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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Blackwater Blade (EU)

  • Fodore
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    Everyones probs just doing the anniversary event like me
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Jawasa
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    Hehe ok i just remember the zergs from last time.
  • Fodore
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    Yeah, hopefully it won't be like that, enough zergs as it is
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Jawasa
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    I for one like bwb to be at 3 bars per faction!
  • Fodore
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    That's sarcasm right?
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Jawasa
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    Nop high pop is the best atleast like in bwb that dont have lagg. It only becomes a problem when it means lagg. My dream is the old days when you could have 1500 per campainge.
  • Fodore
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    It's good if you're not ad with 100 of ep and dc on each side mindlessly zerging 10 of us down... I suppose it's good if that doe sent happen :)
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Jawasa
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    Ad can zerg pretty well too. EP seem to be the bottom team atm from what i have seen lvling My magicka templar in bwb the last weeks. At least looking at points.
  • Fodore
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    Fair point, I'm doing anniversary atm but will continue on my magplar after, the solo magplar has a rough life... a bit better in small coordinated groups, we in a rough spot atm
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Fodore
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    Also there are so many siege snatchers now it's unreal
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Fodore
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    Also there are so many siege snatchers now it's unreal
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Jawasa
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    They are the best in small group i'm running guard and it's awsome. :) Solo i can live for a long time but Yeah Killing a good player prob wont happen.
  • Fodore
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    have not tried running guard on it, may give it a go, I definitely will with another Templar I have when they are finally vet and I have a blazplar load out aswell as some others.

    What I find with killing good players is that you can buy you need very good timing, like save your ulti, pop a mages guild ability for the empower, meteor, javelin fast so they can't block, then jabs a few times, makes it easier if you have purifying light in before hand.

    Imo templars are the perfect counters to
    Magdk's with their cleansing etc, usually you can tank good players but the killing bit is the hard bit
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Ray Dm
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    Jawasa wrote: »
    Nop high pop is the best atleast like in bwb that dont have lagg. It only becomes a problem when it means lagg. My dream is the old days when you could have 1500 per campainge.

    Only zerglings would wish for this... More people to zerg with I guess. Makes sense :smile:
  • Jawasa
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    Haha no it's about wanting a healthy, populated cyrodil and not wanting to kill the same pugs over and over. If you want to duel or fight against equal nummbers you have bg's soon. The openworld fights that are the most memorable are when you fight outnumbered.

  • Ray Dm
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    if there's 1500 people running around, at the end of the day, all you'll be doing is zerging... Not sure about BwB now, but when I was there, it was populated enough. As for vet, especially in prime time, they have way too many people running around...
    1500 people per campaign isn't healthy at all when there's already zergs everywhere. What you're asking for imposes even more zergs...
    As for fighting equal numbers, you should know that that's not what I play for, since I've slapped you around in an outnumbered situation before. But asking for more zerging is definitely not what I'd want though... Outnumbered, yes... Equal numbers, can bring it on, but meh.
  • Jawasa
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    Zergs everywhere more like at chal, alessia bridge and nikel/ash. It's not he nummbers that are to high now it's that every1 fights at 3-5 different spots. Reason vet primetime is bad is because the game cant handel it not the amout of players imo. BWB is fine now primetime 2-3 bars probably per faction.

    I know that you run solo most of the time and that you slapped me around 1v1 several times. Outnummbred i cant remeber a singel time but your probably right. Since you remeber me then you also know i'm not zerging often mostly solo or 1-6 players and then in a large DO Group maybe a few times a month.
  • Extinct_Solo_Player
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    Jawasa wrote: »
    Zergs everywhere more like at chal, alessia bridge and nikel/ash. It's not he nummbers that are to high now it's that every1 fights at 3-5 different spots. Reason vet primetime is bad is because the game cant handel it not the amout of players imo. BWB is fine now primetime 2-3 bars probably per faction.

