[Reddit] Matt Firor claims "dramatic" PvP lag fix incoming

Soulac

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

You think anyone can handle black desert graphics in fights as huge as in eso? Keep dreaming.

BDO has better optimization than ESO and has the benefit of being in beta for over a year in Korea, Japan and Russia to iron out any bugs. I played the Japanese client and had hardly any lag in North America.

I rather meant the performance (fps) than the lag, sorry wasn´t that clear about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUQCtVk6VE
If this is an old patch or something my apologies but I didn´t find any videos with a bit bigger fights and good performance.


I mean i need something between now and CU release anyway so I´ll give BDO a try at least.

Takllin

Soulac wrote: »

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

You think anyone can handle black desert graphics in fights as huge as in eso? Keep dreaming.

BDO has better optimization than ESO and has the benefit of being in beta for over a year in Korea, Japan and Russia to iron out any bugs. I played the Japanese client and had hardly any lag in North America.

I rather meant the performance (fps) than the lag, sorry wasn´t that clear about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUQCtVk6VE
If this is an old patch or something my apologies but I didn´t find any videos with a bit bigger fights and good performance.


I mean i need something between now and CU release anyway so I´ll give BDO a try at least.

That's almost equivalent to 1.6 lag...

Dreyloch

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

It's better to have some answers than nothing at all . See loading screens, took 3 months but they got it right... I really hope we will see an improvement, the PVP would be really better.

Actually they didn't. I'm still having load screen issues. I'll play for an hour doing world boss dailies in wrothgar and it'll be ok. Then all the sudden, I go to a teleport shrine and bam...loading screen for a minute or more. The shealthing weapon thing is still not fixed, I still get that as well. The quest givers for the world bosses are also still bugging out at the inn. Icon is there, but they're in the floor or something 1/2 the time.

What makes anyone think they are gonna fix these other issues right the first time? (or is it the 6th by now? I lost track)

Chesimac

all im saying is lololol theyre not ever going to fix it

caeliusstarbreaker

I still can't even fathom why these in depth responses to everything people have been clamoring for are not in their own official forums. That's like me saying, "well McDonalds employees... Our big managerial meeting to discuss the future of our franchise was held at Burger King the other day and let me say it was a glistening success.. Wait... You didn't know we were meeting over there? But I posted it in half the font size below the veggie burger option on the value meal on the picture menus"

Lava_Croft

Derra wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If they do not fix this stuff pre-BDO release then well RIP the game for good. And I am not confident they will

I feel like bdo shares a lot with archage in that regard. Insane expectations not backed up by the material actually available. Only looking at what´s shown i honestly have no idea why i would/should buy that game ._.

Much like Camelot Unchained. It's barely more than a tech demo but apparently that's enough.

FMonk

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If they do not fix this stuff pre-BDO release then well RIP the game for good. And I am not confident they will

I feel like bdo shares a lot with archage in that regard. Insane expectations not backed up by the material actually available. Only looking at what´s shown i honestly have no idea why i would/should buy that game ._.

Much like Camelot Unchained. It's barely more than a tech demo but apparently that's enough.

The exciting part about CU isn't the current tech alpha game play, or any screenshots/videos of the game, it's the track record of the devs in previous games, their visions for the way PvP will/should play in the game, and the fact that they're building a game specifically for the hardcore AvA community.

JamilaRaj

FMonk wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If they do not fix this stuff pre-BDO release then well RIP the game for good. And I am not confident they will

I feel like bdo shares a lot with archage in that regard. Insane expectations not backed up by the material actually available. Only looking at what´s shown i honestly have no idea why i would/should buy that game ._.

Much like Camelot Unchained. It's barely more than a tech demo but apparently that's enough.

The exciting part about CU isn't the current tech alpha game play, or any screenshots/videos of the game, it's the track record of the devs in previous games, their visions for the way PvP will/should play in the game, and the fact that they're building a game specifically for the hardcore AvA community.

