Will you be playing ESO now Fallout is here?

Scyantific

Rosveen wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Played Fallout 4 as soon as it was unlocked.

UGH. I fear for the future of TES 6.

ZOS... please do not use Fallout 4 for UI inspiration. Just to be safe, you should destroy all copies of the game that employees might have and institute full body searches upon entry to the building to avoid contamination.

Bethesda hasn't made a good UI since Morrowind, so this comes as no surprise. TES VI can't possibly have worse UI than Skyrim.

Don't tempt them.

Hopefully the next UI is just a command line. For consoles too.

Danikat

I've never really understood this fascination with post-apocalyptic fiction, so Fallout games have never appealed to me. I don't get why so many people seem excited at the idea of a zombie apocalypse either.

So I'm quite happy to leave my husband playing Fallout on the PS4 while I get free reign over the PC (and continue to deny that I ever had any preference over which format he went for).

Oh, I do however feel we should insist on a free dog in TES 6. It's unfair that Fallout fans get dogs and we don't.

ZigaZuzek

I will do a split, because I don't want to set the world on fire.

danno8

Single Player games have certainly lost there charm for me in the last 5 years or so. I have about 3 that I started several years ago and never actually completed because it gets boring after a while. Only thing I miss are the gorgeous visuals that come with the non-mmo engine/demands.

As such, I can wait. They always go on sale.

I similarly have a line-up of books to read too. Not enough time to read them all. Maybe if I don't sleep...

Egonieser

Don't like single player games, no matter how good the story is. It lacks the one thing i love the most - other people around you.
They could make the most innovative super duper uber single player game that is best in the universe for now and ever, i still wouldn't play it simply cause it's single player. My preference and nothing will change it, nothing ever has.

Marrtha

Eh who cares

Ffastyl

Scyantific wrote: »

E: This is what happens when you develop for console casuals. They're going to ditch the game once the next new and shiny call of duty/halo comes out.

The exact type of PC supremacy that brought about #PCMasterRace. If you've played on console you know how wrong you are. I'll leave here before I start a flame war. #PCMustardRace

Resipsa131

I'm going to be splitting time between Legacy of the Void and ESO

UltimaJoe777

Ffastyl wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

E: This is what happens when you develop for console casuals. They're going to ditch the game once the next new and shiny call of duty/halo comes out.

The exact type of PC supremacy that brought about #PCMasterRace. If you've played on console you know how wrong you are. I'll leave here before I start a flame war. #PCMustardRace

A flame war would actually only prove how ignorant the whole "PC Master Race" bit is. Neither PC nor Console is superior or inferior to the other. That's all there is to it.

Elsonso

Rosveen wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Played Fallout 4 as soon as it was unlocked.

UGH. I fear for the future of TES 6.

ZOS... please do not use Fallout 4 for UI inspiration. Just to be safe, you should destroy all copies of the game that employees might have and institute full body searches upon entry to the building to avoid contamination.

Bethesda hasn't made a good UI since Morrowind, so this comes as no surprise. TES VI can't possibly have worse UI than Skyrim.

Well, Fallout 4 has a UI that actually requires me to think about what I am doing. WSAD are all familiar, but they have an inconsistent mouse vs keyboard layout for the UI. It is possible to click on things, but I found that there were places the mouse could not intuitively complete the action. I found that I was swapping between the keyboard and mouse a lot. The character face generation is excellent, not so much for the rest of the body, but the UI requires attention or you will lose changes you were working on. They use an expanding "tiled" menu system for the workbench that takes some getting used to. I am not certain if I like how they did containers. The keyboard layout for interacting with NPCs is a new concept for Bethesda and, coupled with the character voice, takes some getting used to.

All opinion, but I prefer the Skyrim UI. Both have quirks and inconsistencies and are easy to get messed up in. Mods will probably be able to fix it.

Specifically, I would prefer that ZOS not inherit the NPC interaction layout and the way they do containers.

