ESO Needs an Auction Horse (Expanded Concept)

Gidorick

Streega wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Bartering Mule instead of Auction Horse?

Nay, I vote for Auction Horse. Would be fun to chase him every third day through entire province
Bartering sounds too complicated for me. Keep it simple.

Lol. It would function the same way, just be named differently. Chasing the horse around does sound pretty fun, Doesn't it?

I was thinking about this: here. Little too complicated for me, but maybe I'm a dummy
I like the idea with the tribute for Clavicus Vile from guilds - that could be an easy way to put the guild items on auction, without playing the hide an seek with the Horse But only for guilds, for a hefty monthly? tribute - and without the "bartering" part (unnecessary, IMHO).

lol. You know I was so wrapped up in the name and trying to fit s bartering/auction system into this I never considered cutting that part out and just have the Auction Horse be a "multi-guild store vendor"... hmm... I'll have to mull that over. At first thought I would be asking the question: "if it just offers the straight for-purchase items then why offer this option at all?" I guess to have a MUCH broader selection of items to choose from.... thanks for the thoughts.

Ysne58

I still prefer a pack guar instead of a horse.

Gidorick

Ysne58 wrote: »

I still prefer a pack guar instead of a horse.

That WOULD make sense in the context of guar being pack animals in Elder Scrolls... and as far as I know a mules doesn't exist in Tamriel at all, even though there is reference to "pack mules". As far as we know a Guar could be called a "Pack Mule"

Necrelios

Xendyn wrote: »

*chuckles
Need to feed that poor horse there.
Kind of a cool idea, but you know people will complain that they have to Look for the horse, cause you know...it would actually take effort to do that.

By effort I assume you mean VIRTUAL effort. But yeah, very much agreed ;p

Gidorick

Necrelios wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

*chuckles
Need to feed that poor horse there.
Kind of a cool idea, but you know people will complain that they have to Look for the horse, cause you know...it would actually take effort to do that.

By effort I assume you mean VIRTUAL effort. But yeah, very much agreed ;p

lol. you both are right. people would complain but I hate the "handed to" mechanic in most games... Let 'em complain I say.

ZOS could even sell packs of 10 "Chaff Treats" for 200C in the Crown store. Players would have to feed the Horse the Chaff to gain its favor and be allowed to access the store.

Necrelios

Gidorick wrote: »

Krayor wrote: »

This would only be acceptable if players were given a special stick to beat the horse to death.

that's a completely separate idea where dead horses are positioned around Tamriel to act as Targeting dummies.

YESSSSSSS! Because so many have cried for targeting dummies, this one gets it

Gidorick

Necrelios wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Krayor wrote: »

This would only be acceptable if players were given a special stick to beat the horse to death.

that's a completely separate idea where dead horses are positioned around Tamriel to act as Targeting dummies.

YESSSSSSS! Because so many have cried for targeting dummies, this one gets it

Dead horses for Target Dummies... Auction Horses... there's no reason we cant have a bit of practical levity in ESO!

Necrelios

At this point it just makes far too much sense to ignore. It's a really simple thing to add a merchant NPC to a game that wanders on a timed path. The humor benefit alone would be totally worth it!

Maybe they should add both, in case you miss the Auction Horse, you might get stuck having to deal with the grumpy and stubborn Barter Mule. He's not a nice guy, but he knows a deal when he sees one!

"Hey everybody, it's the auction h.... oh darn, it's just the barter mule. Oh well I would hate to have to wayshrine to the next zone, this donkey will do. That will do donkey, that will do...."

Gidorick

Necrelios wrote: »

At this point it just makes far too much sense to ignore. It's a really simple thing to add a merchant NPC to a game that wanders on a timed path. The humor benefit alone would be totally worth it!

Maybe they should add both, in case you miss the Auction Horse, you might get stuck having to deal with the grumpy and stubborn Barter Mule. He's not a nice guy, but he knows a deal when he sees one!

"Hey everybody, it's the auction h.... oh darn, it's just the barter mule. Oh well I would hate to have to wayshrine to the next zone, this donkey will do. That will do donkey, that will do...."

LOL... that would be pretty funny. Especially if the Barter Mule somehow screwed you on all the deals.. not a lot... but a little.

Streega

Gidorick wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Bartering Mule instead of Auction Horse?

Nay, I vote for Auction Horse. Would be fun to chase him every third day through entire province
Bartering sounds too complicated for me. Keep it simple.

Lol. It would function the same way, just be named differently. Chasing the horse around does sound pretty fun, Doesn't it?

