[Datamine] Orsinium

Sallington

ADarklore wrote: »

They will have to add new items because most regular PvE players did NOT participate in IC and this DLC will be the only way they will be able to level to VR15 & 16.

Most regular PvE players hit Vr15 the first day from the banked XP, and could hit Vr16 extremely easily through craglorn, caldwell's gold, and running normal and vet dungeons.

grumlins

grumlins wrote: »

Hilarious. In every MMORPG we keep hearing the dwindling cry of the 1% asking for raids as they die off in number.

Cannot wait for more story stuff more solo and small group stuff.

"It's called an MMO for a reason you idiot. Think about it. The only reason raid guilds are dying is because they've run through AA HRC and SO enough times to cover the solo carebears that are too afraid to run them, and ZOS refuses to give them another reason to continue running them.[/quote]"

Actually every study done by every studio in ever major mmo has resulted in the same result. There's a reason why they are called the 1% because that's how much of the population they make up. It's called math.

ADarklore

Sallington wrote: »

Most regular PvE players hit Vr15 the first day from the banked XP, and could hit Vr16 extremely easily through craglorn, caldwell's gold, and running normal and vet dungeons.

Sure, most players who are already VR14, but there are many of us who are NOT VR14 and don't have banked XP, which means having Orsinium offer VR15/16 gear is the only way we'll get it because many, if not most, of us refuse to step foot in either Cyrodiil or IC.

Sallington

ADarklore wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Most regular PvE players hit Vr15 the first day from the banked XP, and could hit Vr16 extremely easily through craglorn, caldwell's gold, and running normal and vet dungeons.

Sure, most players who are already VR14, but there are many of us who are NOT VR14 and don't have banked XP, which means having Orsinium offer VR15/16 gear is the only way we'll get it because many, if not most, of us refuse to step foot in either Cyrodiil or IC.

PvPers have had to complete PvE content for the best gear since release. Even in IC, the trophies and stones come from PvE mobs. You can almost completely avoid anything resembling PvP. Most times I have to go actively looking for a fight to actually find one.

I don't understand why all of these PvEers "refuse to step foot" in IC. I don't think you're allowed to have an opinion without trying the content. Not an opinion that should matter anyway.


And why is it always PvE vs PvP players fighting against what the content should be. Why can't we all just be players and try to complete the content we want to. Which, for me, is all of it.

Leandor

Bloody brilliant! Release group-only content and be rewarded with a dead land. Proceed to make the same mistake again by creating solo-only content!

When do you realize that it is choice that holds players' interest?

nimander99

angelyn wrote: »

*salivates*

Drools

nimander99

Holy cow bells Batman! You data-mined the web page, epic!

JD2013

Leandor wrote: »

Bloody brilliant! Release group-only content and be rewarded with a dead land. Proceed to make the same mistake again by creating solo-only content!

When do you realize that it is choice that holds players' interest?

Like any other zone there's dungeons, likely world bosses, no dolomens though I'm guessing.

Leandor

JD2013 wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

Bloody brilliant! Release group-only content and be rewarded with a dead land. Proceed to make the same mistake again by creating solo-only content!

When do you realize that it is choice that holds players' interest?

Like any other zone there's dungeons, likely world bosses, no dolomens though I'm guessing.

Public dungeons and world bosses? Ooookay.

Meshal

does this mean more grinding?

Scyantific

JD2013 wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

Bloody brilliant! Release group-only content and be rewarded with a dead land. Proceed to make the same mistake again by creating solo-only content!

When do you realize that it is choice that holds players' interest?

Like any other zone there's dungeons, likely world bosses, no dolomens though I'm guessing.

It's cute how you think World Bosses and Public Dungeons are something that requires a full group to complete.

Kyoma

No new trial, ok, that news is gonna hurt my guild alot. Oh and "they are working on a new trial", yea, for the DLC AFTER Orsinium, meaning another 3 months atleast.

Sallington

Kyoma wrote: »

No new trial, ok, that news is gonna hurt my guild alot. Oh and "they are working on a new trial", yea, for the DLC AFTER Orsinium, meaning another 3 months atleast.

Agreed. I was really looking forward to a new Trial to run, especially since there's no point in running the old ones that don't scale.

JD2013

Leandor wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

Bloody brilliant! Release group-only content and be rewarded with a dead land. Proceed to make the same mistake again by creating solo-only content!

When do you realize that it is choice that holds players' interest?

Like any other zone there's dungeons, likely world bosses, no dolomens though I'm guessing.

Public dungeons and world bosses? Ooookay.

I see what you're saying. But if there's solo content people get up in arms! If there's group content "why can't I do things solo?!"

Imagine if there was a hybrid zone. People would complain about some content being required to group to get stuff. Some would complain about the opposite.

I'm not sure whether Zenimax isn't sure what this game should be, or if the player base is confused. They both seem to be a thing.

nine9six

I hope that one day they'll have Solo / Duo "Dungeons", like they had in Rift. My friends and I would *love* this!

I'm excited for the DLC, regardless.