DenMoria

Egonieser wrote: »

Don't like single player games, no matter how good the story is. It lacks the one thing i love the most - other people around you.
They could make the most innovative super duper uber single player game that is best in the universe for now and ever, i still wouldn't play it simply cause it's single player. My preference and nothing will change it, nothing ever has.

Just the opposite. Can't stand MMO's of any kind. Bunch of competitive jack***** that are just insulting, misogynistic, sociopathic and horrible. I can't stand the "social" aspect, since, in real life, I would NEVER socialize with any of those idiots.

On the other hand, ESO is a little bit different, generally speaking. Sure, we have our share of jerks, but, on the whole, most of the people I've run in to seem to be a bit less jerky. Maybe it's the atmosphere of an ES game? Maybe it's the way the game is set-up or maybe it's just because, in general, I truly do believe that the majority of players have had some sort of exposure to TES's long history and understand that it's "Play as you want", even when that is sometimes difficult.

I've found most people are pretty understanding and more than willing to help out and make useful suggestions for your build and playstyle so that you can benefit the group rather than treating you like a pariah and just being insulting. Doesn't mean they won't call you when you're doing something stupid though. And I appreciate that. Really I do. I do stupid things all the time!

JMHO though.

ladyonthemoon

I won't buy Fallout 4.

UltimaJoe777

DenMoria wrote: »

On the other hand, ESO is a little bit different, generally speaking. Sure, we have our share of jerks, but, on the whole, most of the people I've run in to seem to be a bit less jerky. Maybe it's the atmosphere of an ES game? Maybe it's the way the game is set-up or maybe it's just because, in general, I truly do believe that the majority of players have had some sort of exposure to TES's long history and understand that it's "Play as you want", even when that is sometimes difficult.

I agree. Been through quite a few MMOs with shoddy playerbases that easily ruin the experience. This 1 isn't angelic, but it isn't the worst I've seen. Almost... lol

kevlarto_ESO

I will pick it up when it goes on sale, like I do all my single player games these days, no hurry it will be around for a long time.

Osteos

Because of nagging family members complaining about me buying games so close to Christmas blah blah. I have to wait for Fallout 4

TequilaFire

Will be playing both, but lately it seems ESO is leaving me behind with all the nerfs and bugs caused by the nerfs.

Forestd16b14_ESO

I'ma saiyan it...

The Elder Scrolls series > Fallout series.

Egonieser

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

On the other hand, ESO is a little bit different, generally speaking. Sure, we have our share of jerks, but, on the whole, most of the people I've run in to seem to be a bit less jerky. Maybe it's the atmosphere of an ES game? Maybe it's the way the game is set-up or maybe it's just because, in general, I truly do believe that the majority of players have had some sort of exposure to TES's long history and understand that it's "Play as you want", even when that is sometimes difficult.

I agree. Been through quite a few MMOs with shoddy playerbases that easily ruin the experience. This 1 isn't angelic, but it isn't the worst I've seen. Almost... lol

It's not the actual playerbase that i want, it's the feeling of not being alone, even if it means not talking to them, they are there and it feels like an actual world. I mean you aren't going to talk to all random strangers IRL you come across, but the fact you always have that option if you want. This option doesn't exist in a single player game. Also the fact that nothing you do in a single player game has any significance, you play theough it and it's done. You don't risk anything as you can save you your progress every 2 steps and if something goes wrong, you just hit F9 and continue as nothing ever happened.
In a server based MMO what you do has consequences for you and others both directly and indirectly, not so much story wise but in terms of interaction between yourself, other players and the world. That is the factor that makes a game immersive for me. I don't need well written quests or pretty grass textures or minimalistic UI and whatnot. The fact the world is alive and populated with other players is immersive enough for me.
A single player title no matter how good will never offer any of this.

TequilaFire

ESO ≠ Elder Scrolls series.
Just saying.

Tholian1

How long are the loading screens in Fallout 4? I may need a break from the grind of ESO soon.

