[Reddit] Matt Firor claims "dramatic" PvP lag fix incoming

Jitterbug

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

More empty promises... well atleast they are sticking through thier business model of lie through thier teeth and the phrase we all know and love "We are working on it" pffft lol yeah right. If they spent half as much time working on it as they do saying they are working on it then this game may have had a hope.. CU beta and im outs here

DK SCRUB OUT

I'm just gonna say it.

CU looks terrible.

Cameltoe Underwear?

Xsorus

Cu is absolutely amazing so far based on the mechanics they are going with; if they managed to do at least 50% of that game right it will revolutionize pvp in MMOs; seriously you watch.. Within a year of cu coming out most of the future mmo games will be trying to steal mechanics and gameplay ideas from it.

Raizin

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Xsorus wrote: »

Cu is absolutely amazing so far based on the mechanics they are going with; if they managed to do at least 50% of that game right it will revolutionize pvp in MMOs; seriously you watch.. Within a year of cu coming out most of the future mmo games will be trying to steal mechanics and gameplay ideas from it.

i know what u talk about..but they r trying to do maybe too much..we shall see how that will play out

altemriel

Raizin wrote: »

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Xsorus wrote: »

Cu is absolutely amazing so far based on the mechanics they are going with; if they managed to do at least 50% of that game right it will revolutionize pvp in MMOs; seriously you watch.. Within a year of cu coming out most of the future mmo games will be trying to steal mechanics and gameplay ideas from it.

i know what u talk about..but they r trying to do maybe too much..we shall see how that will play out

I am totally convinced that they are going to surprise us all guys!!!

shebali

People come on. Do you think these fixes are in the right direction when the game use to run perfectly fine before the bad lighting patch. Also, the game is fine in the non vet even with AoE. The team leads and PM's have not done a good job in finding what changes were root cause of this lag. The changes he speaks of should have little to do with what cause the problem. Seems like they are just changing things in which they should not change. Find the root cause, start from there.

The game gets worse and worse. Maybe in time it will start to get better.

Manoekin

Xsorus wrote: »

Cu is absolutely amazing so far based on the mechanics they are going with; if they managed to do at least 50% of that game right it will revolutionize pvp in MMOs; seriously you watch.. Within a year of cu coming out most of the future mmo games will be trying to steal mechanics and gameplay ideas from it.

That's generally how things work, CU not being an outlier there. I hear great things I'm just waiting to see them is all.

frozywozy

altemriel wrote: »

Is it only me who feels like that, or did the devs somehow "wake up" the last weeks?

- devs more posting on this forum
- more focused on fixing



maybe they got a wake-up call from the managers !


good so!!

ESO still can be saved and improved!! the player base is still alive!!!

*cough* ESO unofficial podcasts *cough*

Soulac

Manoekin wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Cu is absolutely amazing so far based on the mechanics they are going with; if they managed to do at least 50% of that game right it will revolutionize pvp in MMOs; seriously you watch.. Within a year of cu coming out most of the future mmo games will be trying to steal mechanics and gameplay ideas from it.

That's generally how things work, CU not being an outlier there. I hear great things I'm just waiting to see them is all.

Alpha is playable but with the lack of classes and real (or finished) animations not enjoyable.
Not long until Beta tho..

Docmandu

Xsorus wrote: »

I'm in CU alpha, its coming a long just fine...and is far more then a tech demo.

It also has the advantage of not being another Korean MMO..i mean seriously folks...How have all the other Korean MMOs not taught you how bad they generally are?

You must be in another IT / Alpha than I am... or you drank too much of the kool-aid already.. at this point, it's impossible to tell if the game will be decent.. it might be or it might suck big time... time will tell...

Manoekin

Soulac wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Cu is absolutely amazing so far based on the mechanics they are going with; if they managed to do at least 50% of that game right it will revolutionize pvp in MMOs; seriously you watch.. Within a year of cu coming out most of the future mmo games will be trying to steal mechanics and gameplay ideas from it.

That's generally how things work, CU not being an outlier there. I hear great things I'm just waiting to see them is all.

Alpha is playable but with the lack of classes and real (or finished) animations not enjoyable.
Not long until Beta tho..

Yeah. I'm not hating on it or anything, just saying it's not far enough in development to get hyped up about it this much. I mean people have been talking about it since last year it seems like.

Earthewen

Here are some things to consider about MMOs for developers that just never seem to be considered....

1) What you THINK the players will do in response to your changes never really is what ACTUALLY happens. For example, champion points were supposed to make things better. Instead, it created these monster, never-die, live-forever toons that can solo everyone and everything (that's just one example)

I know they THINK (perhaps) that opening up the towns for domination will help the pvp zergs but honestly, what you think may NEVER happen. Now the folks that need to run over 40+ deep groups to achieve anything will just have new objectives to roll over on the map.

I mean, do they actually get into the game at all and watch what's going on? I saw a DC group in Azuras last night that was no less than 50 members in it. All at one keep! Our group (EP) had only 12 in it and I think I saw about 6-8 EP pugs. I honestly think I saw around 70 DC there to be totally honest.

It isn't the game that is the problem.....it's the players and their willingness to just mindlessly follow the zerg no matter what; folks that won't come out to play until they have overwhelming numbers.

Can you really say that you are a great player if it takes THAT many of you to turn the map? I challenge you to see if you can actually do it without a zerg at your back. THEN come back and tell us how great of a player you really are.

kevlarto_ESO

I hope some these things work at some point in cyrodiil, I am following CU, but being an mmo player for many years and being in many alphas and betas over the years, CU is going to be a tough sell for a lot of people, and I can see many hurdles that game will have in it's future good thing Mark Jacobs knows he has a niche game, I like his attitude about the game.