The exciting about CU was the word "convenience" I spotted some time ago in one of Jacobs' articles on the front page. Having been trained by ESO, that kinda hit berserk button and made me...excited. I could not focus on the rest of the article, so I hope it was in different context and just poor choice of words.

EDIT: back on topic though. Matt Firor is, to put it mildly, not exactly the person they should have send to make some credible claims.

Jules

Soulac wrote: »

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

You think anyone can handle black desert graphics in fights as huge as in eso? Keep dreaming.

BDO has better optimization than ESO and has the benefit of being in beta for over a year in Korea, Japan and Russia to iron out any bugs. I played the Japanese client and had hardly any lag in North America.

I rather meant the performance (fps) than the lag, sorry wasn´t that clear about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUQCtVk6VE
If this is an old patch or something my apologies but I didn´t find any videos with a bit bigger fights and good performance.


I mean i need something between now and CU release anyway so I´ll give BDO a try at least.

Honestly, I really hope they get rid of that placement for guild, rank, name, whatever it is. When in large groups and especially in pvp that really muddies up the entire screen.

Soulac

Jules wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

You think anyone can handle black desert graphics in fights as huge as in eso? Keep dreaming.

BDO has better optimization than ESO and has the benefit of being in beta for over a year in Korea, Japan and Russia to iron out any bugs. I played the Japanese client and had hardly any lag in North America.

I rather meant the performance (fps) than the lag, sorry wasn´t that clear about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUQCtVk6VE
If this is an old patch or something my apologies but I didn´t find any videos with a bit bigger fights and good performance.


I mean i need something between now and CU release anyway so I´ll give BDO a try at least.

Honestly, I really hope they get rid of that placement for guild, rank, name, whatever it is. When in large groups and especially in pvp that really muddies up the entire screen.

Yap, that really annoyed me in the vids about BDO.. too much visible stuff no one needs. Special Effects everywhere and on top of that so much information like guilds etc. no one cares about. Hope you can disable it.
Anyway I´ll bet my money on CU since it has the highest chance to be a great pvp game, but will probably spend some weeks in BDO to kill waiting time.
Can imagine that this game is fun in smallscale, but you see how much smallscale happens in eso, so yeah get ready..

Raizin

Ishammael wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If they do not fix this stuff pre-BDO release then well RIP the game for good. And I am not confident they will

I feel like bdo shares a lot with archage in that regard. Insane expectations not backed up by the material actually available. Only looking at what´s shown i honestly have no idea why i would/should buy that game ._.

only similarity with archeage there might be the cash shop - WHICH WE DONT KNOW nothing about, just that they have removed some strong p2w items - that we know (i wld give u a source, but u wld just get redirected to main forum, its broken atm), but nothing else.

Other then that, it doesnt share anything with AA...

I just meant the general approach people have about the game: Being overly optimistic/enthusiastic bc they´re unhappy with their current game.

Like i said by the information openly available (not promises or sth else) i have no idea what about that game would be interesting.

oh yea, hype is real ... like with every new game .... wait for CU that will be the true HYPE train.

I watched a bunch of videos about BDO. I actually thought it looked like crap.

Also, I read the comments Teargrants posted just about when they had posted them. I'll believe it when I see it.

Etaniel wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If they do not fix this stuff pre-BDO release then well RIP the game for good. And I am not confident they will

I feel like bdo shares a lot with archage in that regard. Insane expectations not backed up by the material actually available. Only looking at what´s shown i honestly have no idea why i would/should buy that game ._.

only similarity with archeage there might be the cash shop - WHICH WE DONT KNOW nothing about, just that they have removed some strong p2w items - that we know (i wld give u a source, but u wld just get redirected to main forum, its broken atm), but nothing else.

Other then that, it doesnt share anything with AA...

I just meant the general approach people have about the game: Being overly optimistic/enthusiastic bc they´re unhappy with their current game.

Like i said by the information openly available (not promises or sth else) i have no idea what about that game would be interesting.

oh yea, hype is real ... like with every new game .... wait for CU that will be the true HYPE train.

