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Are on-screen advertisements for the Crown Store acceptable?

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  • xSkullfox
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    as long i pay every month this is not acceptable, you can display that on non sub. accounts.
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  • Sacadon
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    Elijah_Crow wrote: »
    Did ZOS forget to tell you?

    You don't get to vote.

    You see, you are voting about what you think is best for you, not what is best for them and the game.

    If an occasional on screen ad is game breaking to you, then you have larger issues. Nothing in the crown store is game breaking, and a system message is at most a minor annoyance to some and a pleasant reminder for others.

    You are lucky they don't happen every 25 minutes like other games. Your also lucky that the items they are selling are not P2Win. If an occasional system message prompts purchasing, I prefer it to other more aggressive monetization.



    Of course we're concerned about what's best for us. It would cost way too much to have someone follow me around and worry about my stuff, just isn't feasible, lol. I agree we are lucky to have a game like ESO. I don't believe that just because they are not doing like others that we should shut up and not share our preferences. On the contrary, my speculation on the source of concern for most isn't just game nuisance, but that it cheapens the game and removes one of the (not the only) greatest things it had going for itself over the other games and therefore an attractor.

    I want it to be different and give players a distraction free experience and also thrive financially. I believe we can have both. If we always followed what others thought, the norm as it were, we'd still be sitting in a cave with no fire.

    Edit: your wrong, we do get to vote and ZOS has stated clearly and on several occasions that they want our feedback. They've never scoped or said they don't want feedback on certain things.
    Edited by Sacadon on April 18, 2015 1:32PM
  • Suru
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.
    Lol so many people's immersion being broken. Thanks Zos! But seriously, every MMO has done this at some point. Stop the salt and grow up. This is a business and was only shown for that period briefly.


    Suru
  • Soundso
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    I would not mind if it's in the chat or as a mail. But in the middle of the screen in 3 languages is just horrible.
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  • Audigy
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    Brandalf wrote: »
    GamerzElite wrote: »
    We died at Mantikora dude to this Spam. It is only acceptable when You are warning people for Mega Server Shut down.

    Lol do you die when someone takes/drops/captures a scroll or an emp is crowned/deposed in your home campaign? Because it's the same damned alert with a color change. Don't be so silly.

    And exactly this is getting on my nerves since a long time. I don't care what some hardcore did at ESO :( and I wish there would be a way to shut these messages down. Its several times an hour and ruins a lot in this game.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.
    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    There seems to be some confusion as to what and where the messages popped up. This is what it looked like. Large letters in yellow across the screen. This is what we are voting on.

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    It's OK if and only if it's OK for people to spam trade, guild and lfg, etc in zone chat.
    If we can do it why does it bother people that ZOS does it? (I do see the top section that players cannot announce but in general any company announcement should appear in this manner)
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  • azoriangaming
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    put them on load screens with pics
    Edited by azoriangaming on April 18, 2015 3:39PM
  • Raash
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.

    Elloa wrote: »
    xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »
    The fact that people are this upset over this makes me question humanity

    It's a question of principle. Sometimes you need to draw the line that can not be crossed. The community that disagree with in game advertissement express their concerns, because that's one step too far.
    Most of us didn't agreed with the Buy to Play model in the first place and with teh CrownShop. But we had to accept it and we accepted it at the condition there would not be Pay2Win items or cheezy advertissement.
    Today we are showing that Zenimax crossed that line.

    I'm a huge fan of The Elder Scrolls Online and Zenimax, as everyone know, and I love this game, but I strongly disagree with that.

    The community "accepted" it? I would perhaps hade choosed the word "swallowed" but who am I to decide really. I wasnt here when the agreement happened.
    Either way I actually like the picture you draw where ZoS humbly asks the community for guidance and you guys agree that its a necessary evil and give ZoS OK to implement it, but only if certained conditions are met...
    If it really was like that I can understand so many grinding their teeth in anger of being victims of such treachery.


  • Armitas
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    If we don't care about immersion when it comes to the crown store can we go ahead and not care about it and update this UI to the modern era?
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Slant
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    Completely unacceptable.
  • Molsondry
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    still hapening getting spammed in 4 different language on NA server... like we need russian spam.. like we needed spam at all
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  • DominusPax
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    If you want to tell me about a limited time purchase for your store *_email me_*. I don't want this stuff in the game. This was one of the reasons I quit Star Trek Online for. I don't want pop-ups that aren't vital. Your store items are not vital information.