I was thinking about this: here. Little too complicated for me, but maybe I'm a dummy
I like the idea with the tribute for Clavicus Vile from guilds - that could be an easy way to put the guild items on auction, without playing the hide an seek with the Horse But only for guilds, for a hefty monthly? tribute - and without the "bartering" part (unnecessary, IMHO).

[...] ...just have the Auction Horse be a "multi-guild store vendor"... hmm... I'll have to mull that over. At first thought I would be asking the question: "if it just offers the straight for-purchase items then why offer this option at all?" I guess to have a MUCH broader selection of items to choose from.... thanks for the thoughts.

Not only as a multi-guild store vendor. Everybody can acces The Horse (or Mule) individually and without a fee, but you have to find an catch him Only the guilds can do it without moving from a comfy armchair in the guild headquater (but they have to pay the tribute).
Anyway, I like the bartering stuff in general, but I'm afraid that would be difficult to apply into the game (not impossible, just not easy and we would have to wait a looong time for devs to do it), and time-consuming for the users. That's why I think it's best to keep it simple, only to speed up the process.
In summary: there is a happy horsie or grumpy mule traveling through the Tamriel, every day in a different province; you can catch it and put your stuff on auction, or put it in the guild store and pay Clavicus the Vile to teleport it

Gidorick

I agree that there should be no fee to access the horse when a player catches it. I don't think anyone else should have the scope of the horse in any other way. The idea of the bartering was mostly to split the inventory of the guild stores in such a way that players would still have the need to visit guild traders. If everything was available through the auction horse, why even bother with traders?

it would be import to not cannibalize the guild traders with this. It's for this reason adding to the auction horse shouldn't be allowed. Require players to go through a guild to have items available in the auction horse.

There would also have to be a system in place to prevent guilds from marking all their items barter items. Perhaps each guild member is only permitted a limited number of bartering slots, like 5 or so.

If there were TWO of these things I would think the horse should have gear and be really pristine and beautiful and the mule should have mats and be dirty and gritty.

Novesette

Very nice, creative idea. Not sure how it would work in practice but it's pretty cool concept-wise.

Gidorick

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Donum-Dei

Streega wrote: »

Not only as a multi-guild store vendor. Everybody can acces The Horse (or Mule) individually and without a fee

Why would cost for use the auction horse will be a thing?

Gidorick

DanniBoi wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

Not only as a multi-guild store vendor. Everybody can acces The Horse (or Mule) individually and without a fee

Why would cost for use the auction horse will be a thing?

I suggested the idea that we would need Chaff (feed) that's bought from the crown store to access the Auction Horse. Bad idea. ... I know. I was just spit balling.

dafox187

Roechacca wrote: »

SHUT AND TAKE MY CROWNS

dafox187

Xendyn wrote: »

*chuckles
Need to feed that poor horse there.
Kind of a cool idea, but you know people will complain that they have to Look for the horse, cause you know...it would actually take effort to do that.

but someone would instantly make a horse tracker addon

Gidorick

dafox187 wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

*chuckles
Need to feed that poor horse there.
Kind of a cool idea, but you know people will complain that they have to Look for the horse, cause you know...it would actually take effort to do that.

but someone would instantly make a horse tracker addon

Hehe heh. Thru totally would too.

Tandor

Krayor wrote: »

This would only be acceptable if players were given a special stick to beat the horse to death.

Isn't the whole point that we already have that on the forums? We don't need it in-game as well.

Although, as it happens, and for the record, I am 100% in favour of an auction house !

However, in the context of this topic, does the OP have any suggestions as to what would be the consequences of the Auction Horse occasionally (and I would suggest randomly) lifting its tail?

Gidorick

Tandor wrote: »

Krayor wrote: »

This would only be acceptable if players were given a special stick to beat the horse to death.

Isn't the whole point that we already have that on the forums? We don't need it in-game as well.

Although, as it happens, and for the record, I am 100% in favour of an auction house !

However, in the context of this topic, does the OP have any suggestions as to what would be the consequences of the Auction Horse occasionally (and I would suggest randomly) lifting its tail?

lol. lifting it's tail? It should drop "nuggets" with gold coins in them! lol. eww...

Artheiron

Loved the idea. Also trading faction spesific items with the other factions would be so epic.

Anoteros

First an Auction House then the horse.

Gidorick

Anoteros wrote: »

First an Auction House then the horse.

No, no. JUST the horse. An auction house makes no sense in the context of the Elder Scrolls.

Dovah_Konahrik

"According to the calculations of the sages of the Cult of the Ancestor Moth, the bantam guar is the cutest creature in all Tamriel." + auction mount = ADORABLE AUCTIONESS.

