Perfect Roe Ratio discovery thread

Faugaun

Post how many fish you checked and how many Perfect Roe you acquired!

Hopefully we can use to get a ballpark ratio!

NovaShadow

My 1st roe was on my 20th fish. Have skinned another 50 and nothing yet.

Junipus

Bought 600 bait, got 5 Roe. Got 60 Shad from that bait and got another Roe from that. So about a ration of 110:1 for me.

Rosveen

I skinned over 200 fish and found nothing.

Paulington

I skinned over 2,000 fish and got a Perfect Roe every ~150 fish or so.

If I had to hazard a guess I'd put it at 0.5% to 1% chance per fillet.

MornaBaine

So essentially it's completely ridiculous and the time and effort to acquire all pieces of the recipe, being stuck depending on hireling mails for the TWO purple mats that, if you use them for this, will make it impossible to make the upper level food and drinks you ALSO need, and the absolutely terrible drop rate of the roe actually COMPLETELY NEGATES the point of getting a drink that is supposed to...wait for it.... SAVE YOU TIME.

Of course you can always just buy the version they'll be selling in the cash shop.


OF COURSE.

Dru1076

I spend a fair bit of time fishing last night. Got 80 or so fish, but the gods of random generation were unmoved by my devotion, and deemed me unworthy of any roe. I was rather disappointed to say the least, and gotta say I am aware of a friend who got four of them of 40. Random generation indeed. I would not have been so disappointed had I received a recipe fragment... But the same gods of random generation were only prepared to give me a green recipe I already knew. This experience tells me not to bother trying to get them, or at least not to waste time fishing. If you have to spend an hour fishing to get a roe so you can send an hour with increased xp gain, wouldn't my time be better spent just sticking with questing? I gained nothing but a stack of fish fillets last night.

I predict there will be a select few who steak ahead from the pack on cp thanks to this. And a few will make very large sums selling these potions. This is not the fast track system for alts I had been hoping for, and it looks like if I want to level up a sorc it's still going to take months. I have no intention of spending months in order to do that. I fear my happiness about these XP boosters was very short lived indeed.

I sure hope my first impression of this new system is way off...

EQBallzz

MornaBaine wrote: »

Of course you can always just buy the version they'll be selling in the cash shop.


OF COURSE.

^^this. Get out your wallets.

Rev Rielle

Skinned 8 fish so far and have received 2.

Paulington

EQBallzz wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Of course you can always just buy the version they'll be selling in the cash shop.


OF COURSE.

^^this. Get out your wallets.

The problem is the Crown boosters cannot be used with food or drink. Without food my Sorcerer only has 11.7k health which is not a whole lot. It basically means you cannot use Crown boosters whilst in dungeons or trials.

They will be fine for grinding, otherwise basically unusable if you want to have half-decent runs.

Ignore it all! Faulty information. .

lsneakl

I think it's more a reward for fishing as well as a way to get some cash influx. In the end is it really any different than ESO+ with the xp increase? At least this could be gained in game.

newtinmpls

Paulington wrote: »

The problem is the Crown boosters cannot be used with food or drink. .

The ZoS thread specifically states they can be used with food or drink.

victorhrpereira

I skinned about 105 fish for one perfect roe. Yeah, I could have spent that time grinding elsewhere instead.

No ZOS, you are not steam to suck all I have on my wallet, not even close.

Natjur

405 fish, 4 roe.... 1% chance by the looks for me so far

Paulington

newtinmpls wrote: »

The ZoS thread specifically states they can be used with food or drink.

I can't find that, however neither can I find anything to support my statement in those notes, so I shall retract my statement! .

Faugaun

@dru1976 but I see roe selling for 75k per atm. The stuff is flying off the shelves

Paulington

Faugaun wrote: »

@dru1976 but I see roe selling for 75k per atm. The stuff is flying off the shelves

Is this on NA? I've been buying it on EU all day for 15-25k each and selling the XP Pots themselves for 50k each.

nimander99

3 roe 300 fish roughly all three row were from lake fish and my first 70 then i started fishing rivers and a big fat doughnut since.

Natjur

Faugaun wrote: »

@dru1976 but I see roe selling for 75k per atm. The stuff is flying off the shelves

Wow, I was selling the XP potions for 50k, no way I would pay 75k for a roe, I was offering 15k max

Faugaun

Paulington wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

@dru1976 but I see roe selling for 75k per atm. The stuff is flying off the shelves

Is this on NA? I've been buying it on EU all day for 15-25k each and selling the XP Pots themselves for 50k each.