I watched a bunch of videos about BDO. I actually thought it looked like crap.

Same. None of the videos for that game came close to hook me

i m hooked because i have actualy played the game. i remember when i saw it for the first time (videos and stuff) i wasnt impressed at all either - but i got a chance to try it out, so i did....well and i m in.

Raizin

Soulac wrote: »

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

You think anyone can handle black desert graphics in fights as huge as in eso? Keep dreaming.

BDO has better optimization than ESO and has the benefit of being in beta for over a year in Korea, Japan and Russia to iron out any bugs. I played the Japanese client and had hardly any lag in North America.

I rather meant the performance (fps) than the lag, sorry wasn´t that clear about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUQCtVk6VE
If this is an old patch or something my apologies but I didn´t find any videos with a bit bigger fights and good performance.


I mean i need something between now and CU release anyway so I´ll give BDO a try at least.

This is RUssian version where gamenet facked it up greatly and Daum knows this. They are actualy discussing this with ppl at BDO forum and doing some tweeks (Daum EU) how to avoid this performance (its all about channels/servers/megaservers and all that shjt - u just have to read it up for yourself)... I truly believe it wont look like this vid u posted, but more like one of steparus PvP vids u have seen (if u have not, u can check it out :P on youtube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMnlQLZ8jG0 (this is how pvp looks like in larger scale actualy - ppl with brain wont just stack on one channel like in the russian video)... PvP in a fashion of 10v40 is very possible and fun

Soulac wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

You think anyone can handle black desert graphics in fights as huge as in eso? Keep dreaming.

BDO has better optimization than ESO and has the benefit of being in beta for over a year in Korea, Japan and Russia to iron out any bugs. I played the Japanese client and had hardly any lag in North America.

I rather meant the performance (fps) than the lag, sorry wasn´t that clear about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUQCtVk6VE
If this is an old patch or something my apologies but I didn´t find any videos with a bit bigger fights and good performance.


I mean i need something between now and CU release anyway so I´ll give BDO a try at least.

Honestly, I really hope they get rid of that placement for guild, rank, name, whatever it is. When in large groups and especially in pvp that really muddies up the entire screen.

Yap, that really annoyed me in the vids about BDO.. too much visible stuff no one needs. Special Effects everywhere and on top of that so much information like guilds etc. no one cares about. Hope you can disable it.
Anyway I´ll bet my money on CU since it has the highest chance to be a great pvp game, but will probably spend some weeks in BDO to kill waiting time.
Can imagine that this game is fun in smallscale, but you see how much smallscale happens in eso, so yeah get ready..

U can dissable some of the things u talk about, like the guild names,npc names,raid grp name,family name,etc.

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If they do not fix this stuff pre-BDO release then well RIP the game for good. And I am not confident they will

I feel like bdo shares a lot with archage in that regard. Insane expectations not backed up by the material actually available. Only looking at what´s shown i honestly have no idea why i would/should buy that game ._.

Much like Camelot Unchained. It's barely more than a tech demo but apparently that's enough.

Uhm, nope... BDO was released 22th april of 2014 .. (thats like 2 weeks after eso), they have improved and expanded the game since then - alot ..so its nowhere near "tech demo" as u say ... ofc diff regions, got diff versions of the game, but its beside the point that the game is not "new" which is the reason why daum can release it so fast. The game is done, they just need to translate it and do voice over and figure out what type of server will eu have (channels,etc.)

Xsorus

I'm in CU alpha, its coming a long just fine...and is far more then a tech demo.

It also has the advantage of not being another Korean MMO..i mean seriously folks...How have all the other Korean MMOs not taught you how bad they generally are?

Wollust

"could introduce more problems"

Is there even anything worse than the current situation?
hm.. Maybe server crashes?
Oh wait, we got those already.

Huckdabuck

As far as BDO goes.....if I wanted to play an MMO version of Street Fighter....I'd just rather play Street Fighter.

Jules

Soulac wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

You think anyone can handle black desert graphics in fights as huge as in eso? Keep dreaming.