What if there were different auction mounts...
Like an auction guar, an auction senche tiger, and auction mudcrab... Each in the different provinces! (i.e, Skyrim: maybe an auction mudcrab that has a route from Eastmarch to the Rift and back again)

Gidorick

Dovah_Konahrik wrote: »

"According to the calculations of the sages of the Cult of the Ancestor Moth, the bantam guar is the cutest creature in all Tamriel." + auction mount = ADORABLE AUCTIONESS.

What if there were different auction mounts...
Like an auction guar, an auction senche tiger, and auction mudcrab... Each in the different provinces! (i.e, Skyrim: maybe an auction mudcrab that has a route from Eastmarch to the Rift and back again)

Well, having multiple Auction Mounts would go against some of the principles of the concept. Part of the concept is that it's not easily accessible. Having different mounts hanging around different provinces wouldn't really be in keeping with this idea.

If you mean that the mount CHANGE depending on the province it's in, I think that could work! Still have it only be in one province per day but have it be a Camel in the Alik'r, a Wamasu in Eldenroot, and a Guar in Stonefalls. That could work and would make sense with the concept of the Auction Mount being elusive. Of course, that would mean multiple models would have to be created... and we would loose the pun of "Auction Horse" sounding like "Auction House". I personally love the idea of the Bartering Mule or the Jobber Guar but that play on the word "Auction House" is just too rich.... hehe.

I actually have another suggestion you may like. It involves a Mudcrab Merchant, a Creeper Fance and a Goblin Banker... http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/149698/summonable-beast-merchants-and-banker

AzraelKrieg

I think this is a fantastic idea but I do have some suggestions. Instead of having one auction horse travel around Tamriel or having a horse in each zone, have three horse roaming, one for each faction. The zone it goes to is random so one day it's in Eastmarch the next day Deshaan, The Rift the day after then back to Eastmarch to throw people off.

Also, as much as I like the vendors as they are with them being accessible to any guild from any any faction to bid on, I think the horse should have a limitation on it. The DC faction horse should only carry wares from guilds that have been set to DC specifically. The horses represent a larger in game trading faction such as the Dragonstar Caravan Company or the Gold Coast Traders, each have a "trading headquarters" in each faction that can't be accessed and they have a list of all the guilds created in game based in those factions. An example would be my guild Gold Dragons being EP based would only appear on the EP faction Auction Horse.

And also one more suggestion. Having the horse stop in towns and being inaccessible to players for a period time is a good idea but why not have it stop randomly on the road and still have it accessible as well? Maybe the cart it pulls breaks down or one of the bags falls off and the person travelling with it has to stop and fix it on the road. This will stop a large snowball of people just following the poor thing around through the map.

Just some thoughts on it. Obviously someone would eventually make an addon to track it like what was mentioned earlier but having it track an object in constant motion would be hard to program so the "breakdown" spots would help and since the zone it travels would be random, all they could do is program where those spots are and not where the horse is.

Razzak

I think a simple "search all" option, where you can search all kiosks at once, would improve the experience of trading for many players. You would still have to travel to particular kiosk to buy, but you wouldn't have to spend hours of travelling in order to do so.

SteveCampsOut

Gidorick wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

ZoS you might as well give it to them. You have done everything else for these people so go for it.

Woo hoo! Auction Horse here we come! I wonder what they will name the horse... something clever like... "Steve" I hope.

No, It's got to be Dave so I can say to people in zone chat, "Dave's not here Man!" and "I can't do that Dave!"

Davadin

i'll be honest, i didnt read anything but the OP.

my thoughts
1. No moving horses. Coz i'm assuming this horse must be instanced to each player. meaning, if one player stops it, then another, then another... the horse won't be moving at all! or if it's truly 100% instanced, then its possible for 1 player to see it just outside davon's watch, while others see it half way across Stonefall! And other bugs like that. I'd rather have a stationary horse. Stay there ONE (tamriel) day in all major (and medium) cities. Randomly. But no... walking trek.
2. One horse per Alliance zones please. Not one per all of Tamriel. Remember the non-vet people who may have limited access? And trekking from.... yeah. No, just no. UNLESS ESO gets a GLOBAL zone chat (dear God no), then MAYBE I can consider it. or else it'll be too hard to find the damn ***. Make it one per Alliance to roam around, BUT BUT BUT their content is always the same. So, "story-wise" there's only 1 horse. But one instance per alliance.

Heromofo

Lets just cut out all the fat and just go with auction houses like wow.


Before i lose my mind......