    *It's on the stinkin launcher.* Leave it at that.
  • PKMN12
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    anyone who did not see this coming from a mile away is still under the illusion that ZOS cares.
  • Destai
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    There seems to be some confusion as to what and where the messages popped up. This is what it looked like. Large letters in yellow across the screen. This is what we are voting on.

    256u68y.png


    It's OK if and only if it's OK for people to spam trade, guild and lfg, etc in zone chat.
    If we can do it why does it bother people that ZOS does it? (I do see the top section that players cannot announce but in general any company announcement should appear in this manner)

    Can you show me a screenshot of player spam that reaches across the entire screen, please?
  • Cristiano
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.
    I don't have a problem with it, except I think it should simply be on the load screens when you transition between zones. The way they are doing it is tacky as hell. It reminds me of the loot box advertisement spam from Neverwinter.
  • TD5160_ESO
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.
    Elloa wrote: »
    But we had to accept it and we accepted it at the condition there would not be Pay2Win items or cheezy advertissement.

    What? We didn't agree to anything, and our approval didn't decide the fate of whether ESO went B2P or not.

    We didn't set any conditions or terms that ZOS had to follow to go through with B2P.

    This post right here just shows how delusional a great number of the forum-browsing fanbase are.
  • Maotti
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    This is not ok! End of.
    Edited by Maotti on April 18, 2015 8:50PM
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  • Nebthet78
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    WraithAzraiel wrote: »

    Seriously? A system message made you and your friends ragequit? Priorities, bro.

    Who said we rage quit? And what's it to you what mine and my friend's priorities are?

    As console gamers, my friends want nothing to do with idiotic advertisements being splashed across the screen while they are trying to play something, and I don't blame them. As someone who has been playing this game since early Beta, this type of crap ruins my immersion and I don't want to see it. I refuse to purchase anything that is advertised. I cancelled my television service because I got sick of seeing commercials and watch advertisement and monetarily free on the PC now.

    Information regarding the Limited Time for this stupid mount is available in several places. Emails, Facebook, Twitter, the Forums. We don't need it to be played across the screen in game, whether or not it is a limited time thing. There are many better ways for them to send out a message to ensure that the most people see it in game, and that is NOT splashing it across as a system message. They can use the Login Screen where there is already an area they placed to update information etc or there is the Character selection screen as well so when people are switching characters they see it each time. It is somewhat out of the way and does not ruin immersion while playing the game.

    So yeah, if you don't like the decisions we made that is too bad for you.

    and PS... I am not a BRO .. and am highly offended that you automatically assumed such.


    NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
    It's OK if and only if it's OK for people to spam trade, guild and lfg, etc in zone chat.
    If we can do it why does it bother people that ZOS does it? (I do see the top section that players cannot announce but in general any company announcement should appear in this manner)

    Zone chat can be turned off, and it can be hidden. Players who are spamming zone chat can also be added to the Ignore list so you never see their postings again. System Messages cannot. Huge difference there.


    Edited by Nebthet78 on April 18, 2015 9:41PM
    Far too many characters to list any more.
  • AH93
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.
    On non-sub accounts very briefly, but not much so that it's intrusive.

    On sub accounts it's not acceptable at all.
    Edited by AH93 on April 18, 2015 9:40PM
  • Valen_Byte
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    ZO$ is misinterpreting there data if they think that people are not buying Crown Store items because they dont know its there. We ALL know what is in the crown store. We ALL know how to check and see if there is anything new. We dont need to be told.
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  • TD5160_ESO
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.
    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    ZO$ is misinterpreting there data if they think that people are not buying Crown Store items because they dont know its there. We ALL know what is in the crown store. We ALL know how to check and see if there is anything new. We dont need to be told.

    Do we? Including the people joining for the beta weekend that never experienced the Crown Store until now? They already know how to access the Crown Store and know what's available?

    Good attempt, but try again.