MarrazzMist

New Fallout has amasing features, unfortunately as soon as somebody draws a gun, I get really really bored.

I'm more of a dual-daggers-kind of person.

Kwivur

vamp_emily wrote: »

nordsavage wrote: »

keeping up with the Jones's.

Had to laugh; that is a good way to describe this type of game.

I'm Jonesing right now... But can't leave work. No Fallout for me.

Uriel_Nocturne

I voted saying that "I'm staying here."

While I absolutely love Bethesda Game Studio's work (The Elder Scrolls is my favorite franchise of all. I drop every other game I'm playing for an Elder Scrolls title), I'm not excited by or interested in the whole "post-apocalyptic" thing.

I love the works of R.A. Salvatore, Ed greenwood, and Tolkien.
I love D&D.
High-Fantasy/Gothic Fantasy are my favorite settings, so The Elder Scrolls is the game franchise that really captivates me and has a death grip on me.

So, I'll be skipping Fallout 4. It looks like a quality game with thousands of hours of value to it, but it's just not for me.

I do hope that the people who buy it greatly enjoy it though.

UltimaJoe777

Egonieser wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

On the other hand, ESO is a little bit different, generally speaking. Sure, we have our share of jerks, but, on the whole, most of the people I've run in to seem to be a bit less jerky. Maybe it's the atmosphere of an ES game? Maybe it's the way the game is set-up or maybe it's just because, in general, I truly do believe that the majority of players have had some sort of exposure to TES's long history and understand that it's "Play as you want", even when that is sometimes difficult.

I agree. Been through quite a few MMOs with shoddy playerbases that easily ruin the experience. This 1 isn't angelic, but it isn't the worst I've seen. Almost... lol

It's not the actual playerbase that i want, it's the feeling of not being alone, even if it means not talking to them, they are there and it feels like an actual world. I mean you aren't going to talk to all random strangers IRL you come across, but the fact you always have that option if you want. This option doesn't exist in a single player game. Also the fact that nothing you do in a single player game has any significance, you play theough it and it's done. You don't risk anything as you can save you your progress every 2 steps and if something goes wrong, you just hit F9 and continue as nothing ever happened.
In a server based MMO what you do has consequences for you and others both directly and indirectly, not so much story wise but in terms of interaction between yourself, other players and the world. That is the factor that makes a game immersive for me. I don't need well written quests or pretty grass textures or minimalistic UI and whatnot. The fact the world is alive and populated with other players is immersive enough for me.
A single player title no matter how good will never offer any of this.

Indeed that is what makes an MMORPG so much better than a game you play on your own, but a playerbase can make or break a game by whether it is overall fair or foul.

DenMoria

I used to say I'd never play a "shooter" (and, I suppose, since Fallout isn't really a shooter, per se, I haven't), but Fallout has been an exception for me.

Friends on my Skyrim forum convinced me to pick it up a few months back and I fell in love (with 3, not NV), so, yes, I will definitely be getting F4.

I will be back to ESO though. No matter how mad it makes me and how badly (or well) I'm treated by my fellow players, there's something about it that always keeps me coming back.

BTW: Why do I play exclusively female human characters on the NA and exclusively beast races/mer on the EU? I must be weird.

ladyonthemoon

TequilaFire wrote: »

ESO ≠ Elder Scrolls series.
Just saying.

And you are wrong.
Just saying.

Necrelios

I'm going to monitor Fallout 4 on streams, wait for all of the DLC to come out, wait about another year after that, and then buy the all inclusive GOTY edition for $18 on a Black Friday sale.

Llafn_Nos

Sticking with ESO ...... Until Star Wars Battlefront

oSemaj

What's fallout?

BabeestorGor

Waiting
New games from Bethesda are always buggy as anything
I'll let the patches and the modding community fix the major issues before touching it

Besides my current pc wouldn't run it even at minimum specs

By the time I get my new pc (Jan/Feb) I'll maybe look at it but I prefer fantasy to post-apocalyptic settings so I won't devote all my time to it