Dagoth_Rac

I cannot imagine them releasing a DLC with absolutely nothing new for groups. Hopefully they will scale AA, HRC, VDSA, and SO to VR16. It would not be new content, but at least it would be something.

R3DTHR3AT

DLC for solo players? ZOS, why you even follow their interests?

Troneon

Fix the game first plz, thanks.

Eleusian

Maybe they think they will sell more of a DLC more solo oriented. Since they can run data to see who is doing what % wise. i personally would like to see real 8-12 party raids at some point. But probably not happening

Woeler

No new trial? We've already been waiting for so long...

Casdha

Not calling names here but to reply to a couple of points,,,

Sales and Server load will be the only thing that tells the success of this DLC and whether more folks want it or not.

Don't confuse Fear with Desire.

Don't assume I take the term carebear as an insult.

I want to see this game survive and be fun. I like all styles of play but they do have different percentages of time I have for each. Personally for myself it is roughly - Solo 80% PvP 19% and Group Dungeons 1% .

I would like to see a mix of each style of play (not necessarily these percentages) with each DLC, but from past actions it looks like we are gonna get a rotation. Crag (group with large group), IC (PvP with group), Orsinium (Solo with group).

You need to argue the mix, not how much you hate another player's play style. You will never win that argument because they need to try to appease all customers.

Enodoc

Fecius wrote: »

ORSINIUM

King Kurog has begun to rebuild the great city of Orsinium, the long-abandoned capital city of the Orcs.
[...]

THE REALM OF ORSINIUM

High in the rugged Wrothgar Mountains, the Orcs of Northern Tamriel gather to rebuild their ancient capital of Orsinium. Time and again it has been sacked and destroyed, but the proud Orsimer never give up. Come visit the realm of the Orcs, unseen in the Elder Scrolls series since The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall in 1996.

Think logically here, ZOS. Don't name the region and the city the same. Per the description paragraph right underneath, that should say THE REALM OF WROTHGAR.
It's well established (even in ESO already) that the region is called Wrothgar, and the city is called Orsinium.

Emma_Overload

Woeler wrote: »

No new trial? We've already been waiting for so long...

Not as long as the rest of us have been waiting for solo-able endgame content. You got Craglorn a couple months after launch!

DaniAngione

Good job mining that.

Think you could check for Murkmire too?

Leandor

JD2013 wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

Bloody brilliant! Release group-only content and be rewarded with a dead land. Proceed to make the same mistake again by creating solo-only content!

When do you realize that it is choice that holds players' interest?

Like any other zone there's dungeons, likely world bosses, no dolomens though I'm guessing.

Public dungeons and world bosses? Ooookay.

I see what you're saying. But if there's solo content people get up in arms! If there's group content "why can't I do things solo?!"

Imagine if there was a hybrid zone. People would complain about some content being required to group to get stuff. Some would complain about the opposite.

I'm not sure whether Zenimax isn't sure what this game should be, or if the player base is confused. They both seem to be a thing.

Why not create content that allows both, groups of four as well as solo players, to play it, quest lines that scale not only to level but also to number of players, with equal rewards (maybe differentiated by quality)? Why not introduce a hardmode that has the same rewards, whether done solo or duo or grouped, because difficulty scales that way?

A forced solo arena is going to either be too easy to provide content for the more dedicated players or too difficult for more casual players. If they keep in line with the concept that you need to do hardmode to get max level equipment, you will again lock out players, similar to the thousands of complaints about IC.

Why the heck do they repeat the same mistakes over and over again?

Enodoc

DaniAngione wrote: »

Good job mining that.

Think you could check for Murkmire too?

No joy on /murkmire, /thievesguild or /darkbrotherhood

ScruffyWhiskers

As a solo pvp'er I have to say I am very excited about Orcville (TM) now. I've finished Cad's Silver and Gold and then found Craglorn not very accessible. The solo arena sounds awesome.

Now please just give me a v16 version of Stygian but designed for a magicka melee player (light, +mag, +regen, +sp, 20% damage with spell on invis) and I will never complain again. Probably. Well a lot less.

JD2013

Enodoc wrote: »

DaniAngione wrote: »

Good job mining that.

Think you could check for Murkmire too?

No joy on /murkmire, /thievesguild or /darkbrotherhood

I don't think they'll release Murkmire. Too many people would complain about it being group content.

Woeler

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

No new trial? We've already been waiting for so long...

Not as long as the rest of us have been waiting for solo-able endgame content. You got Craglorn a couple months after launch!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game

JD2013 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

DaniAngione wrote: »

Good job mining that.

Think you could check for Murkmire too?

No joy on /murkmire, /thievesguild or /darkbrotherhood

I don't think they'll release Murkmire. Too many people would complain about it being group content.

Or complain that they cannot solo the content of a **multiplayer** game

Pangnirtung

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

I cannot imagine them releasing a DLC with absolutely nothing new for groups. Hopefully they will scale AA, HRC, VDSA, and SO to VR16. It would not be new content, but at least it would be something.

Kinda like Craglorn? Nothing for the solo player?

I too wish that there was content for ALL in these new DLCs.