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Templar Skills Bugged/made useless - IGNORED

  • Cinbri
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    I don't know did you get my answer @Soris However after my and my friend fail at AMA, my hopes for templars decreased.
  • Soris
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    Yes ty I saw the message just now^^
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  • Zsymon
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    Templars are going to need some massive improvements if they're going to be viable, I don't see that happening. ZOS probably thought problem solved with Radiant Destruction, even though it fixed neither the offensive weaknesses nor the defensive ones.
    Edited by Zsymon on June 19, 2015 9:38AM
  • Soris
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    I'm hoping to see from this next patch, a true fix for those obvious bugs and some buffs for our defensive skills, most importantly the shield and aura. And ofc a complete rework to that stupid healing ritual and maybe jabs to make it instant instead of channel.
    I still have a hope :D
    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • Cinbri
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    So, Sun Shield is 2D effect after all. Now i understood how they increased perfomance while BS is active :D
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    Zsymon wrote: »
    Templars are going to need some massive improvements if they're going to be viable, I don't see that happening. ZOS probably thought problem solved with Radiant Destruction, even though it fixed neither the offensive weaknesses nor the defensive ones.
    Well, RD is not fixed as it not breaking by LoS, sorry but fail again. :)
    Edited by Cinbri on June 19, 2015 10:25AM
  • Soris
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    I guess he meant "ZoS thinks giving RD to templars fixes everything" Well in fact it's not. It created bigger problem. Survivability is almost halved for that trade and also due to the some unrelated things.
    Everyone who plays no templar hates that spell and I know many templar friend including myself don't like that spell at all. I would be much more happier if that trade wasn't happened at all. I mean the last thing we need/want is another channeled/hard casted ability lol right?
    Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]
  • Cinbri
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    Soris wrote: »
    I guess he meant "ZoS thinks giving RD to templars fixes everything" Well in fact it's not. It created bigger problem. Survivability is almost halved for that trade and also due to the some unrelated things.
    Everyone who plays no templar hates that spell and I know many templar friend including myself don't like that spell at all. I would be much more happier if that trade wasn't happened at all. I mean the last thing we need/want is another channeled/hard casted ability lol right?
    Agree, just wanna add that they traded with new skill that still have LoS bug, animation bug and some people saying damage bug returned after unintended fix... I guess it could be counted as fail in all aspects.
  • Tankqull
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    Doing EC or TC you get some weird pathing. Instead of charging across a water puddle I sometimes get put on the scenic route. I am waiting for it to put me in a wall.

    thats one of the most awefull effects a charged person can have as they are "stunned" during the charge happens(added to all charges in 2.0.9(?))
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • david.haypreub18_ESO
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    Anyone know if Power of the Light is working correctly?

    Someone is saying that it should return 130% of damage, but it is only returning 30%?
    Templars are 'just slower... by design'
    Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
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  • Cinbri
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    Anyone know if Power of the Light is working correctly?

    Someone is saying that it should return 130% of damage, but it is only returning 30%?
    Time passed but we still don't know http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/1731824#Comment_1731824
    Seems "Working as intended™"
  • nimander99
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    Soon(TM) console players will begin to notice these issues and the noise in forums will increase, then maybe we will see a fix ;)
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  • Soris
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    Sorcs will get stamina morphs, nightblades are currently rejoice on that detection pots issue. What have you got for templars? Come on now, show off us something please. Bug fixes? Little buffs here and there? Any progress so far on something?
    Anything?? Keep us entertained :D
    @ZOS_GinaBruno
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  • LaughingJack
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    Soris wrote: »
    I guess he meant "ZoS thinks giving RD to templars fixes everything" Well in fact it's not. It created bigger problem. Survivability is almost halved for that trade and also due to the some unrelated things.
    Everyone who plays no templar hates that spell and I know many templar friend including myself don't like that spell at all. I would be much more happier if that trade wasn't happened at all. I mean the last thing we need/want is another channeled/hard casted ability lol right?

    actually i think Radiant Destruction is great, 'specially for finishing off wounded enemies.

    i presume this: " I mean the last thing we need/want is another channeled/hard casted ability lol right?
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    is directed at your own friends etc., not the general public, as i imagine there are many players who would disagree.

    i just had a mate go over my bow-templar on the weekend. he swapped out a couple of abilities and suggested i work the character differently in battle.
    all of the sudden chalk turns to cheese; ive gone from doing pitiful damage and dying too easily in Vet Pledges, to now being more than viable - to the point of taking out enemies 4-5 levels above me in normal PVE.
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  • david.haypreub18_ESO
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    all of the sudden chalk turns to cheese; ive gone from doing pitiful damage and dying too easily in Vet Pledges, to now being more than viable - to the point of taking out enemies 4-5 levels above me in normal PVE.

