Console text chat discussion II
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Neirymn✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Another try...
Text chat as on PC - scrapped previously by ZOS
Text chat via bubbles using customized radial chat - maybe
Text chat box within the social menu - maybe
Other text chat ideas- needed
With a text chat box within the social menu, it'll be hard to know when someone is responding to you because it's hidden when you play. But it could be like some kind of a text based party finder instead or a broad which you could sort with tabs for trading, finding groups, guilds, etc. For example, in FFXIV you have a duty finder that forms groups for you and along with this working (:p) tool there is a party finder that can be used to make a party by yourself, but it is also used to sell services like selling player houses or getting down some hard content for a price (I personally don't like the "buying a win thing" but it always existed in MMOs and it's trading too). I'm sorry if it's not very clear, it's hard to explain things with another language than your native's. ^^ This is not text chat, but it could be a nice addition to the game as another way to find groups or trade, don't you think ? It could solve some problems in regards of the lack of in game text communication too.
The quick chat system is not that bad but if I'm not looking to a player trying to talk to me, I can easely miss the bubble, that's only good for proximity chat but it could be used before running a dungeon for those who don't want or can't use voice chat to take a moment and talk about strategies. But for it to work, it'll have to be customizable and add more pre-set/auto-translated sentences.
I'll be good if ZoS add a text box, eventually. But if not and ESO is to be a non standard MMO on consoles, than I'll be glad if the quick chat system is extended and if some kind of a party finder is added so we can ask people's help to get down a world boss for example, as anyone could check the party finder in the social menu.
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✭✭✭✭✭here's an idea then,
Keep the PC chat/text box as is, right stick "in" for Xbox controllers (nothing mapped there anyways)....
I play on Xbox NA so I don't know PS controls but I would venture a guess it's similar/doable ....
Right click is bound already on Xbox One during gameplay to crouch
Edited by NewBlacksmurf on August 7, 2015 11:09PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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cerrudo33✭✭✭Shows how much i stealth...
Lt + *insert any button*.... The jist of it is use controller to access on screen chat box, either a keyboard or generic on screen keys to type, and find all the options and tweaks in the social tab off menu, including the ability to turn the whole thing off if desired0 -
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Lt + *insert any button*.... The jist of it is use controller to access on screen chat box, either a keyboard or generic on screen keys to type, and find all the options and tweaks in the social tab off menu, including the ability to turn the whole thing off if desired
You're trying and this is good....but that's block
Keep it up tho this is how we figure it out together
Edit: I guess the L trigger + could do something together tho but Another key either roll dodge or an attack occurs, etcEdited by NewBlacksmurf on August 7, 2015 11:32PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Ace_of_Destiny✭✭✭✭✭L3 isn't currently used.
Niether is L3 + R3.EQUALIZE ALL PLATFORMS!
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✭✭✭✭✭Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »L3 isn't currently used.
Niether is L3 + R3.
What are those for Xbox One?
I assume those are beside the triggers which are our ability 4 and 5 buttons
Button 4+5 = ultimateEdited by NewBlacksmurf on August 7, 2015 11:35PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Ace_of_Destiny✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
What are those for Xbox One?
I assume those are beside the triggers which are our ability 4 and 5 buttons
Button 4+5 = ultimate
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
What are those for Xbox One?
I assume those are beside the triggers which are our ability 4 and 5 buttons
Button 4+5 = ultimate
How don't you know what L3 and R3 is. Button 4 and 5 are L1 and R1
L3 + R3 are clicking in the left and right sticks.PS4 EU DC
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Ace_of_Destiny✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
How don't you know what L3 and R3 is. Button 4 and 5 are L1 and R1
L3 + R3 are clicking in the left and right sticks.
You got it.
L3 isn't used on PS4...nor XB1 as far as I know.
Nor is L3+R3.
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Ace_of_Destiny✭✭✭✭✭I have a feeling that L3 isn't currently used because ZOS intended that to be what we hit to open/start textchat.
Since they took it out, they didn't bother to map anything to it.
Just my suspicions though.EQUALIZE ALL PLATFORMS!
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Kleptobrainiac✭✭✭Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »
You got it.
L3 isn't used on PS4...nor XB1 as far as I know.
Nor is L3+R3.
"Click Sticks"
It's sprint, isn't it?The artist formerly known as StaticWax.0 -
cerrudo33✭✭✭Doesn't feel right without a controller in hand but L3 is sprint and R3 is sneak...
I recommended LT + any key because block doesn't cost anything unless you block and chat is not meant to be used in combat, at least for me and trying to get this added0 -
Ace_of_Destiny✭✭✭✭✭Kleptobrainiac wrote: »
It's sprint, isn't it?
Only if you are already running.
Wo is going to start textchat while running?EQUALIZE ALL PLATFORMS!
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
How don't you know what L3 and R3 is. Button 4 and 5 are L1 and R1
L3 + R3 are clicking in the left and right sticks.