I figure by the time CU launches I will know where I stand with ESO, if CU did not have three faction warfare I would not be interested in it at all. I see no other mmo on the horizon I have any interest in.

MisterBigglesworth

• Physics engine fix
• 64-bit client
• Optimized DX11

#neverforget

hammayolettuce

MisterBigglesworth wrote: »

• Physics engine fix
• 64-bit client
• Optimized DX11

#neverforget

All that but cant remove aoe caps .. adjust skills properly, fix magicka DKs, etc, etc, etc,

rendolpheb16_ESO

After a 3 month break I came back on the forum and I just remember why I left...

Armitas

The thing I worry about is that there isn't just fps lag right now, there is latency at the same time.

Robbmrp

Hopefully what ever they do it fixes the PVP lag. I don't care if they remove AOE caps so that it hits anyone within a certain radius, or have to drop visual effects by 50% or optimizing their game. It would really be nice if we could have a workable PVP experience with 0 lag. To go from full health to dead in 1 second with 5+ registered hits yet seeing none of them is a total joke.....

themdogesbite

PvP lagg will never get fixed. 2 years and never had any improvment in performance should say it all.

Raizin

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP lagg will never get fixed. 2 years and never had any improvment in performance should say it all.

= no real reason to play, only as a poor excuse for "pvp" till the time of other games is here (i honestly get goin only cuz of the guild, i wld never stick this long, if i didnt have the guild like u and others - which is kinda sad)

Soulac

Day for day I lose more motivation to log on the next day.
I love playing with my guild and participate in PvP, but the lag and major bugs makes it impossible.
I didn't had any fight without lag or game-breaking bugs since a very long time.
The time you got a higher ping than usual is multiple times higher than the time you got a "normal" ping.
"Normal" since I live kinda close to the server and still got 90 ping on average. That's not acceptable.

Since bdo doesn't seem any better performance wise and certainly won't be better combat wise, I will have to stick with eso.
It's sad.
Most games improve over time, eso gets worse.
Next year we play without animations and a cap of 60..

Lucky28

Teargrants wrote: »

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Huckdabuck wrote: »

"i.e. it's not easy, which explains why we haven't addressed it yet."

So we were all correct to assume that they weren't even looking into it since he so clearly states that in the quote above.......they had not addressed it yet????? I mean almost a year and a half later and they are just now getting into trying to figure out that it wasn't the deer. Poor bambi was sacrificed for nothing! GG ZOS GG.

That is not what he means. What he means is that they have been putting a huge effort into fixing it, but it requires a change to a major game subsystem (the physics engine). They have made that change, which likely took an enormous amount of time and effort. But you don't throw a change like that in willy-nilly. What if it fixes lag, but now people can walk through walls? Or it fixes lag but melee damage no longer registers? They cannot just fix lag. They have to fix lag without breaking everything else. And until they are sure it does not break everything else, it does not go in.

I would take either of those over the lag we currently have.

you say that now. but your tune would change when you get ganked by 50 nightblades while trying to grab a kill enemy nightblades quest off the bounty board.

Knootewoot

Hang on guys. Logging in just now to try PvP. I am late from work so I have to play prime time. Will it be playable? Yesterday it was not.

Wish me luck guys....................

_Chaos

Knootewoot wrote: »

Hang on guys. Logging in just now to try PvP. I am late from work so I have to play prime time. Will it be playable? Yesterday it was not.

Wish me luck guys....................

This time of day it should be good, give it 7 more hours (8pm EST/Prime Time)

Armitas

Soulac wrote: »

Day for day I lose more motivation to log on the next day.
I love playing with my guild and participate in PvP, but the lag and major bugs makes it impossible.
I didn't had any fight without lag or game-breaking bugs since a very long time.
The time you got a higher ping than usual is multiple times higher than the time you got a "normal" ping.
"Normal" since I live kinda close to the server and still got 90 ping on average. That's not acceptable.

That is where I am at now. I only log in when I know my guild is on and it isn't prime time. IMO game is unplayable at the moment. You have to have a secondary reason to want to pvp right now because the game, in this state, is no longer a strong enough reason to play on its own. I have to play other games part-time to get me through this lag and broken class. Its been a struggle to play this game since 1.5 and since then they have only managed to make it more of a struggle.

NobleNerd

Mumyo wrote: »

Lag decrease was their #1 pvp effort since release and it got worse, i go print those words out and make my ass eat it.....

A lot of it can be translated into: "We really have no clue how to fix the issue"

The more I play this MMO and the more I see how the team reacts to the community, the more I come to understand that they have limited resources to know how to and able to fix the game.

I have come to firmly believe ZOS and Bethesda did not hire actual MMO developers with experience in their field to make and maintain this game.

That said, I do believe that the core group of their team is passionate about making the game a great experience for many. Yes, they are a snail's pace slow at fixing anything and lets hope we see major changes before the end of the year or I believe we will see more leaving to play other games.

Stikato

Keep trying to pvp with the best intentions..

End up in lag-fights of zoom with invulnerable zergs. Trying to fight on the edges of the battlefield leads to multiple NBs spamming ambush. No time for vMA. Rest of Orsinium is face-roll easy.

It has been the same thing for weeks now.

Oh well, GTA V on sale today. Break time.

HoloYoitsu

Necroposting but, WOW. Just saw those quotes from Matt and Rich about the x64 client for the first time, and now look at where we actually are what, 5 months down the road?

Soulac

Was happy until I realized this thread was opened back on November 2015.
Well done zos.

AbraXuSeXile

I laughed at thread title and when i opened thread and saw date my expectations was met.

_Chaos

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Thoughts? Comments?
How do you feel about the progress (or lack-thereof) with regards to Cyrodiil Performance?