Champion Points - 300 point cap in Dec?

twistedmonk

Funkopotamus wrote: »

twistedmonk wrote: »

if it happens, that would be the end of me playing this game...

If what happens? The CP cap???

You might want to quit now then because the cap is happening... It was announced already. This topic is just people trying to find out what the cap will be.

Nothing we can do about it.. Cap is confirmed you are late to the party I think.

oh...

well...I guess I quit then.

Guild Wars 2 is looking pretty good these days. much better pvp

Scyantific

SirJesto wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

SirJesto wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Advancing their character the whole point of playing a competitive game.
What is the point of not advancing your character build, proving you can mash a button faster?
Got to run just got into my PvP campaign where no one actually talks about CP except when they earn one.

AHHH A competitive game. Being so super powerful you can kill a dozen other players without a sweat. That's competitive? You want competition bro? Take me on with the same number of CP points.

I see you are of the mind set that actually believes when there are no CP you won't get rektd.
You are in for a big surprise.

Suck it up bubba, a cap is coming like it or not.

And you are still going to get your a** handed to you by better players. And what are you going to complain about then?

Telel

Scyantific wrote: »

SirJesto wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

SirJesto wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Advancing their character the whole point of playing a competitive game.
What is the point of not advancing your character build, proving you can mash a button faster?
Got to run just got into my PvP campaign where no one actually talks about CP except when they earn one.

AHHH A competitive game. Being so super powerful you can kill a dozen other players without a sweat. That's competitive? You want competition bro? Take me on with the same number of CP points.

I see you are of the mind set that actually believes when there are no CP you won't get rektd.
You are in for a big surprise.

Suck it up bubba, a cap is coming like it or not.

And you are still going to get your a** handed to you by better players. And what are you going to complain about then?

Telel think the old standbys claiming people are cyberpunk style hackers, and or know cheat codes will make a resurgence.

SeptimusDova

This one thinks all are already capped at 3601 CP

SirJesto

It's so awesome all the ragers coming on here saying they don't need CP to wreck people.

Scyantific wrote: »

SirJesto wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

SirJesto wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Advancing their character the whole point of playing a competitive game.
What is the point of not advancing your character build, proving you can mash a button faster?
Got to run just got into my PvP campaign where no one actually talks about CP except when they earn one.

AHHH A competitive game. Being so super powerful you can kill a dozen other players without a sweat. That's competitive? You want competition bro? Take me on with the same number of CP points.

I see you are of the mind set that actually believes when there are no CP you won't get rektd.
You are in for a big surprise.

Suck it up bubba, a cap is coming like it or not.

And you are still going to get your a** handed to you by better players. And what are you going to complain about then?

Actually I'm not complaining, you are.

Sheuib

Putting a cap on CP is stupid. There is already a limit and that is 3600. Just leave it there. Putting a cap is pointless. The first 300-400 points are the ones that give you the most benefit. I have around 300 CP and I am already seeing a significant diminishing return. Take magicka regen for example, 25 points is 9.5%, 50 points is 15.4%, 75 points is 20.4%, and the full 100 points is 25%. The first 25 points is over twice the benefit of the last 25 points. You really think that last 25 points is what makes a character unstoppable?

And lets be real about MMO's in general. There are always the people that have the best gear, the best stats, etc. No matter what limits you put in the game there are always going to be the people that are new to the game that cannot compete with the people that have been playing for a long time.

The cap is 3600 and should stay 3600!

Xeven

Scyantific wrote: »

SirJesto wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

SirJesto wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Advancing their character the whole point of playing a competitive game.
What is the point of not advancing your character build, proving you can mash a button faster?
Got to run just got into my PvP campaign where no one actually talks about CP except when they earn one.

AHHH A competitive game. Being so super powerful you can kill a dozen other players without a sweat. That's competitive? You want competition bro? Take me on with the same number of CP points.

I see you are of the mind set that actually believes when there are no CP you won't get rektd.
You are in for a big surprise.

Suck it up bubba, a cap is coming like it or not.

And you are still going to get your a** handed to you by better players. And what are you going to complain about then?

Nobody here is complaing about dying or being outplayed. It has nothing to do with that.

You can't be propped up by CP anymore. You actually have to outmatch your opponent. If you think there is something wrong with that then you need to have your head checked.

Rasimir

A cap of 300 would make all the 120-point-passives unobtainable. Most likely that won't happen. The minimum value for a cap would be 360...
But again: I do not like that idea at all. The champion system was designed to give us back what the introducion took away from our chars at that time. Don't turn this into a permanent nerf, and don't take away any progression from our chars. Progression is what people keeps playing. We need objetives or a lot will leave for new objectives somewhere else.
Have a look at IC. A lot of those that have all the mats and sets they want are already staying away from there.

Funkopotamus

Rasimir wrote: »

. Have a look at IC. A lot of those that have all the mats and sets they want are already staying away from there.

That was kind of the point of IC in the first place..
It was never ment to replace Cyro...