BDO has better optimization than ESO and has the benefit of being in beta for over a year in Korea, Japan and Russia to iron out any bugs. I played the Japanese client and had hardly any lag in North America.

I rather meant the performance (fps) than the lag, sorry wasn´t that clear about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhUQCtVk6VE
If this is an old patch or something my apologies but I didn´t find any videos with a bit bigger fights and good performance.


I mean i need something between now and CU release anyway so I´ll give BDO a try at least.

Honestly, I really hope they get rid of that placement for guild, rank, name, whatever it is. When in large groups and especially in pvp that really muddies up the entire screen.

Yap, that really annoyed me in the vids about BDO.. too much visible stuff no one needs. Special Effects everywhere and on top of that so much information like guilds etc. no one cares about. Hope you can disable it.
Anyway I´ll bet my money on CU since it has the highest chance to be a great pvp game, but will probably spend some weeks in BDO to kill waiting time.
Can imagine that this game is fun in smallscale, but you see how much smallscale happens in eso, so yeah get ready..

Yeah I mean I'll definitely be playing. Got it pre-ordered already, I think it shows a lot of promise. But CU when it comes along as well.

MormondPayne_EP

I'm going to go out on a limb here and call bullshut on this...

I'm amazed at how many people on this forum, love the taste of bullshut...

You know what they say? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!
I just flat out do not believe anything the dev's say anymore.

If things don't change soon, I'm out of here, my playing time is severely down at the moment due to some of the great games that have been coming out lately and this will only continue to decrease because I, among many others, have had enough of this crap.

frozywozy

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

TY OP for post/link.

Love the logic however, the forums only constitute a very small minority of the playerbase, most ingame do not have a clue of what is happening, and then they go and post something like this on Reddit where a arguably even smaller portion of playerbase are gonna go check.

*shakes of head*

But hope finally stuff actually starts happening now.

There may be less active TESO players on Reddit but Reddit itself is the biggest, most valuable and promising place to post interesting changes like that from a business and marketing point.

Alucardo wrote: »

Thanks for the info. You're right, I never saw this. I don't know what a "reddit" is, but that information belongs on the official ESO forums. I didn't create an account just to read salty comments, I wanted to see updates from the staff at ZOS. Seems now I have to sign up to some BS third-party website. Wtf.

If you don't know what Reddit is, I would be embarrassed at this point, no offense.

Teargrants

The point is, the devs should post major announcements like this on ALL forms of social media that they use to communicate with their player base. How hard is it, a few minutes of copy/pasta? Just have the intern do it - go copy all the relevant questions & dev answers from the AUA and make a sticky thread in General Discussion/Alliance War.

SHADOW2KK

frozywozy wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

TY OP for post/link.

Love the logic however, the forums only constitute a very small minority of the playerbase, most ingame do not have a clue of what is happening, and then they go and post something like this on Reddit where a arguably even smaller portion of playerbase are gonna go check.

*shakes of head*

But hope finally stuff actually starts happening now.

There may be less active TESO players on Reddit but Reddit itself is the biggest, most valuable and promising place to post interesting changes like that from a business and marketing point.

Alucardo wrote: »

Thanks for the info. You're right, I never saw this. I don't know what a "reddit" is, but that information belongs on the official ESO forums. I didn't create an account just to read salty comments, I wanted to see updates from the staff at ZOS. Seems now I have to sign up to some BS third-party website. Wtf.

If you don't know what Reddit is, I would be embarrassed at this point, no offense.

True, but regardless of Reddit, all intel regarding the game should be on these forums first, then trickled down to Reddit and everything else, IMO.

Reddit deals with a lot, ESO forums deals with the game, intel should be here first.

frozywozy

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

TY OP for post/link.

Love the logic however, the forums only constitute a very small minority of the playerbase, most ingame do not have a clue of what is happening, and then they go and post something like this on Reddit where a arguably even smaller portion of playerbase are gonna go check.

