MASSIVE fps drops.....

bugmom

Yeah, ok my fps is mostly around 15 now, even after rebooting, even without add-ons, even with graphics set to low, even with shadows off...

painsworth01

Confirmed that the Minimap by Fyrakin is presently causing massive drops in dps. Following uninstalling that addon and logging back into game, my fps tripled altho still not quite back to normal.

Draxys

Everything is updated. Tried with add ons and without addons. Only gained a couple of frames without them. Game runs significantly worse today than it did yesterday. I played solely in IC, and the performance was bad whether there were lots of people around or not.

billcage

FPS drops because of addons eat your pc memory . Do not use dozens of addons. Disable all addons and restart the game.After than just install the new addons for patch.

killerdecoy_ESO

I've got all settings maxed. No settings were changed from before or after this patch.

I'm getting 40-50 FPS usually in town at best when running in town 30-35 fps.

Out in the wild I'm between 50-60 FPS when standing still. This is after the zone loads in and I turn around to get the area "loaded up". Because right when I first load in I'm at 5 fps or so for a good 5 seconds or whenever I turn to face a new direction.

And well once I enter combat heaven help me I'm at 5 fps if I'm lucky. Once out of combat it goes back up. This is with and without add ons enabled.

And load times, what in the world did you do to them? I'm on a SSD and it takes for bloody ever to load now. I thought it was bad before but man oh man these are long now.

Specs are in my sig.

axw_ESO

I am getting wild swings in FPS 16-85, pre-patch FPS never dropped below 55.

I updated all my addons
Disabled all the out of date addons
Lowered graphics settings

No appreciable change in FPS.

4670k@4.3, 290X, 1080p, 16gb

Game is unplayable in Glenumbra.

twev

Craglorn in Belkarth. On NA.
Walking around the countryside I do 13-15 FPS.
In town I do 3FPS while walking/standing.

In the outlaws refuge I can get to 92FPS.

I go into infinite loading screens trying to enter the Outlaw Refuge behind the dye station, but I can get into and out of the back entrance down near the lake.

Using the latest vid driver dated July 29/15 from AMD for an R9/270 on Win7/64 since they went live.

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO

Same problem with me as well, in IC when killing bosses my FPS just gets too low, even reached 0.

4 man instances were the same. Can't do anything coz of this issue.

SLy_Kyti

Guys, just disabling add ons is not enough. You have to remove them AND their separately stored Saved Variables file. The Saved Variables file will try to load even if the add-on is removed. That itself can cause fps loss, even crashes.

What I do ( as a suggestion) is make a desktop folder called ESO test, put the questionable add-on in there along with the Saved Variables.
The only certain way to clear a bad add on is remove it completely, restart ( not relog or reload) the game.

The top problem makers I have found ( though I love them) is Fyrakins Mini map and/or Destinations.

For those without addons, I hope this is sorted soon.

Septimus_Magna

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

Guys, just disabling add ons is not enough. You have to remove them AND their separately stored Saved Variables file. The Saved Variables file will try to load even if the add-on is removed. That itself can cause fps loss, even crashes.

What I do ( as a suggestion) is make a desktop folder called ESO test, put the questionable add-on in there along with the Saved Variables.
The only certain way to clear a bad add on is remove it completely, restart ( not relog or reload) the game.

The top problem makers I have found ( though I love them) is Fyrakins Mini map and/or Destinations.

For those without addons, I hope this is sorted soon.

I noticed some FPS drops with Advance UI (AUI) add-on as well.

imredneckson

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Fya0713 wrote: »

Haderus and Azura's Star, Craglorn (on EP), Reaper's March, Grahtwood, NA megaserver, everywhere within those zones (those are the only zones I've been to so far). Tried restarting my PC we'll see if that works.

Thanks for the info! For the sake of covering all our bases, could you also try disabling your addons and see if that makes any difference?

Myself and other players in CN found out that the add-on that was causing our FPS problems was the MiniMap add-on

P3ZZL3

Some addons have a mini map built in to them, which you can turn on/off.

Are these also affecting the FPS, or is it only the stand alone ones?

