stay positive and just give Zos more time!

KenaPKK

Baited by the title. Wishful thinking...

Cbdudek

Well, they have taken a step backwards since Thieves Guild. The lag, where it was once bearable, is now unbearable on Trueflame or Haderus. I have pretty much bailed on PVP in this game. I wonder if Matt is still working on this? I can only hope.

Muizer

Soulac wrote: »

Was happy until I realized this thread was opened back on November 2015.
Well done zos.

Date wise, April 1st would be fitting...........

PainfulFAFA

I saw this post and gave me a little hope but then i saw it was necro'ed... GG hope destroyed.

CtrlAltDlt

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

I laughed at thread title and when i opened thread and saw date my expectations was met.

Same haha

Lexxypwns

@HoloYoitsu

topkek as always

Asmael

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Sotha_Sil

Asmael wrote: »

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Let's say Jack is you. The other one is the lag. Or something.

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r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Teargrants wrote: »

ZOS_MattF 25 points 3 days ago
This [reducing the lag in Cyrodiil] is our #1 PvP-focused dev effort right now. As an active (but really terrible) PvP player, I too run into this problem far too often. It's a complicated one with lots of different factors joining together to degrade performance - i.e. it's not easy, which explains why we haven't addressed it yet. We are working on a fix now involving our physics engine, and we're confident that we can dramatically improve performance, but that's the kind of thing that can introduce new problems if not done properly, so we are being very careful and not rushing it. You should hear a lot more about this after the dust settles from Osrinium launch.

Link for those who want it.
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that's the kind of thing that can introduce new problems if not done properly

So, yeah. But there won't be any consequences at all anway. EU servers having major issues again btw.

Cinnamon_Spider

Just another broken promise in a long line of broken promises.

Where has @Teargrants been anyway? Did he move on to BDO/another game as well, or is he no long able to post on the forums?

Fruitdog

I hear he's moved on to Club Penguin.

Cinnamon_Spider

Fruitdog wrote: »

I hear he's moved on to Club Penguin.

All the best people have.