Ok according to Google
L3 for you guys is sprint
R3 is crouch
Regards to clicking L3+R3 on PS4 is like clicking the left thumb stick + right thumstick on Xbox One its not bound but does that make sense as those are crouch and sprint together on camera and movement sticks
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✭✭✭✭✭Kleptobrainiac wrote: »
Idk, Caitlyn Jenner maybe?
Ha!!! That's so wrong but. Lol
So anyways. Does that make sense as in do you foresee no bad coming out of that button combination?-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Ace_of_Destiny✭✭✭✭✭It is a simple if/then statement...
If: moving
Then: sprint
When "if = not moving": open textchat
I haven't programmed anything in about 15 years, but this is simple even to me.
Hell, I can program my controller mapper to do it.EQUALIZE ALL PLATFORMS!
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Kleptobrainiac✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Ha!!! That's so wrong but. Lol
So anyways. Does that make sense as in do you foresee no bad coming out of that button combination?
I think it could cause problems if you're trying to sprint & accidentally activate the chat window instead of running away from an opponent. I could forsee many rage broken controllers due to a split second timing error in Cyro.The artist formerly known as StaticWax.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Kleptobrainiac wrote: »
I think it could cause problems if you're trying to sprint & accidentally activate the chat window instead of running away from an opponent. I could forsee many rage broken controllers due to a split second timing error in Cyro.
Ok so are we at yes this button sequence is an option
But there needs to be an option to turn that button sequence off in settings.
Or
Do we need to look for new ideas for a button or button sequences.
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Kleptobrainiac✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Ok so are we at yes this button sequence is an option
But there needs to be an option to turn that button sequence off in settings.
Or
Do we need to look for new ideas for a button or button sequences.
What about the start/menu button, then L3?The artist formerly known as StaticWax.0 -
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✭Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »It is a simple if/then statement...
If: moving
Then: sprint
When "if = not moving": open textchat
I haven't programmed anything in about 15 years, but this is simple even to me.
Hell, I can program my controller mapper to do it.
I do know. I think it might be easier to have the text chat's typing interface open from the options menu. Have it be a tab just like inventory or journal.2 -
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I do know. I think it might be easier to have the text chat's typing interface open from the options menu. Have it be a tab just like inventory or journal.
I was thinking the same but use L3 once in the menu as a shortcut.
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✭I understand that they would need to find a way to initiate text via the controller in some way, but I would be using a keyboard or a keyboard add on for the controller for text chatting, so for that set up, you should only need to hit enter to bring the chat window up. That is how I envision it anyway.PS4 Pro NA2 -
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I do know. I think it might be easier to have the text chat's typing interface open from the options menu. Have it be a tab just like inventory or journal.
Yeah. Anything in a menu seems like a easier idea to me
Just trying to be open to others
Quick wuestion. On Xbox when we hit Menu and then Y (triangle for PS4) do you guys get the voice channels?
Would it work there better than the social menu?
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And to address the other concerns of seeing stuff
A box to check for yes (show on screen)
No (keep in menu)
Box 3 - chat bubbles (shows text chat as chat bubble like radial chat)
Thinking cause of the no to a text boxEdited by NewBlacksmurf on August 8, 2015 12:21AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Kleptobrainiac✭✭✭I think it should remain in the menu & only have notifications (if anything) be on screen during regular gameplay.
IMO.The artist formerly known as StaticWax.3 -
mrdaveqc✭✭✭It would be nice if zos tell us if they will or not work on it .... I'm started to be very *** off by them not tell us anything about that ...Ps4 NA DC
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✭✭✭✭✭It would be nice if zos tell us if they will or not work on it .... I'm started to be very *** off by them not tell us anything about that ...
Let's keep working through our ideas tho and have an u flawed idea to present. OK?-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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I think that if they allow an option to enable or disable it in the menu, then it will act in the same way as simply having the text in the social tab but it will be better. This is because if we are talking in the social tab there is a higher likelihood of being attacked and dying because of how the game will not be as visible as it would be if the text chat would be in the UI. This also allows people to disable it completely from the UI when they don't want it and use it when they want to without being surprised.
An additional option would be having the text chat minimize into the corner with a couple of buttons. That way, if people find it clutters up the UI but they still want to use it, they can just have a transparent symbol in the bottom left corner after having it minimized. And maybe it could flash if there are messages in the channel you are in, this should also have a enable/disable option. I think this would be the best way to implement it by minimizing screen clutter and maximizing choices.
The buttons i think should be used to minimize and maximize are LT+(a button of the directional pad).1 -
Bleakraven✭✭✭✭It's getting more and more difficult to play non-solo in this game, I really wish they would just add text chat and let us figure out what to use (second screen, keyboard, controller) to type. It's way too lonely like this, especially now that my microphone doesn't work anymore.3 -
Zanefold✭✭✭Hey guys, for those who are upset about not having text chat on console should check out ESO's next live episode on twitch -- 8/14 at 4:00PM EDT
If you don't have a twitch account be sure to make one so you can post a message to them and ask them about text chat!
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