Heavy armor needs buffed already.

idk

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So shields balance was addressed in the shields not in HA
Nirnh9ne pens bslance addressed in nirnhoned not ha.
HA got a damage component psssive likely replacing a sustain ehich helps it support more roles, not just tanking.

Overall not bad. HA more versatile for a multitude of builds and more like the other armor types it must balance against.

Not a bad start, imo.

Yes not a bad start but tanks are meant to tank not deal damage as the new "wraith" skill is doing.

Heavy Armor does not mean Tank by default. Ive been running a HA based AoE DPS PvP spec, and an HA based unkillable healer for months. Both do their respective roles (damage and healing) quite well actually, the mitigation is just there for its intended purpose.

Too many minmaxers discard niche builds and must use cookie cutter cause someone told them to. And ye, my stuff works in Trials, too. Deal with it.

Yes yes yes hybrids and all but if some one is wearing full 7 pieces of HA you would assume they wanna take all the damage when they know they would most likely have to give up alot of their DPS. Not all of it but most of it. Yes this change is nice and over do but full metal plate armor should have the best defense and best mitigation.

Thats kind of the point though, the minmaxer assumption is the DPS loss is staggering, believe it or not its actually very very small. A full LA vs full HA damage dealer do not have that much of a different in raw output. Correct the sustain problem (as they have with the new PTS patch) and they come out about equal.

In fact the ONLY thing LA really gives enough of to matter over HA is crit for PvE and Spell pen for PvP, neither of which is actually a must-have.

Also remember they buffed LA and MA not that long ago to bring their resists up. Middle ground builds are becoming meta because of this, hell the prismatic enchantment was made for this playstyle. 5/1/1 HA undaunted maxed + prismatics, infused and impen = lord of the tank trolls in PvP right now. 18k stam on a 40k magicka build with almost 2k crit resist and 30k health, and the ability to throw 15k+ cyro heals and big damage dumps.

The translation to PvE is more complicated, more "intricate" one might say, as impen is useless as hell there, but toss on a magelight to make up for the crit loss without LA and its just GET IT ON.

Magelight doesn't make up for the crit loss. Your assumptions for PvE are incorrect. Heavy armor for DPS has always been a loss in PvE. Especially fror the longer fights. Loss of crit and sustained. For stam builds its probably a bigger loss due to loss of weapon damage increase.

Sadly they're adding a little weapon damage passive to HA and I expect some will think it makes HA a dps armor.

Don't get me wrong. Someone wants to PvE dps in HA. Go for it. Just don't expect to be top dps.