VincentBlanquin

Heruthema wrote: »

Any cap is a slap in the face of those who have put in the time to grind, grind, and more grind to get the CP they have. If I loose CP because of the whiners and complainers I will most likely move on from this game. It is a constent NERF fest. If you want to be at the top you have to put in the time. If you do not put in the time then why should you expect to be at the same level.

sorry to say you but you obviously need that slap in the face. game need go back to competitive level gameplay, if its even possible now. grind packs of helpless zombies for power, is not healthy gameplay and should never be possible in the game, zenimax wake up... kids grow up

Minnesinger

SirJesto wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Ok so I just watched the last eso live where they talked about this CP cap subject.



the problem is that there are people that have reached 2000 points.

Thread may be closed, nothing to see here folks..


They also said you won't lose champion points and you can still earn them if you have reached the season cap.

I'm not understanding why people would care about a cap anyways? Why wouldn't you want competition or a challenge? I guess I'm just different than a lot of the people complaining about it but if there isn't any challenge why would you play? Another argument is "well i grinded my face off for these 1500 cp now I can't use them" Cool man, now you don't have to waste your time grinding for a year and you can do other, way more fun things, like play the game.

Why would NOT any of the more seasoned players with huge amount of CPs enjoy of challenge? I am ready to give away my advantage for good fights. Grinding CPs hasn´t really been a challenge worthy of mentioning. It is a boring grind with very little adventure. When I think of PvP I am all for challenge. Come the limit I will make a build I will do well. From day 2 I have had huge taste for PvP. I saddens me to see guildies leave because they hate the current system with CPs. I want an healthy PvP population not 1 player with 2000 CPs as a "challenge".

Pazzuzu

You know after posting this question I realized that the question itself is flawed in the same way the poll on CP is flawed, it doesn't differentiate between PC and consoles - which having been out for different amounts of time, should have different caps appropriate to the amount of time they have been active.

We are getting alot of data crossing over from both sides (I think) - Zeni I hope you are aware that there needs to be a distinction here..., using data from console to inform a cap on the PC version ..well you know, would be just plain bad, and it will hit you in the bank.

For all the people that think a cap on CP will be the only thing that keeps this game going - well, game was mostly dead before 1.6 hit and the CP system was implemented. Can't blame Cp for that. Why do you think the game had to go Buy 2 Play - because sub rates and player activity dropped through the floor - would be my guess.

Its a trend i've seen over and over again on Everquest during my 10+ year stay there. The longer you go between content expansions, the lower the number of players gets. Every time there was a new content expansion released there was a massive surge in player activity - as i'm sure most of you probably noticed when IC dropped.

A CP cap will not save this game, if you want to keep your players involved you have to put out more content/time. In this aspect Zeni has been completely awful - which is really sad, because looking at IC (which I really like, its one of the most interesting bits of content i've seen in a MMO to date), i'd have to say if they could pump out high quality content like this on a regular basis, the game will do nothing but grow in population, and be one of the best in the genre. But leaving such a huge amount of time between content releases will slowly destroy your player base (or not so slowly).

Thanks to those few of you that actually answered the original question directly.

And one other thing, Sypher really epitomizes the exceptional player. He doesn't have alot of CP, but he wrecks whole groups of enemy players. You will always have players like this, new players will never have any chance against him with or without cp (aside from the very rare exceptional new player). I think some of the disparities are in fact coming from other places - like the shift toward sta gear and builds while mag builds seem to have become less powerful/survivable in pvp.

Malmai

Knootewoot wrote: »

They should make cap of 900 and make 900 the max amount of CP you can get. That will make more different varieties of builds. Also with 900 as maximum, newer players can catch up more easily.

Caps are useless for new players. In 5 years, the cap will be maybe 3600. If a new player comes and gets to V16, he will get wrecked by the "loyal fanbase" (ie the players who played 5 years) and will stand no chance.

Yes, CP do matter. I have 290 CP. Someone with same build but has 600 CP will have more weapon damage and regeneration. while I still have to choose... will I do WD or regeneration since I can't have both (or both much lower)

Its not just about regen and damage CP points give you advantage in every aspect...

coolermh

If you cap it what is the point of progressing anymore...I would cancel my sub because I wouldn't need the extra xp or crown since I am already maxed.... I think a lot of other people would do the same thing. The hole point of an RPG is to make your character stronger. If there is no more progression there is no more point to play.

Pazzuzu

I will likely cancel my sub as soon as the date/cap is announced.

I have already cut my playtime by more then half after hearing about a CP cap, it simply removes half of the reason for me to play the game since I am already over what any proposed cap will likely be.

Despite my preference for no cap to CP, I know that a well balanced game = a healthy game, which is better for everyone, so I am ok with a cap being implemented as long as its not too low (ie 1k for PC), tho I am skeptical that it will have much of an effect for pvp - for pve it will certainly nerf a large segment of the population if the cap is set too low.

Unfortunately, Zeni makes wide and sweeping periodic changes to the game, then does little to address certain bugs, problems and balance issues that crop up, for long periods of time - really hard to balance things in this context.

I don't envy Zeni's position here at all, this action will inevitably *** off/alienate a segment of the population no matter what they do with it.

J2JMC

Champion System would've been fine if the cap was 360 and not 3600. That would actually promote build diversity as opposed to blanket buff rewarded to players for killing goblins in cracked wood. Of course, they probably knew that people would grind to 360 in two days so they had to make it 3600. Despite being aware of the problems it would caused. And yes, Richard Lambert admitted on the most recent ESO Live that the current iteration of the CP system was a problem they were aware of, but went ahead with anyway.