*shakes of head*

But hope finally stuff actually starts happening now.

There may be less active TESO players on Reddit but Reddit itself is the biggest, most valuable and promising place to post interesting changes like that from a business and marketing point.

Alucardo wrote: »

Thanks for the info. You're right, I never saw this. I don't know what a "reddit" is, but that information belongs on the official ESO forums. I didn't create an account just to read salty comments, I wanted to see updates from the staff at ZOS. Seems now I have to sign up to some BS third-party website. Wtf.

If you don't know what Reddit is, I would be embarrassed at this point, no offense.

True, but regardless of Reddit, all intel regarding the game should be on these forums first, then trickled down to Reddit and everything else, IMO.

Reddit deals with a lot, ESO forums deals with the game, intel should be here first.

I was just about to edit my post and add that to it. I totally agree!

SHADOW2KK

frozywozy wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

TY OP for post/link.

Love the logic however, the forums only constitute a very small minority of the playerbase, most ingame do not have a clue of what is happening, and then they go and post something like this on Reddit where a arguably even smaller portion of playerbase are gonna go check.

*shakes of head*

But hope finally stuff actually starts happening now.

There may be less active TESO players on Reddit but Reddit itself is the biggest, most valuable and promising place to post interesting changes like that from a business and marketing point.

Alucardo wrote: »

Thanks for the info. You're right, I never saw this. I don't know what a "reddit" is, but that information belongs on the official ESO forums. I didn't create an account just to read salty comments, I wanted to see updates from the staff at ZOS. Seems now I have to sign up to some BS third-party website. Wtf.

If you don't know what Reddit is, I would be embarrassed at this point, no offense.

True, but regardless of Reddit, all intel regarding the game should be on these forums first, then trickled down to Reddit and everything else, IMO.

Reddit deals with a lot, ESO forums deals with the game, intel should be here first.

I was just about to edit my post and add that to it. I totally agree!

Hehe no worries matey, saved ye a job.

Karamis_Vimardon

Any improvement would be great, but not to fussed as once Star Citizen PU is live i'm out of ESO for good.

And yes, u can haz my stuffz.

azoriangaming

Etaniel wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Raizin wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If they do not fix this stuff pre-BDO release then well RIP the game for good. And I am not confident they will

I feel like bdo shares a lot with archage in that regard. Insane expectations not backed up by the material actually available. Only looking at what´s shown i honestly have no idea why i would/should buy that game ._.

only similarity with archeage there might be the cash shop - WHICH WE DONT KNOW nothing about, just that they have removed some strong p2w items - that we know (i wld give u a source, but u wld just get redirected to main forum, its broken atm), but nothing else.

Other then that, it doesnt share anything with AA...

I just meant the general approach people have about the game: Being overly optimistic/enthusiastic bc they´re unhappy with their current game.

Like i said by the information openly available (not promises or sth else) i have no idea what about that game would be interesting.

oh yea, hype is real ... like with every new game .... wait for CU that will be the true HYPE train.

I watched a bunch of videos about BDO. I actually thought it looked like crap.

Same. None of the videos for that game came close to hook me

I was in alpha for eu tests and it's great imo but if you don't like grinding to be the best of the best you won't like this game as there is so much to level up in bdo.

Mumyo

frozywozy wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

TY OP for post/link.

Love the logic however, the forums only constitute a very small minority of the playerbase, most ingame do not have a clue of what is happening, and then they go and post something like this on Reddit where a arguably even smaller portion of playerbase are gonna go check.

*shakes of head*

But hope finally stuff actually starts happening now.

There may be less active TESO players on Reddit but Reddit itself is the biggest, most valuable and promising place to post interesting changes like that from a business and marketing point.

Alucardo wrote: »

Thanks for the info. You're right, I never saw this. I don't know what a "reddit" is, but that information belongs on the official ESO forums. I didn't create an account just to read salty comments, I wanted to see updates from the staff at ZOS. Seems now I have to sign up to some BS third-party website. Wtf.