    I know that you run solo most of the time and that you slapped me around 1v1 several times. Outnummbred i cant remeber a singel time but your probably right. Since you remeber me then you also know i'm not zerging often mostly solo or 1-6 players and then in a large DO Group maybe a few times a month.
    A good reason not to increase the pop to 1500, you wouldnt like BwB to lag like vet would you?
  • Ray Dm
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    Jawasa wrote: »
    Zergs everywhere more like at chal, alessia bridge and nikel/ash. It's not he nummbers that are to high now it's that every1 fights at 3-5 different spots. Reason vet primetime is bad is because the game cant handel it not the amout of players imo. BWB is fine now primetime 2-3 bars probably per faction.

    I know that you run solo most of the time and that you slapped me around 1v1 several times. Outnummbred i cant remeber a singel time but your probably right. Since you remeber me then you also know i'm not zerging often mostly solo or 1-6 players and then in a large DO Group maybe a few times a month.
    A good reason not to increase the pop to 1500, you wouldnt like BwB to lag like vet would you?

    No. he means like what it was when the game was released. I wasn't playing at the time, but I saw videos. The servers were way more filled than it is now and there were no lag
  • Ray Dm
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    Jawasa wrote: »
    Zergs everywhere more like at chal, alessia bridge and nikel/ash. It's not he nummbers that are to high now it's that every1 fights at 3-5 different spots. Reason vet primetime is bad is because the game cant handel it not the amout of players imo. BWB is fine now primetime 2-3 bars probably per faction.

    I know that you run solo most of the time and that you slapped me around 1v1 several times. Outnummbred i cant remeber a singel time but your probably right. Since you remeber me then you also know i'm not zerging often mostly solo or 1-6 players and then in a large DO Group maybe a few times a month.

    No. Those are not the issues... Solo/small scale players will get zerged by 20+ people and chased for very long... Your idea to bring 1500 people in to a campaign will end up with solo/smale scale players to get zerged by double or more those numbers... Vet prime time isn't just lag issues, it's how you get zerged. Yeah I said I want to be in outnumbered situations, and obviously I also don't like getting run over by 20+ people, though I accept it. But Your idea will just increase that 20+ people and that is not okay. You call that healthy? I call that cancer Sorry, but if you actually did do solo/small scale, then you wouldn't ask for 1000 more people added to a campaign
  • Ray Dm
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    what would be nice tough is if zos can sort their servers out that it can actually handle these huge numbers, cause it used to handle way more than what we have now
  • Ray Dm
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DV9TwsosyI&t=536s

    Here's what it looked like...

    the biggest issue I saw was frame drops, where as now it's both frame drops as well as lag.
  • Fodore
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    Who's this legio mortem people?
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • raviour
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    on the zergalism thing, haderus/blackwater are the only place to be right now for a bit of small scale.

    personally i in haderus leading werewolf pack coz they not re-rolling try hards like us. wolfing pros is more fun than peasant slaying.
  • Fodore
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    Me and a few of my group wanna move to haderus but the others are not so keen, the rerolling and updating armour is so annoying...
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Jawasa
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    I just dont agree with that cyrodil has plenty of space for more players it's huge but every1 crams into the same place. Just give them a reason to spread out and reduce the benifits of zerging. I think cyro can harbor a 1500 player base.

    But atm eso dont have that amount of players in pvp so it wont matter. And if They did the server would crash with 1500 players. So it's nothing to argue about.
  • Fodore
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    Can we all stop arguing bout this, there are more pressing matters such as templars now being useless in the next update...
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Jawasa
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    Haha yeah about next patch i'm gonna try not to panic until atleast next patch notes.
  • Fodore
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    Im just hoping this is an ill timed april fools joke
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • Alphaa
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    People weren't as hungry for AP back on release so the zergs wouldn't actually bother chasing 2 guys across the map, they would just run to the next keep and set up for epic scale siege battles.

    They would need to change the map or mechanics of cyrodil before increase the pop-caps or it would just be more crowded at the emp ring.

    CP campaigns aren't entertaining for me, there is no balance at all. It's just fighting till someone crits all there combo. Azura has its issues but is for the most part as 'balanced' as it gets.

    Morrowind sustain sounds like it will be a slap in the face just by reading the patch notes!
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