Alcast

Had same issues on the pts, havent tested on live yet. I hoped it was only PTS issue, but if that doesnt go away, RIP ESO for me lul.
here:
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/202807/video-huge-fps-drops-when-fighting-mobs#latest

FPS Drops. Strange thing is, when i do NOT attack myself, everything is fine, but as soon as I do attack, RIP FPS
https://youtu.be/kwQrGObj8ac

And yes, tried turning off all addons + MINIMUM graphics

Carde

My issues mostly seem cleared up when not running Fyrakin's MiniMap (guessing this is having its own issues because it turns into a total slideshow when on) but load screens are taking like 3+ mins when going into delves in my VR zones. Might just be a dose of new patch/content madness.

Fyrakin

painsworth01 wrote: »

Confirmed that the Minimap by Fyrakin is presently causing massive drops in dps. Following uninstalling that addon and logging back into game, my fps tripled altho still not quite back to normal.

Which version and mode you were using?

Xantaria

Had this on PTS .... after about 30 minutes of playing my FPS goes below ten or even below 5. I'm using a 144 HZ monitor and usually have 95-100 FPs (because ESO locks the FPS at that point). GTX 980. This also happened when I play on MINIMUM settings. I needed to crash my game and restart everything to be able to play 30 minutes again.

Worried to hear it has not been fixed.

And honestly ... this is was not a problem before ... so it is a problem Zenimax created. So blaming Addons and tellling people to not use them is the wrong approach. Telling Zenimax to fix whatever they broke is the correct one. I NEED my Addons. How are we supposed to figure out mechanics and theorycraft without them? Measure the healthbars in pixels and then calculate the pixels per second you are inflicting to your enemy?

Belidos

Xantaria wrote: »

Had this on PTS .... after about 30 minutes of playing my FPS goes below ten or even below 5. I'm using a 144 HZ monitor and usually have 95-100 FPs (because ESO locks the FPS at that point). GTX 980. This also happened when I play on MINIMUM settings. I needed to crash my game and restart everything to be able to play 30 minutes again.

Worried to hear it has not been fixed.

If t's happening over time then that sounds like a memory leak to me, they really need to look into that.

Fyrakin

Belidos wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Had this on PTS .... after about 30 minutes of playing my FPS goes below ten or even below 5. I'm using a 144 HZ monitor and usually have 95-100 FPs (because ESO locks the FPS at that point). GTX 980. This also happened when I play on MINIMUM settings. I needed to crash my game and restart everything to be able to play 30 minutes again.

Worried to hear it has not been fixed.

If t's happening over time then that sounds like a memory leak to me, they really need to look into that.

These issues were seen on PTS and were reported.
IF you are experiencing bad UI performance try doing /reloadui after first character login. It seems that terrible lag happens only for the first time character load, switching character or /reloadui clears this mess. At least for me.

axw_ESO

Fyrakin wrote: »

Belidos wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Had this on PTS .... after about 30 minutes of playing my FPS goes below ten or even below 5. I'm using a 144 HZ monitor and usually have 95-100 FPs (because ESO locks the FPS at that point). GTX 980. This also happened when I play on MINIMUM settings. I needed to crash my game and restart everything to be able to play 30 minutes again.

Worried to hear it has not been fixed.

If t's happening over time then that sounds like a memory leak to me, they really need to look into that.

These issues were seen on PTS and were reported.
IF you are experiencing bad UI performance try doing /reloadui after first character login. It seems that terrible lag happens only for the first time character load, switching character or /reloadui clears this mess. At least for me.

Reloading has no appreciable impact to the problem for me.

MishMash

I was having the same issue my FPS were whacked out. I could not play at times it was so bad. I simply went into my add on section unchecked the Mini-map, and the Destinations to unload them. I did not restart the game and the issue seems resolved for now (about 1 hr playtime so far and no FPS issue). I use Minion Add on Management to check for my add on updates... but even with the latest update for the mini map I was still having the FPS issue. Destinations also had an update, but I do not know which one was actually causing it (maybe both?). I would try what everyone in here has suggested (the less aggressive approach first) until you find what works best for you and your unique PC situation.

medieval_TOG

FPS on my system has dropped by half (2Gb Radeon 7870) and even after removing every Addon, FPS drops as low as 10 in Upper CL. Was so used to running around with Ultra High settings and getting 100-90fps standing, and 80-70 in action, now even with the graphics tuned down to medium I only see 60-50fps standing and 20-30 in action.