If you don't know what Reddit is, I would be embarrassed at this point, no offense.

True, but regardless of Reddit, all intel regarding the game should be on these forums first, then trickled down to Reddit and everything else, IMO.

Reddit deals with a lot, ESO forums deals with the game, intel should be here first.

I was just about to edit my post and add that to it. I totally agree!

Community manager anywhere?

Derra

babanovac wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

More empty promises... well atleast they are sticking through thier business model of lie through thier teeth and the phrase we all know and love "We are working on it" pffft lol yeah right. If they spent half as much time working on it as they do saying they are working on it then this game may have had a hope.. CU beta and im outs here

DK SCRUB OUT

I'm just gonna say it.

CU looks terrible.

No hope for PVPers in the next 2-3 years...

I'm also following Crowfall because they plan to implement collision detection in PvP, but both CU and Crowfall seem to be way below AAA standards. I'm not getting my hopes up for any of them.

If you´re looking for pvp in mmos you can´t look for AAA+ in the same game. Huge amounts of cash are not generated by pvp as pvp is not casual friendly and can not be made to be unless you´ve got a huge playerbase (and working ranking systems).

Docmandu

Cinbri wrote: »

I really waiting 64 bit client. Hope it will increase perfomance a little bit.

Won't be a magic bullet... moving 64 bits = slower than moving 32 bits

It will help with keeping more art / assets in-memory and thus reduce disk IO, but it doesn't make code miraculously faster.

Docmandu

Think one of the big issues is that ZOS is pretty big.. and Team A who designs effects, skills and graphics, doesn't think about performance stats that the PvP team has to think about.

Probably something that will continuously need adjusting / fixing after the facts... like filling a bucket with a hole in it. I pity the PvP team...

Hopefully they have some internal procedures to set a performance budget on skills / effects.. but doubt there's much testing / automation @ ZOS.. seeing how often things are broken that can so easily be tested in CI.

altemriel

Teargrants wrote: »

ZOS_MattF 25 points 3 days ago
This [reducing the lag in Cyrodiil] is our #1 PvP-focused dev effort right now. As an active (but really terrible) PvP player, I too run into this problem far too often. It's a complicated one with lots of different factors joining together to degrade performance - i.e. it's not easy, which explains why we haven't addressed it yet. We are working on a fix now involving our physics engine, and we're confident that we can dramatically improve performance, but that's the kind of thing that can introduce new problems if not done properly, so we are being very careful and not rushing it. You should hear a lot more about this after the dust settles from Osrinium launch.

Link for those who want it.

Good thing I decided to sift through random stuff on Reddit, or I'd never have seen this, I'm gona go out on a crazy limb and guess most ppl haven't seen this either. What with Reddit not being an official ESO forum and all...

Edit:

ZOS_MattF 15 points 3 days ago
64 Bit client is planned for the Q1 Update (i.e. the next big one). Mac users will see dramatic performance increase when we do this, as well as 64-but windows users. My main gaming machine is Windows, but I'm on the road enough with my Macbook Pro 13 retina that I definitely know what you are talking about.

Link

Edit 2:
Annnnd more.

ZOS_RichLambert 7 points 3 days ago
Improving the PvP experience is definitely a priority. Our focus currently is improving the server performance. We're also working on some new things to spend AP on as well as adding some new things to Cyrodiil.

Edit 3:
Why don't they just post this stuff on the forums?

ZOS_JaredCarr 7 points 3 days ago
We are currently optimizing our DX11 code, and working on other graphics optimizations that we hope to have wrapped up early 2016. Once that work is complete we will be looking more closely at DX12 support, but I can't make any promises at this stage.

wow!! awesome!!!

they should definitelly post it also to this forum!!! that would make many complainers at least hoping, if not happy!

altemriel

Is it only me who feels like that, or did the devs somehow "wake up" the last weeks?

- devs more posting on this forum
- more focused on fixing



maybe they got a wake-up call from the managers !


good so!!

ESO still can be saved and improved!! the player base is still alive!!!