    Edit: Love how $ is used to show how "evil" a company is. Just looks petty. Grow up.
    Edited by TD5160_ESO on April 18, 2015 10:37PM
  • Vivecc
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    *sigh*
    well, at least they ASk us about it, some other gaming - companies don´t even bother that much....
    so <3 Zeni
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  • TGWarlock
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    I saw the leopard mount on the launcher. I went and bought crowns and then got the mount. Then I saw the pop up add on my screen and I rolled my eyes. It came up in Spanish, and I though "really?". Then I was accosted by the add once more in German (German??? On a NA server?? At least Spanish is common in NA, but German??) and I instantly regretted spending a penny on the trice cursed thing. And now I hear you've added Russian to the mix, really? Do you know what languages are commonly spoken in NA?

    I said in another thread that I see this kind of adds as crying wolf. You're conditioning people to ignore system messages with adds they don't care about. So when you have something important to tell us with a system message, it gets ignored like all the other spam.
  • Valen_Byte
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    TGWarlock wrote: »
    I saw the leopard mount on the launcher. I went and bought crowns and then got the mount. Then I saw the pop up add on my screen and I rolled my eyes. It came up in Spanish, and I though "really?". Then I was accosted by the add once more in German (German??? On a NA server?? At least Spanish is common in NA, but German??) and I instantly regretted spending a penny on the trice cursed thing. And now I hear you've added Russian to the mix, really? Do you know what languages are commonly spoken in NA?

    I said in another thread that I see this kind of adds as crying wolf. You're conditioning people to ignore system messages with adds they don't care about. So when you have something important to tell us with a system message, it gets ignored like all the other spam.

    Good to know what a new players thoughts are on this. You obviously didnt need the adds in order to find and purchase the Leopard. I guess that proves the "many players dont know its there" theory wrong.

    Edited by Valen_Byte on April 18, 2015 10:57PM
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  • TD5160_ESO
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.
    TGWarlock wrote: »
    I saw the leopard mount on the launcher. I went and bought crowns and then got the mount. Then I saw the pop up add on my screen and I rolled my eyes. It came up in Spanish, and I though "really?". Then I was accosted by the add once more in German (German??? On a NA server?? At least Spanish is common in NA, but German??) and I instantly regretted spending a penny on the trice cursed thing. And now I hear you've added Russian to the mix, really? Do you know what languages are commonly spoken in NA?

    I said in another thread that I see this kind of adds as crying wolf. You're conditioning people to ignore system messages with adds they don't care about. So when you have something important to tell us with a system message, it gets ignored like all the other spam.

    You may be surprised to learn that... not everyone in NA speaks English... Gasp, I know, right? ESO supports German and French and players, even in NA, can have those languages selected.

    Try to be a little more culturally sensitive.
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  • Nhoxxx
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store ARE acceptable.
    A company trying to make some money by using ads...what a shame...
    Btw I'm gonna sue the maker of my television for making some ads on tv, I shouldn't see them since I bought their TV ...
  • Turelus
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    I knew about the mount causing most the issues via, Facebook, Twitter, Website, Forums and Launcher.

    If someone is able to miss all of those and needs an in game pop-up message to inform them then I am not sure their need for information on this mount is their main issue.
    Anyone connected to the game is going to know about the news, there is even a large empty space on the right hand side of the log-in screen where advertising banners could go (displayed once and down return when crossed off).
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  • Amsel_McKay
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    Nhoxxx wrote: »
    A company trying to make some money by using ads...what a shame...
    Btw I'm gonna sue the maker of my television for making some ads on tv, I shouldn't see them since I bought their TV ...

    In some countries there are no ads on TV stations... This practice was started in the US and greedy companies wanted more and more money so they added more ads. We paid a TV license and would get channels without ads... now you pay for cable (AND A LOT) and have ads.

    ESO has gone the greed route, and some people still pay a monthly fee and dont expect ads, I'm sure people would even pay for an even more premium service to remove ads.
  • Rox83
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    On-screen advertisements for the crown store are NOT acceptable.
    I'd rather see a splash screen when logging in or just a "Whats new" page on the Crown Store.

    System messages like that should only be use in emergencies. And please we don't need to see it pop up 2-4 times in different languages. (at least not on the NA server)
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