The patch has taken this beautiful game and turned it into an eyesore.

Fyrakin

MishMash wrote: »

I was having the same issue my FPS were whacked out. I could not play at times it was so bad. I simply went into my add on section unchecked the Mini-map, and the Destinations to unload them. I did not restart the game and the issue seems resolved for now (about 1 hr playtime so far and no FPS issue). I use Minion Add on Management to check for my add on updates... but even with the latest update for the mini map I was still having the FPS issue. Destinations also had an update, but I do not know which one was actually causing it (maybe both?). I would try what everyone in here has suggested (the less aggressive approach first) until you find what works best for you and your unique PC situation.

These add-ons use alot of memory, what I figured that a simple /reloadui just before gaming session will fix the lag "caused" by memory usage. Switching characters will do that as well, I have thoroughly tested MiniMap with Destinations, Harvestmap, Skyshards and Lorebooks on PTS, what I am seeing (now on live too) is that when you first time start the client and load initial character you have a bad performance UI hiccups like every second FPS jumps up and down, etc. But if you then just switch a character or do a /reloadui you will have steady performance until you restart the client.

PS IF fisrt thing you try out is disable any add-on (ANY!) that will do the trick, so technically if you want to blame any add-on you can disable random add-on which will then reload ui and performance will get better...

P3ZZL3

Just a thought, maybe increase your LUA memory as well just to make sure?

Kas

happens to some peopel,. it seems. those people also have terrible problems opening the blue sewer chests (one to an extend where he just couldn't do it). for me, on the other hand, everything is smooth. seem to be an issue that affects some but not all

LordSemaj

It has something to do with how the textures are being loaded, they're loading SLOWER after the patch.

I'm noticing things "appear" suddenly as I get closer even though view distance is maxed.
I'm noticing textures on things such as clothes suddenly becoming higher definition a few seconds after I run up to the guy I'm looking at.
I'm noticing very load long times or total lockups when trying to zone into a solo instance, or any instance - even fence area.
Then there's the keeps that had no walls in the screenshot, the black silhouettes everywhere, textures are definitely not loading as fast as they used to.
Plus the FPS drops on loading into an area when everything is getting spammed at once.

This is all without mods too. They definitely changed something that's causing textures to load slower.

danno8

Kas wrote: »

happens to some peopel,. it seems. those people also have terrible problems opening the blue sewer chests (one to an extend where he just couldn't do it). for me, on the other hand, everything is smooth. seem to be an issue that affects some but not all

I noticed that too. Opening the sewer chests causes my fps to drop real low. I think it has to do with the particle effect they put around the chests, since I have not experienced any other fps problems so far.

Reminds me of the scarab particle effect problem in Al'kiri Dessert from a year ago.

MishMash

Just to note I did not change character to get things sorted. I simply did what I stated above. Almost 3 hrs into gameplay and not a single hiccup since those two addons have been disabled. I also did do a /reloadui before disabling any addons and still had the lag. Confused! Looking forward to the update that may fix them.

Master_Fluff

IC also has huge fluctuations in FPS. Standing still it's a smooth 45. Just turning to look to the left/right and it drops to 15. When fighting it's even worse; lower than 10.

Zershar_Vemod

nimander99 wrote: »

This shouldn't be a surprise at all...

Yup, every time there is a large update, an FPS genocide occurs.

My FPS still hasn't recovered from the last major patch, months ago.

mips_winnt

painsworth01 wrote: »

Confirmed that the Minimap by Fyrakin is presently causing massive drops in dps. Following uninstalling that addon and logging back into game, my fps tripled altho still not quite back to normal.

Thanks for the tip painsworth , I use that add-on and noticed the FPS drop and the "jerkiness" of the graphics all of a sudden.

I'll give it a try with that add-on removed.