Ya on NA, so you spend 25k and get 200k nice !

Paulington

Faugaun wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

@dru1976 but I see roe selling for 75k per atm. The stuff is flying off the shelves

Is this on NA? I've been buying it on EU all day for 15-25k each and selling the XP Pots themselves for 50k each.

Ya on NA, so you spend 25k and get 200k nice !

Yeah, made over a million gold today, it's been a profitable one! .

newtinmpls

From the Intro to the experience potions thread:

"Note that although Psijic Ambrosia is considered a drink for the purposes of Provisioning, it does NOT prevent you from also having a food or drink buff active. This means you can drink a Psijic Ambrosia, and immediately drink some Red Rye Beer, and you will have both effects active on you."

Dru1076

Natjur wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

@dru1976 but I see roe selling for 75k per atm. The stuff is flying off the shelves

Wow, I was selling the XP potions for 50k, no way I would pay 75k for a roe, I was offering 15k max

No...definitely not what I was hoping xp boosters to be. This is just another way for people to make money, and not the fast track for leveling alternate characters I believe most people asking for these boosters was hoping for.

And looking at the shown drop rates, I can see their generation is very random indeed. Perhaps I will be one of the people getting 2 from 8 fish tonight... But I am not banking on that.

Nebthet78

The time spent trying to get all the recipe fragments and then the Perfect Roe on top of it is much better spent just playing the game and getting XP that way.

I think they should just put the whole recipe in the Crown store for people to buy instead.


Oh and to answer the question: Last night fillet'd 250 fish, received 5 Roe. So ~ 1/50.

Perniciouss

I have skinned 3637 fish and gotten 37 Perfect Roe. I have been tracking my progress on occasion and each time I did the rate calculation, it has come out to a 1% chance. It definitely is a crap shoot on when you will get one. There were times i would go 150 skinnings before getting one, while another time i got 2 within 5 skinnings. You never know when you will get one. Completely random.

hamgatan

Got one on my 77th fish, will continue fishing tonight

Well Zenimax, you sure found a way to get everyome into fishing..

UrQuan

All of the people who don't like fishing hate how much time it takes to get perfect roe, while those of us who like fishing are just walking around with big grins on our faces

Eventide

I have skinned over 1500, honestly stopped keeping track after that, and not a single Roe. Though, like a gambler at a slot machine, I keep on fileting the fish thinking I'm bound to get some back to back jackpots soon enough.

Exstazik

1 per 25-30

Acrolas

You can't really find a ratio for this, because it's n% per fish, not n% per x number of fish skinned. Each event is independent.

What you'd have to do is have 1,000 different people skin one fish and tabulate the results. If three out of that 1,000 get roe, then your sample success is 0.3%. That's still not a drop rate. That's just a survey of yes over no.

Then you'd have to run 1,000 people many more times to get an observed low-high range. For example, in a sample of 1,000, between 2 and 11 people found one roe off of one fish. Or 0.2 to 1.1%.

Which is a pretty crappy range for something prized and sought after yet worth absolutely nothing to a vendor.

But that's all right. Fishing is a nice, relaxing in-game hobby. And it's strange how Ambrosia is one of the most interesting puzzles in the game so far. In some ways, the search is going to be more fun than actually using it.

Faugaun

Acrolas wrote: »

You can't really find a ratio for this, because it's n% per fish, not n% per x number of fish skinned. Each event is independent.

What you'd have to do is have 1,000 different people skin one fish and tabulate the results. If three out of that 1,000 get roe, then your sample success is 0.3%. That's still not a drop rate. That's just a survey of yes over no.

Then you'd have to run 1,000 people many more times to get an observed low-high range. For example, in a sample of 1,000, between 2 and 11 people found one roe off of one fish. Or 0.2 to 1.1%.

Which is a pretty crappy range for something prized and sought after yet worth absolutely nothing to a vendor.

But that's all right. Fishing is a nice, relaxing in-game hobby. And it's strange how Ambrosia is one of the most interesting puzzles in the game so far. In some ways, the search is going to be more fun than actually using it.

Your math is off....you don't need 1000 people to skin 1 fish....each skinning is an independent event so far we have a sample pool of over 7000 independent samples, obviously the more we get the better our idea of the actual ratio. It would be great to g get about 100k skins worth 9f data that outta give a decent idea what the ratio actually might be...if it doesn't then the ratio is so bad we probably don't care any longer