    PvE is not the problem though.

    Templars are 'just slower... by design'
    Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
    VR 16 Templar (retired until Templars get fixed)
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  • LaughingJack
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    Oh indeedilly so! but it does give me a very good impression of what's now possible in Vet pledges ;-)
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  • PainfulFAFA
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    I get stuck (my char stops moving) with my templar and it usually happens when im using toppling charge,crit rush, puncturung sweep, crescent sweep. Mostly Aedric Spear abilities

    The only way for me to get unstuck is to /stuck, die, or when an enemy knocks me up.
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    nimander99 wrote: »
    Soon(TM) console players will begin to notice these issues and the noise in forums will increase, then maybe we will see a fix ;)
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  • Cinbri
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    Replaced Spear Shards by Reflective Light for increasing aoe dps and crit and guess what?
    If target reflecting RL back on you, it may cause instant snare bug for you, while only relog or death will remove it.... Thx to Altaris I for helping me to realise it.
    Why am i not surprised.
    Edited by Cinbri on June 22, 2015 9:56AM
  • Kas
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    I get stuck (my char stops moving) with my templar and it usually happens when im using toppling charge,crit rush, puncturung sweep, crescent sweep. Mostly Aedric Spear abilities

    The only way for me to get unstuck is to /stuck, die, or when an enemy knocks me up.

    this is actually n ot a templar specific bug and happens with all charge skills and all chars.
    there is an insane but useful workaround:

    open the crown shop, select a mount and preview it. then use the mouse to turn the horse. close the crown shop.
    voilà, you can move again.
    please link to this thred when other classes have the same problem. more people need to know about the templar sturggle :D
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  • Cinbri
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    twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/v/6357753?t=1h10m05s We will see how they listened forum feedback.
    Edited by Cinbri on June 23, 2015 7:36AM
  • Joy_Division
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    Please use the "ask us anything" sticky thread under the General Discussion section so that hopefully we can get some answers from the horse's mouth as Eric Wrobel will be on the Next episode of ESO Live.
  • NadiusMaximus
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    They don't read any of this. Mods only read ones that are flagged in the system for violations.
  • Rhakon
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    Soris wrote: »
    I'm hoping to see from this next patch, a true fix for those obvious bugs and some buffs for our defensive skills, most importantly the shield and aura. And ofc a complete rework to that stupid healing ritual and maybe jabs to make it instant instead of channel.
    I still have a hope :D

    this would be the minimum templars need.

    in other posts about abilitys and probs answers from devs come much faster then for templar issues, i hope this is a good sign, maybe they can ignore us because there are already some fixes and changes for ur class in work.
    an update would be nice. @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • BugCollector
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    When, Zenimax? When?
    May knowledge guide you to enlightenment
  • Cinbri
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    When, Zenimax? When?
    They answered on last ESO Live: "Soon™"
  • BugCollector
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Can we have an ETA on these fixes/buffs?
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  • Francescolg
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    Guys, wake up!
    Nothing will be done for the Templar. They'll do very minuscule minor tweaking for other classes, Sorcerer Blink/Port, as well as Nirnh., etc. BUT there is not one official statement, not even a connotation, which expresses that there is a problem..They do not recognize any problems and they are not analyzing the player data (what is a player's main class? // how many Templars do PvP? // How many players are not earning enough CP because they play the game how they like it to play // Casual-PvP CP earning?? // etc. etc...these are all minor, not-so-interesting questions for them!).
    Spare your time and do something productive, or learn to life with the current state of the game. If you want the old (defensive) Blazing Shield back, play a sorcerer. If you want to do damage with your Templar, do either the "double empower buff"-spec combined with magicka-setup, or start saving money to buy the necessary +weapon damage equipment (500k+), or do whatever you like to do. But do not spend even a thought on any consistent BUFF for Templars, don't be optimistic, do not be disappointed!

    /edit Best thing to do atm, in my opinion, is to farm mobs/undead/dogs in the VR 10 area. Get a +50% CP potion and do that ALL day long until the patch. This way you get CP ;-)
    Edited by Francescolg on June 30, 2015 5:40PM
  • Rhakon
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    Lets hope we get some attention tomorrow.

    Here you can ask questions for Eric Wrobel.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/188859/eso-live-july-2nd-questions-for-lead-combat-designer-eric-wrobel/p3
  • BugCollector
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom When can we expect these changes/ buffs?
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  • technohic
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom When can we expect these changes/ buffs?

    I doubt she will respond but I would say your best bet is to watch Eric Wroebel there on ESO live today.
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